Asian Fever

How to ask her to shave

Pussy-hair preferences

  • Shaved is a must; otherwise forget DATY!

    Votes: 13 17.6%
  • I prefer shaved

    Votes: 24 32.4%
  • I prefer trimmed

    Votes: 22 29.7%
  • I prefer natural

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • Natural is a must; I hate the “plucked-chicken look”!

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Shaved, trimmed or natural—it's all good, as long as it’s pussy

    Votes: 12 16.2%

  • Total voters
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violetblake

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Seriously?!
This whole thread is making me cringe. Violet, I'm actually surprised that you are somewhat encouraging the OP to continue on his "quest"... Even in a nicer way so as not to offend anyone.... But damn. Saying something like "Just curious, why do you like your bush" has undertones of passive aggression imo.
I would certainly not appreciate a client, not a boyfriend or husband even, but a client, suggesting I change something as intimate as my pubic hair... And to offer such a thing as to shave my pubes on my menu no less? No way. I don't care how confident you think you are.
If YOU prefer a shaved pussy, seek out girls who are shaved... This is one of the true beauties of this "business" after all... There is someone for everyone!
I basically agree. But he's planning to do this either way so I thought I'd give him some useful advice so as not to totally scare these girls. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with a client nicely making a request, because I can always nicely refuse the request if I'm not into it. If they're rude however (or pushy, or bring a razor with them!), I just won't see them. I don't condone the approach Tant is taking, which is why I was trying to give him advice, and I was trying to be nice about it. I understand if it comes across ridiculous cause frankly you're right this entire thread is pretty ridiculous lol.
 

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I basically agree. But he's planning to do this either way so I thought I'd give him some useful advice so as not to totally scare these girls. There isn't necessarily anything wrong with a client nicely making a request, because I can always nicely refuse the request if I'm not into it. If they're rude however (or pushy, or bring a razor with them!), I just won't see them. I don't condone the approach Tant is taking, which is why I was trying to give him advice, and I was trying to be nice about it. I understand if it comes across ridiculous cause frankly you're right this entire thread is pretty ridiculous lol.
Yes that makes sense lol Ugh.
 

Pillowtalk

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I can't see tant wanting to pay extra for doing this, nor to make up her lost income because he has done this. He's already about as low as you can go without the sp's paying him to show up (or go away, whichever way you want to look at it).

In a world where clients have been known to bite down hard enough in daty to draw blood, I can't see anyone (especially with a language barrier) being OK with this. The idea that one of these poor asian sps may not feel she has any option to say no to a client for fear of not being 'cooperative enough', is really disturbing. The fact that tant's predilictions are escalating way out of porportion to what this business can accomodate is even more disturbing, for the illegals he sees.

Again, wow.

Tant, at least open your eyes to the sp's remarks about this in this topic. These are no doubt the exact same things going through the minds of the asian sps who you see, but they are unable to say it. Give them a break, stop micro managing these sessions. You're supposed to be there to relax, and you sure don't pay them enough to put up with you.
 

tantalizeme

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Appreciate the constructive input

Seriously?!
This whole thread is making me cringe.
I would certainly not appreciate a client, not a boyfriend or husband even, but a client, suggesting I change something as intimate as my pubic hair... And to offer such a thing as to shave my pubes on my menu no less? No way.
I don't condone the approach Tant is taking, which is why I was trying to give him advice, and I was trying to be nice about it. I understand if it comes across ridiculous cause frankly you're right this entire thread is pretty ridiculous lol.
A flaw in your plan is that if you do happen to create a small cut, she'd be more vulnerable to picking up a disease.

From my own experience - going from a full bush where the skin is cushioned and protected, to being shaved bare or even trimmed closely, leaves the whole area feeling way too sensitive to enjoy daty, intercourse or any type of friction.

You would need to be their last client of the day too because you couldn't expect them to service a full day's worth of clients after having it done. It would probably negatively impact your own session too unless you do it at the end.

I share the view that no SP should ever be forced to do anything—so I totally agree with Miss Lux that a lady's pubic hairstyle should be left to her discretion.

My point was that some SPs might choose to offer "shaving sessions," given that the prominence of shaving-pussy porn suggests there may be a market. It's precisely the fact that some women make a big taboo out of men shaving their pussies that turns this into an appealing fetish for some pooners.

Raising the issue of shaved vs. unshaved pussy—which evidently impacts many pooners' enjoyment—doesn't strike me as "ridiculous", or at least no more so than most PERB debates.

