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Mrmotorscooter

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All the $$$$ being spent criminalizing legit legal gun owners would be much better spent on going after the real problem, the gangsters and their illegally smuggled weaponry. What a bunch of buffoons we have in Ottawa, it’s just ridiculous!👎🏻



Forwarded from the CSSA email:

Liberals Ban Semi-Automatic Firearms

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE �


November 22, 2022


OSHAWA, ON � Today, rumours that Justin Trudeau�s Liberal government will ban semi-automatic rifles and shotguns are confirmed.


An amendment to Bill C-21, currently before a House of Commons committee, was tabled today that will ban all semi-automatic rifles and shotguns capable of accepting an external magazine.


That Bill C-21, in Clause 1, be amended by adding after line 15 on page 1 the following:
  • (g) a firearm that is a rifle or shotgun, that is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner and that is designed to accept a detachable cartridge magazine with a capacity greater than five cartridges of the type for which the firearm was originally designed

This amendment also contains a huge list of firearms specifically identified by name, including the Simonov SKS and all variants, of which 22 are listed by name.


But the amendments are far worse than that.


Formerly unregulated spare parts, such as barrels and slides, will require a Possession and Acquisition Licence to purchase and possess.


The definition of Prohibited Firearm will be legislatively expanded to include any firearm capable of discharging a projectile with a muzzle energy exceeding 10 000 Joules , a firearm with a bore diameter of 20 mm or greater as well as all semi-automatic long guns with detachable magazines.


Liberals also propose to ban 3D-printed firearms by outlawing possession of computer data that pertain to a firearm � that are capable of being used with a 3D printer, metal milling machine or similar computer system�


Liberals propose to criminalize the distribution of this computer data used by 3D printers and CAD machines.


This is a glimpse into the newly created offences for which the majority of Canada�s 2.2 licensed firearms owners will now be criminalized, should these amendments to Bill C-21 become law.


More details to come as we dig deeper into this latest Liberal assault on RCMP-vetted, federally-licensed firearms owners.


The criminal possession and use of smuggled handguns, rifles and shotguns will, of course, remain unaffected by any of these measures.

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For more information, please contact:


Tony Bernardo, Executive Director

Canadian Shooting Sports Association

Email:abernardo343@rogers.com

Phone: 905-999-4337
 
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I have a rifle that can put 15 rounds of .22 downrange as fast as I can pull the trigger. It's no AK-47, but could really damage or kill a lot of people/animals/property.
Since it has no detachable magazine, it appears to be unaffected by this new regulation. If a magazine has 5 round capacity, carry 20 magazines.
I just wish they had people who understand guns in charge of this, instead of knee-jerk idiots on a mission.
 
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Robert Upndown

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I do not object to guns, I have been trained to use them. However, is there a practical use for a civilian to possess a semi-automatic weapon outside of the military that I am missing?
 

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My dad let us handle guns at a very young age but he told us that there came responsibilities with that. He told me guns were nothing more than a tool,albeit a tool designed for killing. So I shot game deer,grouse,moose etc and I never had a fascination with guns,I never felt that it made my penis longer because I owned them. I never got the allure of jamming a banana clip in a semi auto and wasting a bunch of ammo shooting at paper targets or old mannequins? To me they were something that I pulled out of the locked closet once a year,sighted in and when hunting, once I filled my tag I cleaned it and put it away and forgot about it for another year.
 
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My dad let us handle guns at a very young age but he told us that there came responsibilities with that. He told me guns were nothing more than a tool,albeit a tool designed for killing. So I shot game deer,grouse,moose etc and I never had a fascination with guns,I never felt that it made my penis longer because I owned them. I never got the allure of jamming a banana clip in a semi auto and wasting a bunch of ammo shooting at paper targets or old mannequins? To me they were something that I pulled out of the locked closet once a year,sighted in and when hunting, once I filled my tag I cleaned it and put it away and forgot about it for another year.
Exactly
That was the way it was. And still is for most of us raised in that way. Not many of us were.
It is too bad society is so F—-ed up that mass murders are happening so often it is getting to be the norm.
 
