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How to be a better pooner... what works for YOU?

tantalizeme

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The number of bad reviews of lower-end SPs may not prove that others give better service… but they certainly show quite a few pooners are walking away moderately, or even severely, disenchanted.

Looking back on less than effervescent sessions I’ve had, I ask myself: what could I have done better? When I read complaint-filled reviews, it’s always with an eye to detecting what I might do differently in the same situation.

Well, here’re a few “pooning guidelines” I’ve set myself (apart from the obvious: don’t look scruffy, smell clean, have cash ready, etc.) I’m a bit hesitant to share this because pooning styles are so highly individual— there’s no suggestion here that the same recipe works for everyone.

1. Let enough time pass after each encounter. As a friend recently said, “If you do it too often, you’ll enjoy it less.” Give my motivation a chance to recharge, so my emotions can focus on a new person with appreciation for the gift of her uniqueness. And hold expectations lightly—except to believe she sincerely WANTS to do a good job.

2. Warm her up first. Invest some time breaking the ice, to defuse fears she may have and get her in a more relaxed, trusting mood. For me, too, a bit of human rapport is important to unlock the flow of libidinal energy. Spend the first 10 minutes or so on friendly chitchat, perhaps a little dancing and singing, and only very gentle touching with a slow hand. I like stockings; I let her choose between brown and black ones (they always pick the black). I also bring my own CD player with my favorite soft music to sing along to.

3. Take charge of the session. After the warm-up phase be strongly directive, take initiative to move the session along, channel her efforts—though of course without forcing anything.

What I’ve noticed is that sometimes—actually quite often—a reviewer describes buying passively into an SPs routine, “…and then, after 15 minutes of lame massage, she flips me over, does 5 minutes of this, another 5 boring minutes of that, and it all felt very mechanical.”

Surely a pooner needs to take responsibility for steering an SP toward what turns him on (except on visits to a dominatrix). Sex generally is about one person dominating, the other yielding; generally, the spark of erotic energy will be stronger, for evolutionary reasons, if the male does the dominating, the woman the yielding. I feel women generally—and that goes for SPs too—like a guy more who shows some hardnosed determination to go after what he wants, rather than a compliant wax-in-their-hands softy who is passive or wants most of all to please them.

4. Make this an experience about boosting HER self-esteem. Think affectionate thoughts and express warm feelings for the lady you’re with, regardless of looks (or cocksucking expertise)—even if she doesn’t fit any stereoptype of near-perfection. Focus on what’s nice about her appearance and service, and ignore imperfections as much as possible. I’d like her to come away from this experience with her self-esteem strengthened, her mood buoyed by the thought: “He really enjoyed me—I must be a desirable woman.” I think a man’s obvious enjoyment of her sexual allure brings out the best in most women.

These guidelines seem to stand me in good stead. Maybe nothing works with some SPs who’re jaded, distancing, unreasonably safety-obsessed—but for me, they seem to work with those whose hearts are open to men, and whose motives are the right mix of goodwill, insecurity, sexual aliveness and sufficient money-mindedness to want me to come back.

But clearly I've a lot to learn, and I'm open to ideas.
 

Extreme April

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Hmmmmm This is good advice but not for me.....

First off this is just my two cents worth and what I like.

I like frequent visits. I think the sessions get better with each visit. At least I relax more and can suggest more kinkier things to do the next time.

I am a shy girl and if I am first with someone....I feel a little weird when I am touched right off the bat. I want to do the touching. That is why I always insist on the massage the first time I am with someone new. Cause i am nervous and shy. Cause half way through it...then I am getting over the nervousness and I then can be touched by the client without tensing up.

The client taking charge of the session....not in my sessions. Sorry I find it very intimidating if I am not the one in control during our first session. Again, I have no probs handing over the reins to my client AFTER we have had that initial first session.

Sorry for sounding like a bitch but honestly.....these ground rules is what makes me comfortable with first time clients...I need to bring down my natural guard but that would only happen with me taking those controlled steps.

love and laughs
April
 

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First off this is just my two cents worth and what I like.

I like frequent visits. I think the sessions get better with each visit. At least I relax more and can suggest more kinkier things to do the next time.

I am a shy girl and if I am first with someone....I feel a little weird when I am touched right off the bat. I want to do the touching. That is why I always insist on the massage the first time I am with someone new. Cause i am nervous and shy. Cause half way through it...then I am getting over the nervousness and I then can be touched by the client without tensing up.