I know this isn't usually a problem with Western SPs, but anyone who follows reviews must surely realize that plenty of pooners have had their DATY momentum dampened, or even sabotaged, by an Asian girl's out-of-control bush.

As for talk about injury—like slicing through a girl's clit—I think that's largely a red herring. Letting a guy shave them with one of those new-fangled super-safety razors is a lot less risky than many things SPs routinely do. I've probably done around 1000 pussy-shavings in my life and never seriously hurt any of my SOs.

But yes, I admit: in my earlier days I caused the occasional nick. I appreciate Sarah's point: even small cuts caused by shaving (and inevitable microscopic tears) are bound to leave an SP more open to infection if shortly after she has sex with a client or a series of clients.

I also agree with Sarah that, if you go from a full bush to being shaved bare, this leaves the skin sensitive and easily irritated by any kind of friction.

Does this spell the death knell of the idea of shaving an SP?

Not necessarily, as Sarah helpfully suggests. In the case of an SP who shaves regularly, letting a client help her get rid of day-old stubble isn't going to pose much of a problem with irritation. And, if condoms are used, I don't see why normally there should be any appreciably greater risk of infection.

But, in the case of whacking off a girl's full bush, it will clearly be best if we schedule a special "shaving session" at the end of her working day or perhaps at the beginning of her "days off" during her period. The first step in doing anything new is usually the hardest, and that includes a change in pussy-grooming.

Once the full bush is off and the initial sensitivity has subsided, a girl can shave herself every 2nd night before bedtime (or every 2nd morning, long before the first client is likely to arrive).

But perhaps we should let this matter rest—at least until I can report my first "shaved her!" success story.

I also want to assure elite companions here, they have nothing to fear from me. I know better than going after them with my shaver!:)
 
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zenoofelea

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Yes, how very uncooperative of me to not want a total stranger waving a sharp metal object at me, how uncooperative to want control over my own body and not want anyone being too pushy about what they think I should change about myself. :rolleyes: lol.

You know what sweetie, for somebody who considers herself open-minded and tolerant, you sure have trouble with contrary points of view. Actually, this is a very common fetish. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean you have to be patronizing, condescending and sarcastic. Take your chip on the shoulder feminist ideology and...
 

violetblake

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You know what sweetie, for somebody who considers herself open-minded and tolerant, you sure have trouble with contrary points of view. Actually, this is a very common fetish. Just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't mean you have to be patronizing, condescending and sarcastic. Take your chip on the shoulder feminist ideology and...
*sigh* I have absolutely no issue with a guy getting turned on by shaving a girl, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about a stranger meeting a girl with a language barrier for the first time and trying to shave her...

I was sarcastic because Tant's comment was that Western women not wanting guys to shave them is "uncooperative". I don't want a stranger shaving me, not because I have a moral problem with what he's doing, but because he has a RAZOR and I don't know him! lol. To say that's uncooperative is rather offensive, that's called having control of your body. This is not extremism here, this is a simple right to have me decide whether I want a stranger with a weapon near my ladyparts lol. So yeah, if someone says having your own thoughts about what to do with your body is uncooperative, I'm going to get defensive. If this argument were turned around, and us ladies started thinking up ways to get men to shave their downstairs, would you be "cooperative"?
 

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Difference being....that is a civilian who you weren't paying for, thus a suggestion is more than appropriate. When dealing with a SP.....it's her body and she can do what she wants with it. Most Asian dudes like bush thus the lower end high volume Asian SP's keep it that way. They keep it the way the majority of their clients like it, not just trim or shave it for tant.

If tant blew the dust of his wallet and saw some $200 hr girls, I'm sure we wouldn't be having this fine discussion :nod:
Tant has seen and reviewed Caucasian women who charge 200/hr or more. He has a reference point and has obviously decided that he gets a million times far better value for his money seeking the women he seeks and the added bonus to him is that he can poon more frequently. I don't know if it is true that most Asian guys like bush. I am a bit suspicious of that comment. I wonder if that is the older generation of Asian men who prefer it that way.
 

tantalizeme

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Always a real treat to be the target of Pillowtalk's critical attention

I can't see tant wanting to pay extra for doing this, nor to make up her lost income because he has done this. He's already about as low as you can go without the sp's paying him to show up (or go away, whichever way you want to look at it).