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Mrmotorscooter

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The gangsters are doing all the shooting around here, that money they will be wasting on all this would be better spent on more prisons and dolling out much stiffer penalties. Legal gun owners have a very stringent and thorough vetting to hurdle through just to get their firearms license yet these are the people being targeted. These guys are virtue signalling idiots plucking the low hanging fruit which will do nothing to curb the violence unfortunately.🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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I do not object to guns, I have been trained to use them. However, is there a practical use for a civilian to possess a semi-automatic weapon outside of the military that I am missing?

let me guess, you live in the city, always have

you sound like a typical liberal, I don't need it so why should you have it, I want to ban it, take it away

that's the argument, not logic, facts, reality

go ask the people in the north who can't run to a supermarket in 5 mins why they need a rifle

cause that's what the Liberals are banning, rifles, in this case

there is no difference between a semi-auto you can get in Canada and a "scary" "black" semi-auto "so called" like all the other things the liberals don't like, "so called"

assault rifle, which is what the Military have, not civilians, you haven't been able to buy one in Canada, forever

CANADA DOESN'T HAVE ASSAULT RIFLES, THAT'S A LIE, A LIE ANYONE WHO SAYS IT, LIKE THE LIBERALS, NDP SHOULD BE SHOUTED DOWN UNTIL THEY

TELL THE TRUTH, THEY NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN ASSAULT RIFLES OR EVEN ASSAULT LIKE RIFLES IN CANADA

THEY'RE ALL SEMI AUTOS, WHICH ALL FUNCTION THE SAME, AND ARE NO MORE DEADLY THAN A SINGLE SHOT OR BOLT ACTION IN THE HANDS OF SOMEONE

WHO IS SKILLED IN USING THEM OR EVEN UNSKILLED, BUT THE MEDIA AND LIBERALS SHILL IT LIKE IT'S NOT REALITY

just like we've had proper Handgun Legislation and registration since the 1930's

just like people who are lawful owners aren't the one's committing crimes with them in any numbers to warrant taking them away

cause you don't have the ability to understand why someone else might want one, need one, use one

we have laws, had stronger laws, which Trudeau got rid of recently to deal with the minority of people who aren't "civil" when it comes to firearms

they should be harsher, or do you not believe a person who's willing to go into civil society and fire off a gun, any kind in public shouldn't be put in jail for a long time?

but where are all the whining superficial Liberal/NDP who won't support or enact those laws? everywhere, cause that would require actually doing something useful

instead they do the opposite but equivalent of "hope and prayers"

enact useless regulations and laws that won't go after the actual people committing the crimes and leave the law abiding people they don't like alone

go look at the facts, how few people are actually murdered every year, how the past 20 years of laws or lack haven't moved the needle statistically to even bother

cause they're coming from the States, the number one issue, which they won't do anything about, go look where they're coming over

Indian Reserves, in Que and Ont, that straddle the border, where the political bitches are too scared to go, for fear of being called a racist

just like the EA, which didn't meet the legal threshold, it was enacted to play to the political base of the Liberals/NDP, same with the bans, buybacks on guns

not facts

just look at the US, they don't tell the truth, go look, around 50% or so, might be slightly more of the "GUN DEATHS" they always spout off everytime

are SUICIDES, NOT MURDERS, SUICIDES EVERY YEAR, YEAR AFTER YEAR

IN CANADA, DO YOU EVERY SEE HOW MANY MURDERS ARE GANG MEMBERS KILLING OTHER GANG MEMBERS?

YOU KNOW FACTS, ACTUAL FACTS? SUICIDES? REPORTED TO THE SIMPLE MINDED LIBERALS IN THE CITIES WHO GO YEAH TAKE THAT AWAY

CAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME, SO FUCK THAT OTHER GUY!!!

I GOT MINE

JUST LIKE ALL OF BC AND QUE AND ONT WHEN IT COMES TO OIL AND GAS

WE GOT OURS, BUT NOT A DROP MORE ACROSS OUR LANDS

YEAH, WHY DOESN'T SOMEBODY ELSE NEED SOMETHING YOU DON'T

THE NEW LIBERALS, PROGRESSIVES, NICE
 

Robert Upndown

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let me guess, you live in the city, always have

you sound like a typical liberal, I don't need it so why should you have it, I want to ban it, take it away

that's the argument, not logic, facts, reality

go ask the people in the north who can't run to a supermarket in 5 mins why they need a rifle

cause that's what the Liberals are banning, rifles, in this case

there is no difference between a semi-auto you can get in Canada and a "scary" "black" semi-auto "so called" like all the other things the liberals don't like, "so called"

assault rifle, which is what the Military have, not civilians, you haven't been able to buy one in Canada, forever