The client taking charge of the session....not in my sessions. Sorry I find it very intimidating if I am not the one in control during our first session. Again, I have no probs handing over the reins to my client AFTER we have had that initial first session.

Sorry for sounding like a bitch but honestly.....these ground rules is what makes me comfortable with first time clients...I need to bring down my natural guard but that would only happen with me taking those controlled steps.

love and laughs
April
That was you being a bitch??? Really??? Then you my dear are truly a saint ;)
 

Dr.Weedsmoker

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Just kind of curious because i guess i am entirely missing the point of this thread but if i am "paying" an SP for time and services provided , wouldnt it be fair to say that the SP "should" have a basic routine in place to make sure "her" client is having a good time? I mean all the power to you, if you can get pleasure out of it as well as getting paid great but i am guessing (myself included) the reason men seek the company of an SP its because they either dont have the confidence to pick up ladies at the bar, or many other self concious reasons.


I know if i hire a lawyer or a realtor or a doctor i am not going to tell them what to do.........its already implied that they take control.


Peace
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DQ Guy

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1. Let enough time pass after each encounter. As a friend recently said, “If you do it too often, you’ll enjoy it less.” Give my motivation a chance to recharge, so my emotions can focus on a new person with appreciation for the gift of her uniqueness. And hold expectations lightly—except to believe she sincerely WANTS to do a good job.
WHAT?!!!!:eek:
Whats wrong with you???
The more I poon the better it gets.:D :cool:
 

Dr.Weedsmoker

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Guess again. Not all pooners are poindexters. Not to mention that sexual intimacy is usually better for the paying customer when the paid provider enjoys herself.

Well call me a weirdo but anyone who is not an SP that has over 500 post on an escort review board IS a weirdo or a poindexter or a hack and has issues..............i run under one of the three but im not telling which one!
 

Katlyn

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Too lazy to quote people or go back to see who said what...

I agree an SP should have a basic routine in place. Something that works for most of her clients. A lot of clients are shell shocked on their first visit, totally nervous and if we don't have a routine in place then the session has no direction. BUT if the routine is not doing it for you, it is your responsibility to let us know. It is very difficult to distinguish between the shell shocked client and the bored client and us constantly asking "is this alright" will breed insecurity in us and bother the client. Don't be afraid to speak up, we WANT you to have a good time.

And I'm with the girls, I have had a couple clients who are obviously experienced pooners and took control from the get go and it really threw me off. There is no way they got as good service as my other clients because I was no longer confident about what I was doing or what my next step would be. Please anyone reading this, if you want the best session you can have with me let me lead but speak up if you want me to deviate from my normal routine. If you like to be in control, do it passively by reading MY body language and not only focusing on yourself.

After I've seen a client once things are different. I'm comfortable with their energy and I will let loose and let them be a dominating, even sexually aggressive male, but when a client takes control from the start and it is our first sexual session (ie not just massage), my red flags go up and I have to hold back and be very cautious of his moves because I don't know this guy. Is he going to get dangerous or is he going to get too rough if I give myself completely to him? You guys can be pretty scary when you are lost in the moment. This is what a lot of women consider REALLY HOT (myself included) because masculine energy is exciting, as the OP noted, but not with a stranger. With a stranger it is scary.


oh and p.s. I see a lot of clients who just have not found that special one yet because this is a tough city for that but are tired of one night stands that suck in bed. Not everyone sees SPs because they are self concious :)
 

DQ Guy

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I totally get why he suggests to space out sessions..
This gentleman is one of the most sincere, intensely present and passionate clients I've ever had. He's a great sex partner invested in having great sex and making it a special event. If you tried to make every event that special and have them often, the intensity of that passion would surely diffuse.
If you're not too hungry and just want popcorn or a quick snack, I'm sure pooning more often is great, but when you're craving a thick juicy steak, you should let your hunger build up some, don't you think?
xoxoNina
Now you can't compair Pooning to Eating, But If I did. I would love to have Steak Every night.And I know That I would enjoy the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th one just as much as the first one.
Every event Is special and thats why I'd like to have as many as Possible before I die. and I can afford to as well.
Just because I might go 2.3 or 4 times a week doesn't make the sessions less then perfect.. E
ach visit is just as good as the last. if not better if its the same gal.