In a world where clients have been known to bite down hard enough in daty to draw blood, I can't see anyone (especially with a language barrier) being OK with this. The idea that one of these poor asian sps may not feel she has any option to say no to a client for fear of not being 'cooperative enough', is really disturbing. The fact that tant's predilictions are escalating way out of porportion to what this business can accomodate is even more disturbing, for the illegals he sees.

Again, wow.

Tant, at least open your eyes to the sp's remarks about this in this topic. These are no doubt the exact same things going through the minds of the asian sps who you see, but they are unable to say it. Give them a break, stop micro managing these sessions. You're supposed to be there to relax, and you sure don't pay them enough to put up with you.
Hey Pillow,

You're giving me welcome food for thought. But it's hardly fair to associate me with "clients who have been known to bite down hard enough in daty to draw blood..."

Your concern for Chinese SPs is laudable, though I think you've a tendency to dress up your resentment toward these girls—for the way they've eaten into your business?—as concern for their welfare.

I've had lots of feedback from micro girls as well as from mamasans, thanking me for how well I treat these girls. Modesty prevents me from mentioning such praise in my reviews.

I don't share your view that Western SPs' remarks about the topic of letting a client shave their pussies "are no doubt the exact same things going through the minds of the asian sps who you see..." I'm not at all surprised most Western SPs wouldn't dream of letting a "stranger" shave their pussies.

But there's every reason not to extrapolate from their mindset to that of Chinese SPs. Understandably, due to lack of cross-cultural experience, you underestimate the differences between Western and Asian SPs.

The crux of the difference is that Western ladies were generally brought up in a culture of relative privilege and entitlement—whereas Chinese micro girls have almost always grown up under conditions of grinding poverty and squalor.

Notice, I'm not passing judgment on Western SPs; I admit, if I were female and had chosen be an SP, I'd more than likely be the same type of sourpuss contrarian as yourself. All too often, Western SPs make a pooner feel he has to walk on eggshells about where he's allowed to touch and what he's allowed to do.

Chinese SPs tend be humble, grateful, easy-going, forgiving and yes—"cooperative", not out of fear, but out of eagerness to please that's a deep part of their cultural identity. An elite Western companion might sneer at a $40 tip, but it goes a long way with micro girls (and sometimes even opens their backdoor or makes them amenable to ideas like pussy-shaving).

I daresay, at least one in 3 micro girls I'll politely ask to arrange a special shaving session will happily agree. I'd even bet that, of the remaining 2 girls, at least one is likely—upon receipt of my gift of a razor, shave cream and shaving oil—to shave off her bush in preparation of my promised repeat visit, a few days later.
 

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This is the problem with some guy with a half-ass understanding of Chinese culture. In traditional values, women with no pubes (shaved or natural) are known as white tiger and are considered bad luck. That's why almost all Chinese women have a bush. Maybe the OP can consider that before he asks (more like coaxes) any of them to shave. As for making shaving part of an SP's service. All I got to say is: dude, you've been watching way too much Japanese porn.
 
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Flanders

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Haters Gonna Hate, Tant. Don't let 'em bring you down.

While you certainly have a unique style of going about the hobby, your posts show a rare understanding of how to improve your chances of a stellar micro session, especially upon repeats. Most guys who frequent the micros have figured out that a little kindness, respect, and compassion goes a long way. Advice/feedback to the ladies is generally well received, and appreciated. I find it laughable that sharing cultural norms, and personal fetishes with a foreigner is seen in such a negative way by a few folks in this thread.

My personal experience is that the micro gals from Korea are rarely "natural". Maybe 60% trimmed, 25% bald, the rest natural. Chinese ladies are more like 50-10-40. The ones who have taken it all off positively beam with naughty pride when complimented on it... While I have never wielded the blade, I have had a couple ladies indulge my request to remove their 2 day old stubble. It is freaky hot to watch her carefully touch things up. Something about the contrast of dangerous (sharp razor) against vulnerable (quivering, sensitive lady bits). There is nothing in your posts that indicates you wouldn't ask in a respectful way, and honor her answer. No different than seeing if Greek is on the menu. It might not be on first meeting, but with the comfort that naturally comes with repeats, well... Heh heh

Stay the course Tant...
 
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wilde

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Haters Gonna Hate, Tant. Don't let 'em bring you down.
Yeah and lovers are going to keep sucking up...

Did I just pissed off one of his fans?
 

Flanders

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Yeah and lovers are going to keep sucking up...

