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sidara

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Last week I had a fella tell me,after services were exchanged, that he forgot his wallet. I have learned my lesson and will not trust a guy Ive just met.My question is.....how do gentleman prefer to be asked about the "donation"
Personally, the less it is talked about the better for us all, I think.I do not want to get burned again,nor do I wish to turn someone off, insisting on the "donation" upfront. Its really unfortunate when one moronic motherfucker ruins it for everyone. So please, do tell, how I might ask without offending or turning off a client.Thank you for your time.I know this may piss off chicks too, so I apologise; I know we should all work along simular lines. And from now on I will. I am a person who gives trust first until someone proves otherwise. I am generous with my time and service, so I dont think I am asking too much. Just the fair exchange after an agreement. Any info is greatly appreciated :)
 
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mick_eight

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Last week I had a fella tell me,after services were exchanged, that he forgot his wallet. I have learned my lesson and will not trust a guy Ive just met.My question is.....how do gentleman prefer to be asked about the "donation"
Personally, the less it is talked about the better for us all, I think.I do not want to get burned again,nor do I wish to turn someone off, insisting on the "donation" upfront. Its really unfortunate when one moronic motherfucker ruins it for everyone. So please, do tell, how I might ask without offending or turning off a client.Thank you for your time.
Did he have a car? A cell phone, a watch, maybe a wedding ring, lots of things to hold till the low life cums up with the cash. If none of above, send him to get it in his underwear.
 

Kashs

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Did he have a car? A cell phone, a watch, maybe a wedding ring, lots of things to hold till the low life cums up with the cash. If none of above, send him to get it in his underwear.
LOL :D

Sidara, just ask for money upfront if you have never seen the guy before. If he has a problem with that, then it's his problem, not yours.
 

jim

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Did he have a car? A cell phone, a watch, maybe a wedding ring, lots of things to hold till the low life cums up with the cash. If none of above, send him to get it in his underwear.
Any guy who's on the up and up would have no problem leaving a cell phone or watch. If he's not willing to do that you might as well get prepared for disappointment.

Ask for the donation up front dear, anyone not willing to do this is not worth seeing.

Now as to how to ask you can just say "I'm glad you chose to stay with me, we have a policy of collecting the fee up front".
 

FortunateOne

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"Let's get the business part out of the way so we can relax and enjoy our time"

I'm not sure how or why any sp is going to start a session without making sure you are both on the same page re: rates and services and time. If you don't talk about it at least a little, he is going to believe he is paying 120 for an hour and half of msog pse fs. The sp might think he's there for a half hour hj.

You can't sugar coat this biz, and pretend you aren't getting paid or paying, so why not do it at the beginning and forget about creating some sort of illusion of a "date". If she does her job right, he will forget all about the cash transaction that occurred at the beginning. There is nothing shameful or wrong about $ for services.

And who has never reached into their pocket or wallet only to find out that you have less than you thought you did? Things happen, and as a client it is better to get it out of the way then to realize later that you didn't have enough lol.
 

rescue911

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up front

i prefer to pay the donation up front and get it out of the way. that way we can both relax, enjoy our drinks, and have fun.

the donation was discussed up front so we both know that we are meeting for our own reasons, one to have fun, one to make a living..and perhaps have fun. once the money is taken care of the fantasy can begin.
 

praxis

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Rash of rip-off artists. . .

I'm not sure if there is only one guy or a group of men doing this - but I think anyone who rips off an SP deserves to have their pictures sent to the other MP's (just like pictures of "bad dates") and be displayed prominently where SP's and clients can see them (like in the waiting room). If all MP's have their security cameras, they can have pictures of these characters captured on the security tape and eventually printed - it will be the end of their "freebie" pooning days.

I know that there are privacy issues involved here - but then again, everyone get their mugs taken at every Tim Horton's counter that they go to...

BTW: The cost of these security camera systems have gone down that every MP operator should be able to afford them (it will also increase the security for the ladies - especially the ones who may have to work alone and at night).

A camera is big detterent to the idiots who have been victimizing these ladies.
 

jim

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I'm not sure if there is only one guy or a group of men doing this - but I think anyone who rips off an SP deserves to have their pictures sent to the other MP's (just like pictures of "bad dates") and be displayed prominently where SP's and clients can see them (like in the waiting room). If all MP's have their security cameras, they can have pictures of these characters captured on the security tape and eventually printed - it will be the end of their "freebie" pooning days.

I know that there are privacy issues involved here - but then again, everyone get their mugs taken at every Tim Horton's counter that they go to...

BTW: The cost of these security camera systems have gone down that every MP operator should be able to afford them (it will also increase the security for the ladies - especially the ones who may have to work alone and at night).

A camera is big detterent to the idiots who have been victimizing these ladies.

I agree totally. I bet even a sign that says that the public areas of the studio are under video surveillance would scare off some of these guys.
However if the studio has one of these losers on tape they should be posting his picture and sharing it with all the other studios. The pictures should also be posted in a public area.
 