Well call me a weirdo but anyone who is not an SP that has over 500 post on an escort review board IS a weirdo or a poindexter or a hack and has issues..............i run under one of the three but im not telling which one!
HEY:eek:
I just like to help out fellow pooners with reviews and My opinion:rolleyes:
ok maybe I'm a little strange:p
 

DQ Guy

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Ok I'll agree with you there on that. Sometimes its nice to have a little time off.
but It may be different for a pooner compared to an SP.
I have to option of not going if I don't feel like it where an SP may have an Appointment, that even If shes not 100% into it, shes still there giving her all.
so In that comparison its a little easier for me to get out more often.
But My main problem.. maybe I'm hitting my peak (clock is ticking so to speak)
I do truly enjoy the art of Sex almost all the time. hell I'm addicted if you care to say that. but in a good way. and they do say practice makes perfect
and I have a ways to go to be perfect:D
 

MrPeterNorth

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Oh - I thought this was going to be a thread about working out, dressing well, drinking pineapple juice and... :D

oh and p.s. I see a lot of clients who just have not found that special one yet because this is a tough city for that but are tired of one night stands that suck in bed. Not everyone sees SPs because they are self concious
- EXACTLY. :)
 

memyselfandI

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Interesting to hear from the ladies who don't like the client taking control. I understand the reasons better know, so thanks to the ladies that put that down. I'm a 'take control' kind of guy in the sack, and I like to do things my way in my time. Clothes go off when I want them to, we do oral when I want to, etc....But I hear what those ladies are saying.

Now, having said that, the BEST SEX I'VE EVER HAD was with an SP where after 20 minutes of chatting and hugging and a little kissing, I just grabbed her and ravished her, threw her all around the bedroom with overwhelming passion and power, and it seemed to work on her! But, having said that, we had had lots and lots of email back and forth before our session, and were very similar people, so that is hardly representitive....
 

Katlyn

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Now, having said that, the BEST SEX I'VE EVER HAD was with an SP where after 20 minutes of chatting and hugging and a little kissing, I just grabbed her and ravished her, threw her all around the bedroom with overwhelming passion and power, and it seemed to work on her! But, having said that, we had had lots and lots of email back and forth before our session, and were very similar people, so that is hardly representitive....
If the mood is right then yah it is great! That is why I say it is best to do things passively...read her signals and go forward only if you're getting the vibe...if you do get that vibe then it will be amazing, which is what it sounds like happened :) But for a lot of girls if the natural compatibility isn't there from the first moment the session will not be as good as it could if the guy just takes control. She'll feel pushed around and like she is being used in a forcible way, versus horny and into it (like the sp you talk of). I have had a couple clients that it was fine from the first moment and we were able to get into it as you and that sp did and I was comfortable giving up control but that is not as common because a lot of men are nervous or unsure and are not totally themselves the first appointment either. I find, just like regular relationships, the sex in a client-sp relationship just gets better and better as she learns what you like and trusts you enough to loose herself to you :D

Repeating and building a cline-sp relationship is where you start seeing the difference between being provided with a "service" and truly just having a good time.
 

tantalizeme

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Timid vs. assertive pooners

In terms of pooning styles—and general attitudes toward life—probably a key difference is between those who go for what they want and those who prefer to follow the initiative of others.

How directive, assertive or dominant should a pooner be with a given SP? An important question, whose answer depends on many factors. I thank Extreme April, Katlyn & Beautiful Anna for setting me straight. Also thanks to ty8 and Sexy Nina Leone for sharing their helpful perspective.

With Indys working alone, yes—don't come on strong on your first visit. Make her feel safe and familiar and comfortable with you. Generally, unless there's spontaneous rapport, reserve taking charge for repeat visits.

In theory, a pooner “taking charge” may sound a little scary; in practice, when you see a smiley, totally non-intimidating guy with a kid-in-a-candy-store attitude like myself, it's not really much of an issue. If an SP has lots of zappy ideas about how to turn me on, of course I’m happy to lie back and lazily coast along for a while.

But I see a difference between Indys & AMP/micro girls. The high-end Indys here are likely to be superbly intuitive practitioners of their craft for whom a man’s sexuality is an open book—whereas most of those young “students” or “visitors” working in micros/AMPs seem less corrupted by such knowledge.

In those places, if you don’t want a boring time, you’d better get directive as soon as you notice the girl being at a loss as to how to turn you on. I was quite passive myself when I started pooning—thinking my job was to plunk down the cash, her job was to pleasure me.

I still remember my anger building up when an SP gave me a 30-min massage before proceeding to anything more intimate. The reality is, a passive attitude in an AMP/micro will often get you shoddy service in the form of a mechanical routine. And the worst is, because the SP feels you’re not happy with her, she's not happy with you—her sense of insecurity about how to pleasure you, if allowed to persist unguided, creates frustration and annoyance in her.