Did I just pissed off one of his fans?
Nope. Why would I be pissed? I shared an opinion on an anonymous web forum. I would have to give a shit about your opinion in order to get pissed by it. Agreeing with Tant's position doesn't mean I'm sucking up to him. What would I possibly gain from that?
 

wilde

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Nope. Why would I be pissed? I shared an opinion on an anonymous web forum. I would have to give a shit about your opinion in order to get pissed by it. Agreeing with Tant's position doesn't mean I'm sucking up to him. What would I possibly gain from that?
You obviously gave a shit since you commented on it. But hey it's a free country, you are free to believe in whatever BS he keeps feeding.
 

Flanders

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You obviously gave a shit since you commented on it. But hey it's a free country, you are free to believe in whatever BS he keeps feeding.
Am i free to author a post directed to Tant without you feeling offended? I'm not trying to change your mind, Mr. Wilde, so I hope you don't feel threatened by my differing opinion. I don't need Tant to feed me anything; I have my own experiences and learnings to draw from on the topic.

You are doing a great job of demonstrating the accuracy of my 1st post, by the way. If you can't bring yourself to accept that there will be opposing points of view, you can always go the personal attack route.
 
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stevieknickers

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How come no one has mentioned that it also feels better for the chick when she has a nicely shaved pussy>? Its kind of arrogant to expect all these asian girls to succumb to pressure of our western culture only for their clients sake.Maybe they are so paranoid about having razor rash as it would likely be confused with an STI and cause her to lose business that they would rather just play it safe.
So why don't you ask nicely but also point out that it is equally beneficial to both male and female as it feels soo much better to have your kitty licked when its nice and bald ?
 

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this topic has been all over the map, but i figured I'd chime in and pop my forum cherry at the same time...

personally i like them any which way. shaved, trimmed or natural but i PREFER an nice well grown bush... i don't know why but i love to nuzzle them, rub my fingers through it and i find it a huge turn on!

Interesting thoughts about the asian SPs. I'll have to find my way to some of the ones the OP was referring to as they sound right up my alley from a hair perspective... though i'd really like to find a nice fiery red bush at the top of my list!

though I haven't been with a SP yet, i don't imagine it would go over too well to suggest they shave no matter how subtly you do it...
 

stevieknickers

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" personal attacks directed towards a fellow pooner simply for his particular proclivities"
lol wow thats a pretty strong description of what most would consider a good ole ball breaking. Personally, my thoughts on the subject are purely that, my thoughts. Your fellow pooner was requesting advice and received it from many different views.I expressed my true thoughts and it was 100% sincere. Sure it was laced with sarcasm and probably oozed arrogance on my part. But I am sure no one took it too seriously. I merely wanted to shed a different light on the topic, maybe point out something he hadn't considered.
But "attack" him? Nooo. I am a lover not a fighter. And who doesn't enjoy the back n forth of a good debate? Its fun to exercise our brains once in awhile. We aren't getting any younger after all.
To be perfectly honest, I don't care whether or not he prefers a bald puss or not and I feel he has every right to explore this fetish. I actually don't see the harm in asking someone shave their junk.You won't ever get want you want if you don't try to obtain it. It just goes without saying, you will catch more bees with honey then you will with vinegar.
 

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I like at least some pussy hair myself. I have only grudgingly and gradually accepted the bald look. And, I prefer a full bush that is neatly trimmed to the partly shaven, partly natural treatment or a landing strip.

But, those are just my preferences as a client. I would never have the gall to suggest to an SP that she shave her pussy (if hairy) or let it grow out (if shaven). It's her body and I have no right whatsoever to tell her what to do with it. If I don't like it, I have the option of not repeating. Just keep that pussy fresh and clean, and I'm happy.

I really don't get the shaving fetish either, but my previous comments cover that anyway.
 

Pillowtalk

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Hey Pillow,

You're giving me welcome food for thought. But it's hardly fair to associate me with "clients who have been known to bite down hard enough in daty to draw blood..."

Your concern for Chinese SPs is laudable, though I think you've a tendency to dress up your resentment toward these girls—for the way they've eaten into your business?—as concern for their welfare.

I've had lots of feedback from micro girls as well as from mamasans, thanking me for how well I treat these girls. Modesty prevents me from mentioning such praise in my reviews.

I don't share your view that Western SPs' remarks about the topic of letting a client shave their pussies "are no doubt the exact same things going through the minds of the asian sps who you see..." I'm not at all surprised most Western SPs wouldn't dream of letting a "stranger" shave their pussies.