CANADA DOESN'T HAVE ASSAULT RIFLES, THAT'S A LIE, A LIE ANYONE WHO SAYS IT, LIKE THE LIBERALS, NDP SHOULD BE SHOUTED DOWN UNTIL THEY

TELL THE TRUTH, THEY NOT AND NEVER HAVE BEEN ASSAULT RIFLES OR EVEN ASSAULT LIKE RIFLES IN CANADA

THEY'RE ALL SEMI AUTOS, WHICH ALL FUNCTION THE SAME, AND ARE NO MORE DEADLY THAN A SINGLE SHOT OR BOLT ACTION IN THE HANDS OF SOMEONE

WHO IS SKILLED IN USING THEM OR EVEN UNSKILLED, BUT THE MEDIA AND LIBERALS SHILL IT LIKE IT'S NOT REALITY

just like we've had proper Handgun Legislation and registration since the 1930's

just like people who are lawful owners aren't the one's committing crimes with them in any numbers to warrant taking them away

cause you don't have the ability to understand why someone else might want one, need one, use one

we have laws, had stronger laws, which Trudeau got rid of recently to deal with the minority of people who aren't "civil" when it comes to firearms

they should be harsher, or do you not believe a person who's willing to go into civil society and fire off a gun, any kind in public shouldn't be put in jail for a long time?

but where are all the whining superficial Liberal/NDP who won't support or enact those laws? everywhere, cause that would require actually doing something useful

instead they do the opposite but equivalent of "hope and prayers"

enact useless regulations and laws that won't go after the actual people committing the crimes and leave the law abiding people they don't like alone

go look at the facts, how few people are actually murdered every year, how the past 20 years of laws or lack haven't moved the needle statistically to even bother

cause they're coming from the States, the number one issue, which they won't do anything about, go look where they're coming over

Indian Reserves, in Que and Ont, that straddle the border, where the political bitches are too scared to go, for fear of being called a racist

just like the EA, which didn't meet the legal threshold, it was enacted to play to the political base of the Liberals/NDP, same with the bans, buybacks on guns

not facts

just look at the US, they don't tell the truth, go look, around 50% or so, might be slightly more of the "GUN DEATHS" they always spout off everytime

are SUICIDES, NOT MURDERS, SUICIDES EVERY YEAR, YEAR AFTER YEAR

IN CANADA, DO YOU EVERY SEE HOW MANY MURDERS ARE GANG MEMBERS KILLING OTHER GANG MEMBERS?

YOU KNOW FACTS, ACTUAL FACTS? SUICIDES? REPORTED TO THE SIMPLE MINDED LIBERALS IN THE CITIES WHO GO YEAH TAKE THAT AWAY

CAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT ME, SO FUCK THAT OTHER GUY!!!

I GOT MINE

JUST LIKE ALL OF BC AND QUE AND ONT WHEN IT COMES TO OIL AND GAS

WE GOT OURS, BUT NOT A DROP MORE ACROSS OUR LANDS

YEAH, WHY DOESN'T SOMEBODY ELSE NEED SOMETHING YOU DON'T

THE NEW LIBERALS, PROGRESSIVES, NICE
I am from the South where guns are a way of life. Was hunting from the age of 6. I am also ex-military and very well trained in the use of firearms. I never said I supported the ban, was just asking what the practical use of a semi-automatic weapon was outside of law enforcement and the military? Can you answer that?
 
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I am from the South where guns are a way of life. Was hunting from the age of 6. I am also ex-military and very well trained in the use of firearms. I never said I supported the ban, was just asking what the practical use of a semi-automatic weapon was outside of law enforcement and the military? Can you answer that?
Always astonished at some of the replies, as I am sure you are too Bob.
You make a very straight forward and absolutely suitable statement/question and you get a 5 minute diatribe back.
It's why I use that ignore button so much.
 

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Always astonished at some of the replies, as I am sure you are too Bob.
The irony of someone with clear anger management issues arguing for greater access to semi auto firearms!
Bear in mind there are many who have no other outlet for their vitriol.
At least if he's busy throwing tantrums here he isn't dishing it out to someone in person.:oops:
 

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I am from the South where guns are a way of life. Was hunting from the age of 6. I am also ex-military and very well trained in the use of firearms. I never said I supported the ban, was just asking what the practical use of a semi-automatic weapon was outside of law enforcement and the military? Can you answer that?