AmazonBarbie

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I personally like the leave what your comfortable spending approach, then start the shower....if you come back and there is nothing there .... you know something is up......
 

gumbyman6900

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I personally like the leave what your comfortable spending approach, then start the shower....if you come back and there is nothing there .... you know something is up......
I have had a few SPs ask me to leave fee on table as they leave for me to have my shower when I first saw them. I have no problem with that at all. Very few ever ask that when I first see them, but I think it should be done to protect you.

I agree, if they are not willing to lay down at least $$ as a retainer of sorts they are not worth wasting your time on.


As far as a) Posting of pics or b) Posting of signs of video in public areas of MPs... that may sound all well and good, but you will find that those married and otherwise anonymous desiring clients will run with their faces covered. I personally couldn't care in the least. I love this hobby and all the girls in it :D Anonymity is the one thing that many of the clients desire from what I have seen. Hell, you see some guys scurry into other rooms or hide their faces in shame when you walk into lobbies they are in. I tend to chuckle a bit at those guys.
 

jim

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I have had a few SPs ask me to leave fee on table as they leave for me to have my shower when I first saw them. I have no problem with that at all. Very few ever ask that when I first see them, but I think it should be done to protect you.

I agree, if they are not willing to lay down at least $$ as a retainer of sorts they are not worth wasting your time on.


As far as a) Posting of pics or b) Posting of signs of video in public areas of MPs... that may sound all well and good, but you will find that those married and otherwise anonymous desiring clients will run with their faces covered. I personally couldn't care in the least. I love this hobby and all the girls in it :D Anonymity is the one thing that many of the clients desire from what I have seen. Hell, you see some guys scurry into other rooms or hide their faces in shame when you walk into lobbies they are in. I tend to chuckle a bit at those guys.
Many of the parlours do have this already without the signs. So perhaps we have a lot of pooners out there who aren't aware that they are already on camera?
 

MrR

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Well, I for one couldn't care how you ask. I know why I'm here and I know what I want. By the time you see the girl you should know what you want.

I personally like the leave what your comfortable spending approach, then start the shower....if you come back and there is nothing there .... you know something is up......
I've had this before and I would say it's the nicest way I've ever been asked. But I worry that she's wondering (unless you fan them out) how much you left unless she actually counts it infront of you, which I fiind rude at the beginning. I just say how much I put down.

To each their own, but I think the girls deserve to know why you are here and to show that you are commited. And tips to come after.
 

Annalise Lane

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lets all remember that it isn't just first timers that rip off girls - the long lasting trusted ones like to pull this naughtiness too.

I had one man, who came over to my place and insisted that because we got along so well it was free. Or how about the one ... or that one ... or the other one - lol

Saidly I'm as neive as the day is long sometimes and believe in the good of humanity --- WELL fuck that crap - I've got bills to pay, so this nice nice has gotten me NO where !!
 

DB7

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Money up front... when they are taking a shower, you can check the money and make sure it's all there. Not there, no services have yet been given.
 

Markl

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Ahh I had a brain fart once after leaving a particularly good session with Cherry, when she was Shelby at 118. I left and started to walk down the stairs and she called after me. "Mark, I'm sorry to say, and I wouldn't even bother, but you forgot to pay me, If I had the room fee, I'd let you go."

Wow was I embarrassed. Then again I am absent minded. I think I apologized for a good five minutes. I've always given her more than her rates, and I never ever again forgot about it.

I hate to see girls get ripped off intentionally.
 

threepeat

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I personally have never had a problem paying up front. I actually offer the money up front if it's the first time I'm seeing a girl. I figure I need to pay sooner or later anyways so what difference does an hour make? Some guys think girls who ask for the money up front are sketchy and have less incentive to treat the guy to a good session, but I figure the odds are just as good that if a girl asks for money and doesn't get it, she will not be comfortable having a good time, so it's a wash.

That being said, there's no easier way to say it than what some of the guys said below, so you may as well do it and sort out the assholes from the not-assholes. If he freaks, at least you haven't wasted your time.

As for cameras, it would seem to me that the girls have just as much to lose as the guys being on camera, so not sure if it benefits the studio at all.
 

edmchef

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If I've been with a girl before, the donation is usually on the table while we're still settling in. Some girls seem to think talking business upfront will kill the mood, but I'd rather get the business out of the way first. Then, once the services are enjoyed, there's no awkward fumbling for the wallet shit.
 

DQ Guy

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The monster under your bed
Thats why I always rub my little leprechaun
and make 3 wishes before I start.

1 make her beautiful
2 make me good in bed
3 don't forget to pay
and my little leprechaun is always happy to help:D
 

sidara

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Wow I got answers and some giggles :) Thank you. Yes I worry about killing the mood and making "him" feel uncomfortable. Thing is,having worked in massage now for long enough; It is a job and I take my job seriously. Customer service is of the upmost importance to me,no matter what sector I work in. But then there is the part where Im doing this to pay my bills( thank god Im not a high roller). Anyways I appreciate all the input. I have already begun practicing asking upfront. I like the idea of getting buisness out of the way so we can both enjoy the time. Thank you for your time.It is awfully tempting now to ask all the questions that roll around my head and pertain to this job. I will resist for now. This job is really fantastic for the most part. Love the boys.....always
 
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