But there's every reason not to extrapolate from their mindset to that of Chinese SPs. Understandably, due to lack of cross-cultural experience, you underestimate the differences between Western and Asian SPs.

The crux of the difference is that Western ladies were generally brought up in a culture of relative privilege and entitlement—whereas Chinese micro girls have almost always grown up under conditions of grinding poverty and squalor.

Notice, I'm not passing judgment on Western SPs; I admit, if I were female and had chosen be an SP, I'd more than likely be the same type of sourpuss contrarian as yourself. All too often, Western SPs make a pooner feel he has to walk on eggshells about where he's allowed to touch and what he's allowed to do.

Chinese SPs tend be humble, grateful, easy-going, forgiving and yes—"cooperative", not out of fear, but out of eagerness to please that's a deep part of their cultural identity. An elite Western companion might sneer at a $40 tip, but it goes a long way with micro girls (and sometimes even opens their backdoor or makes them amenable to ideas like pussy-shaving).

I daresay, at least one in 3 micro girls I'll politely ask to arrange a special shaving session will happily agree. I'd even bet that, of the remaining 2 girls, at least one is likely—upon receipt of my gift of a razor, shave cream and shaving oil—to shave off her bush in preparation of my promised repeat visit, a few days later.


Your judgment is peeking out, every time you respond to a non-asian sp comment, though. You assume and presume that anyone who is supportive of these asian sp's choice to be who they are is suspect, but you don't take the time to consider that your suggestions, for the main part, are overbearing and unwelcome. An actual asian guy (wilde) shows up here and spanks you for trying to find a work around cultural preferences.

It seems you only pretend to prefer the asian sp, when in fact isn't it simply that you can force them into situations that anyone who speaks English fluently or not an employee would refuse? Someone who makes 60 bucks a session, would of course appreciate the potential 20 dollar tip you might give her. But you don't even do that anymore lol.

What makes you think that you are any better a client than any of the guys who do not try to manipulate the sp's into strange and unusual (for them) scenarios. Someone who simply pays, gets the standard menu, and leaves?

There are sps out there who have what you are looking for, and are able to provide what you want, are also asian, they simply charge a higher fee and expect that when the time paid for is up, you will leave.

I can't imagine that any session you are involved in, based on your own reviews, stay within the 45 minute you pay for. And I can't imagine that you ever make up the loss potential income to the sps you see. You claim you are in the minds of 'elite' escorts, who you say would sneer at a $40 tip? What arrogance and assumptions you make about people based on absolutely nothing. And when did you ever give a $40 tip to anyone for anything, not even the one you whipped without warning? The ones you poke and prod anally without their prior consent? Anything I'm missing here about your pushy 'coaxing", as wilde would phrase it?

Now you claim I am looking out for their best interest, yet you somehow manage to imply that is a bad thing for me to do? Dressed up resentment? Why, because I object to you bullying them or trying to figure out how to best manipulate them? Dress them up? Turn them into little dollies?

You claim their "cultural identity" is to be "humble, grateful, easy-going, forgiving and yes—"cooperative"" and you don't think that has anything to do with being here illegally, an employee who owes a ton of money, just their nature?

You really don't know anything about asian women, do you, not ones you aren't paying. You assume that I have no experience with the culture, nothing like you have had lol. Unreal. You imagine, because it is convenient, that I've never met one, or seen one, I guess.

You pay them to say what you want to hear.



Then you want other people here to swallow what you are selling? I guess you figure if enough guys start 'suggesting' shaving, you will end up getting what you want. Passive aggressively, but at least you'll get it.

Unbelievably arrogant.


This is the problem with some guy with a half-ass understanding of Chinese culture. In traditional values, women with no pubes (shaved or natural) are known as white tiger and are considered bad luck. That's why almost all Chinese women have a bush. Maybe the OP can consider that before he asks (more like coaxes) any of them to shave. As for making shaving part of an SP's service. All I got to say is: dude, you've been watching way too much Japanese porn.
 

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I don't recall anyone accusing the OP of being an "oppressive white male" or forcing "helpless Asian women" to shave their vaginas. Or did I blink and miss it? lol

"I don't detect anything in the presentation and tone of the OP that indicates that he is behaving like an "oppressive white male" forcing "helpless Asian women" to shave their vaginas, being too demanding, or making unreasonable demands that would endanger the well-being of anyone."
 
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