Inside China, people don't protest. I watched a group come together and prepare to carry their signs. 3 Police buses rolled up, the lot of the group were loaded into another bus. Took 5 minutes. Probably, none of them were ever heard of again. Police checked all of our cameras and phones to ensure no pictures or video. No, we didn't get offered a choice. Ask any Ex-Pat working in China and they will have a similar account. Where Tourists go is very controlled. The Tourists get herded through the attraction and loaded back on their buses.
How do you think the protests in Hong Kong will end?
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I couldn't agree more. I believe China will just let this play out on its own. Hong Kong economy will just die own its own and who is to be blame? The pro democracy people who are on the street. With China's economic power now, they don't need Hong Kong. Did you know that China can just shut off the water and electricity of the island, and HK will be done.
They say God created the world, but everything right now is made in China. This is a reality we all need to face. Even the US with trump trade wars have very little effect on them. That's how powerful China is today.
I would love it if Yang became the next president of the USA. First of all, he is 180 degrees different from Trump, which is a very good thing! As well, can you imagine how pissed off the Chinese government would be if someone from Taiwan became president of the USA lol:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...hina-says-nba-should-stand-up-for-free-speech
JD
https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...hina-says-nba-should-stand-up-for-free-speech
JD
Little taste of what they have to look forward to......
[video]https://gem.cbc.ca/media/the-passionate-eye/episode-136/38e815a-011deff16a0[/video]
Things getting worse as time passes. Won't belong before the tanks roll in and they can kiss their independence good bye.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...es-with-bows-and-arrows/ar-BBWG2pl?li=AAggNb9
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/worl...es-with-bows-and-arrows/ar-BBWG2pl?li=AAggNb9
You're right. Independence was the wrong word.
I should have said Special Administrative Region (SAR) and for all intents and purposes, it is allowed to operate as an independent country.
Regardless, they can soon kiss that good bye. Even though the current system was negotiated to remain in place for 50 years after the 1997 transition (2047), I can see it ending sooner and who the hell is going to stop the Chinese?
People's China better have a hard look at history before rolling tanks into Hong Kong. Credibility in Soviet ideology went straight downhill from 1968 when the Warsaw Pact rolled tanks into Prague, Czechoslovakia.
After listening to Carrie lam on tv, those protesters will hang her in the streets if they get a chance. Times are different now from 25 years ago...
if china gets directly involved, its a different and more serious game after that...
appears things will get worse before better for now..
if china gets directly involved, its a different and more serious game after that...
appears things will get worse before better for now..
I think that 25 years ago its was a party that ran things in China, now its one man.
That Chinese executive from Huawei, being held for extradition to the US, why does she own a house in Vancouver, wasn't her kids there too at some point? If China is so great why does she have a house in Vancouver? Its a back up plan if ever China implodes or cracks down on the people. Same with most of those Chinese owned houses in the lower mainland....
Why Vancouver, there are better places to buy in the world that have better weather...that is not under the reach of the Chinese military, but under the protective dome of the US.
No I think that HK will tear itself apart, eventually the police will side with the general populace; then the army will move in with the tanks..
That Chinese executive from Huawei, being held for extradition to the US, why does she own a house in Vancouver, wasn't her kids there too at some point? If China is so great why does she have a house in Vancouver? Its a back up plan if ever China implodes or cracks down on the people. Same with most of those Chinese owned houses in the lower mainland....
Why Vancouver, there are better places to buy in the world that have better weather...that is not under the reach of the Chinese military, but under the protective dome of the US.
No I think that HK will tear itself apart, eventually the police will side with the general populace; then the army will move in with the tanks..
I must admit I never considered the possibility that the police might eventually side with the protesters. I suppose that I should have, since it has happened in other countries in similar situations. Though having said that, I feel it is somewhat unlikely, just because it would almost certainly mean that the police that "changed sides" would no longer have a job in whatever form of government is eventually put in place by the Chinese govenment.
But the situation is definitely getting more and more tense in HK. An elderly civilian cleaning up after the mess created by the protesters was recently killed by a stray thrown brick. A few more incidents of this nature might be enough of a reason for the Chinese government to send in the tanks. But I don't believe that the protesters will be stopped nearly as easily as they were 30 years ago in Tiananmen Square. For one thing, they are much better organized and for another, they act more like a guerrilla army than a static protest group as was the case in Tiananmen Square.
Since I started this thread, my view of the protests and what the most likely outcome will be has definitely evolved. I still have no idea how it will all end. I do wonder what the protesters believe they can eventually gain from their continued uncivil disobedience. I do not see any way that this can end well for them unless they come up with a more modest list of demands.
JD
Agreed. This type of civil disobedience may be successful in a different scenario involving a democratically elected government or even an unpopular dictator perilously clinging to power but if they think that their protests are somehow going to result in the mainland turning on the current rulers, which is what it would take, they are delusional.
While Bejing is likely going to do everything it can to avoid appearing to be the aggressor, they will eventually say enough is enough and clamp down hard, before any of this discord gets an opportunity to infiltrate the mainland.
The protesters should be settling into peaceful negotiations to ensure their current freedoms and current 1 country, 2 systems status before it is all gone in a blink of an eye.
Bejing will only be patient for so long.
J
Wow! Pro democracy candidates won big in Hong Kong election. 17 of 18 councils now controlled by pro democracy councillors. Of course they have little actual power but it shows the majority of people are behind the protesters and are not supporters of Beijing.
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