I also believe Asian women tend to be attracted to Western men partly because they associate power with us: they want to give us pleasure, but are often unsure exactly how, and they want us to take the initiative. For them, unlike for Indys working alone, safety isn’t a worry because papasan or mamasan is just a piercing scream away, in case things get out of hand.

Well...an avalanche of suggestions for helping each other improve our pooning skills hasn't materialized—I guess most fellow pooners think there’s no improvement needed, or perhaps they just want to hold on to their amazing secrets?:)
 

Katlyn

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If a client tells me that's what they'd like, beforehand and have good references, then no problemo. It's hot as hell!
agreed :D

but when sweet smiley and soft spoken timmy gets a wild look in his eye and changes character completely and out of the blue with me naked and pinned under him and without me having any idea it's going to happen...not as hot ;)

I enjoy when sessions lead to this but it is best when they build up to it.

How directive, assertive or dominant should a pooner be with a given SP?
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I was quite passive myself when I started pooning—thinking my job was to plunk down the cash, her job was to pleasure me.
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And the worst is, because the SP feels you’re not happy with her, she's not happy with you—her sense of insecurity about how to pleasure you, if allowed to persist unguided, creates frustration and annoyance in her.
I think you have to feel things out, but definitely letting a woman know before hand as Anna has suggested is a good idea but also try little passive things to get clues. Flip her over to missionary, gently but with a teeensy bit of force and see if she gets more into it or less...if you think she's gotten more into it maybe try holding one wrist above her head and see if she likes that. Just don't jump right in from the start, build up to it :) And remember even if it wasn't a go the first time doesn't mean it won't be a go the next time. Communication is key! :)

The clients that just lay there are really really hard to deal with. You can't read them as well and then it is like the last point you made: he's not having as great a time as he can (or maybe he is but he's not showing it) so the sp can start to feel insecure and you are exactly right. That insecurity breeds frustration and annoyance, both in herself for not doing a good job and in her towards you for not showing her you're having a good time.

So to answer your question, how to have a better pooning experience? I know this is a word men loathe but COMMUNICATE. It doesn't have to be verbal, if you're good with your facial expressions or your body language use that, but definitely share how you are feeling and if there are ways she can do a better job. AND listen to HER non-verbal clues. If you can both read each other you are going to have a WILD time :) And #3, find an sp or two (or three) that you like and repeat with them. Sex gets better and better and better the more you learn and explore another's body!!
 

AA_Train

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As a man when with a woman, SP or otherwise, you need to take your cues from her. Sex is about letting you're woman's beauty and femininity shine through. That doesn't mean she or you should be aggressive or passive, just comfortable. The more comfortable you both are, themore likely this will happen. Women are like the sea. We can't control it, but if you're savvy enough you can ride the waves to get to where you want to go.
 

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Well call me a weirdo but anyone who is not an SP that has over 500 post on an escort review board IS a weirdo or a poindexter or a hack and has issues..............i run under one of the three but im not telling which one!
couldn't agree more...

people who buy sex for money have issues...

and people who sell sex for money have issues...
 

Extreme April

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People who drink to excess have issues
People who drive too fast have issues
People who have casual sex have issues
People who eat too much have issues
People who don't exercise enough have issues
People who watch too much tv have issues
and the list goes on and on and on

How many people do you know who don't?
Hear Hear

I dont know a single person on this planet of ours, that DOESNT have issues.

What is the definition of "Normal".....none of us are. Thats what makes this world of ours....such an interesting place to live.

Everyone has issues...just how bad, big, or the amount...is what makes us all different.

love and laughs
April
 

SeekSteadyRegSP

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The number of bad reviews of lower-end SPs...

... is perhaps as much a product of the fact that there are far more "lower-end SP's" than there are "higher-end SP's". And of course the economics at each level contributes to the difference as well.

In broader, world-wide terms, where one person might see racism, there may actually be nothing other than economic discrimination.
 

xoxo Amie

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well, i prefer that my guys follow my lead...
I love to be the hostess with the mostess
and having a guy try to take control, always throws me way off :mad:
and ruins the whole
"Lolita corrupts sweet innocent boy" fantasy :D
i have going on in my head... :p

but that's just me:)
 

Thais

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I guess it's best if you ask the lady in question before hand what she enjoys more: leading or following.

Most of the replies suggest the former. It also makes sense from the safety view point. However, to me personally one of the most erotic things ever is the man who can passionately and firmly take control, and act as a strong and dominant male.

We are all different so don't assume: communicate.
 
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