So you're from the US, I'm gathering

so you never heard of a Polar bear?

semi auto rifles in Canada aren't like the US, you can't get an clip with 30 rounds here

it's already illegal to hunt with one with more than a capacity of 5

and they're again

not military rifles, those are autos, fully autos

pretending they're allowed in Canada, ever were in the last 75 or more years is irrational emotional bullshit

practical, again, could go on for about an hour

farmers, hunting

you ever had a moose or elk, bear run at you?

you want a single shot then? really?

I've had a doe, that was enough, had a buddy with a Cow Moose after they shot the calf, hearing him describe it

yeah, no practical use

but once again

where is the argument against it?

the Liberal argument is "they don't like people like that"

not facts, semi auto rifles aren't being used to kill people in Canada, like the United States

and the few that did, basically didn't have them legally in the first place, just like the hand guns

facts, not feelings

this is all about politics, not facts, reality

you can't think of anything practical

then prove it's a statistical reason to take them away?

you can't, because there isn't one

other than irrational emotional cripples who don't like them based on what they might be used for

even when they're not being used in that way by law abiding people

so, start listing the stats on them being used in homicides, crimes, by law abiding citizens

cause you won't be able to

cause facts, reality doesn't back it up
 
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vanperb

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My identity is not my gun, nor is it my ability to possess/own a gun.
For that reason, this matters little to me.

And I can not see how this can grow to infringe on rights of non-gun owners when as a country we've decided that guns are to be strictly controlled to begin with.
 

Robert Upndown

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So you're from the US, I'm gathering

so you never heard of a Polar bear?

semi auto rifles in Canada aren't like the US, you can't get an clip with 30 rounds here

it's already illegal to hunt with one with more than a capacity of 5

and they're again

not military rifles, those are autos, fully autos

pretending they're allowed in Canada, ever were in the last 75 or more years is irrational emotional bullshit

practical, again, could go on for about an hour

farmers, hunting

you ever had a moose or elk, bear run at you?

you want a single shot then? really?

I've had a doe, that was enough, had a buddy with a Cow Moose after they shot the calf, hearing him describe it

yeah, no practical use

but once again

where is the argument against it?

the Liberal argument is "they don't like people like that"

not facts, semi auto rifles aren't being used to kill people in Canada, like the United States

and the few that did, basically didn't have them legally in the first place, just like the hand guns

facts, not feelings

this is all about politics, not facts, reality

you can't think of anything practical

then prove it's a statistical reason to take them away?

you can't, because there isn't one

other than irrational emotional cripples who don't like them based on what they might be used for

even when they're not being used in that way by law abiding people

so, start listing the stats on them being used in homicides, crimes, by law abiding citizens

cause you won't be able to

cause facts, reality doesn't back it up
Born in Canada, raised in the states, moved to Canada in 1980. So far you are batting ZERO. You still did not answer my question. I never said I supported the ban, was just asking what the practical use of a semi-automatic weapon was outside of law enforcement and the military? Can you answer that without the soap box? Get laid will ya!
 
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Always astonished at some of the replies, as I am sure you are too Bob.
You make a very straight forward and absolutely suitable statement/question and you get a 5 minute diatribe back.
It's why I use that ignore button so much.
how adult of you, that you can't handle a difference of opinion

so you result to the new Liberal way of ignoring, rather than coming up with an actual fact to support your view

the stats are clear in Canada, law abiding gun owners aren't committing crimes with
the guns the fucking cult of Trudeau is going after

it's unlicensed criminals, getting guns from the US

facts

this is about people in the cities who couldn't tell you the difference between a Browning semi-auto and a AR-15

other than the lies they've been told by the Liberals, that one is a "military type assault" ie a Scary Black looking gun

which both operate, function the exact same

and neither are an actual Military weapon, a fully auto

but prove me wrong if you can see this from your safe space under the stairs ignoring my statements

give us some stats, facts, where these guns have killed over 50% of the 700 or so murders in Canada in the last year

tell us other than than you can't see a reason why someone else should have something you don't like, don't have a use for, like

that you "feel" isn't necessary

or don't you think it's reasonable to give facts to support your desire to take someone"s property? Justin?
 
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