Heat dome: lack of providers with air conditioning

[Vëɲü§6667]

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Wim Hof is a Dutch guy who manipulates his body temp and advocates cold baths for health.

Wow, personally I don't like cold baths.

But that sounds like some neat physiological work going on inside your body to be able to manipulate your body temp that well.

 

[SolidSnake]

Little point in arguing whether we're having a heat dome or heat wave - no one here is submitting their paper/thesis.

If the heat feels uncomfortable, just do whatever you can to make yourself and others feel better. It's as simple as that.

 

[80watts]

I've had my ac set at 17 degrees since May.... No one's complaining for me, since I've been back in the scene now less then a week.
I love living in the arctic. 🧊🧊🧊😏

Your setpoint of 17. If your ac is set up for your floorplan (square feet), it should be 17 at your thermometer/control panel. Your whole place should be that cold.

If you have a window or portable ac for your room, it might not be enough for whole floor plan. Hence some rooms will be warmer.

During a heat wave/dome when the temp get to 40 outside, to prevent a shock to your body, set the ac to 22-24. This also saves on the electric bill too.

 

[kelcaine]

I personally have air conditioning, and my condo I rent for my incall does have specific requirements for air conditioners via the strata, and I have found it to be a worthwhile investment to keep my condo at a comfortable level. I also choose a condo where my balcony is north facing, so it doesn’t get that hot inside it.

Overall it’s ones personal choice to get A/C or not. A good portable air conditioning unit costs $600-$1000 new. It isn’t cheap. I got my A/C for my own comfort as well though. My bedroom can really heat up when guests are over, in all the right ways.

I also would like to mention I only read a few comments here, but would like to add for those who think we all make a lot of money because of what we charge, may not understand the amount of money we invest into our business, and there’s many SP’s who have other expenses, may not work full time (family obligations, health issues etc), and some invest more into their business than others. So not all SP’s have the ability to afford a few hundred dollars for an A/C. Air conditioning is a luxury for many, that many can’t afford.

 

[Sheen]

Let me know which ones don't have it....love it when we are both drenched while banging

 

[jgg]

I also would like to mention I only read a few comments here, but would like to add for those who think we all make a lot of money because of what we charge, may not understand the amount of money we invest into our business, and there’s many SP’s who have other expenses, may not work full time (family obligations, health issues etc), and some invest more into their business than others. So not all SP’s have the ability to afford a few hundred dollars for an A/C. Air conditioning is a luxury for many, that many can’t afford.

People are always trying to figure out how someone runs their business and how they should. Maybe if they put the same time and effort into running or even having their own business, they wouldn't have the time to worry about others.

 

[Noob888]

Overall it’s ones personal choice to get A/C or not. A good portable air conditioning unit costs $600-$1000 new. It isn’t cheap.

That's like saying it's a personal choice to have a bed, clean linen, cell phone, and more. Imagine if a restaurant owner said the same thing but in a different way: it's a personal choice to have a washroom, tables, plates (boxes), utensils, and air conditioning?

The price of A/C you quoted is on the extreme side for portable units. A good one can be bought for around $550 plus tax at Costco. To put things into perceptive, these floor standing units were around $2500+ and up, twenty-five years ago. In today's dollars, they'd cost at least $4500.

In my mind, having an A/C is essential like a bed and more at an incall. And if you're declaring your income to CRA, you should be able to claim it as a business expense.

 

[Harmony-bc]

That's like saying it's a personal choice to have a bed, clean linen, cell phone, and more. Imagine if a restaurant owner said the same thing but in a different way: it's a personal choice to have a washroom, tables, plates (boxes), utensils, and air conditioning?

The price of A/C you quoted is on the extreme side for portable units. A good one can be bought for around $550 plus tax at Costco. To put things into perceptive, these floor standing units were around $2500+ and up, twenty-five years ago. In today's dollars, they'd cost at least $4500.

In my mind, having an A/C is essential like a bed and more at an incall. And if you're declaring your income to CRA, you should be able to claim it as a business expense.

lots of restaurants don't have air conditioning lol. Air conditioning is deinitely not a necessity in Vancouver. This isn't Florida.

There are many survival sex workers in this business. Air conditioning is deinitely a luxury that just isn't needed for most of Vancouvers weather. Although our summers are getting hotter and I've noticed Vancouver doesn't rain as much as it used to. So maybe one day, we will be like California where air conditioning is a necessity

I have one tho from when I was living in a south west facing apartment with floor to ceiling windows. I almost died 4 days in a row until I broke down and bought one. I couldn't work with it that hot, so it was a necessity. I'm thrilled it still works

 

[Noob888]

lots of restaurants don't have air conditioning lol. Air conditioning is deinitely not a necessity in Vancouver. This isn't Florida.

Thank you for the geography lesson.

The very few restaurants that I know which are too cheap to invest in an A/C either have closed during a heat wave/heat dome or people only order take-out.

If a restaurant doesn't have A/C I'd hate to be working in a place with terrible business owners. Ramsey would pull his hair out.

It's also very sickening we live in a very ableist and survival of the fittest culture.

 

[rinamood]

Popping my head in just to say my usual incall in Vancouver has centralized A/C and I am comfortably spoiled by it 🫣 Also I like hydrotherapy circuits with the cold parts and the hot parts 💙 Cheers.

 

[jgg]

Thank you for the geography lesson.

The very few restaurants that I know which are too cheap to invest in an A/C either have closed during a heat wave/heat dome or people only order take-out.

If a restaurant doesn't have A/C I'd hate to be working in a place with terrible business owners. Ramsey would pull his hair out.

It's also very sickening we live in a very ableist and survival of the fittest culture.

 

[Crookedmember]

The price of A/C you quoted is on the extreme side for portable units. A good one can be bought for around $550 plus tax at Costco. To put things into perceptive, these floor standing units were around $2500+ and up, twenty-five years ago. In today's dollars, they'd cost at least $4500.

In my mind, having an A/C is essential like a bed and more at an incall. And if you're declaring your income to CRA, you should be able to claim it as a business expense.

Heck, if $550 is too much, Walmart has a portable (stick a hose out the window) unit for $250 this week.

 

[80watts]

The cheapest form of AC is a fan with a bucket of water infront of it... It will raise the humidity in your room. In a dry climate its not bad, in a wetter one, humidity can kill.

Also looking at a outdoor heat pump with a split on the inside, the cost well above 4000.00

In Vancouver when you rent or buy, you will need AC for the heat wave of summer. As you get older the body is slower to react to changes in heat, so knocking off the extreme heat will help the body. Sweating profusely is not good for the body especially if you do not replenish your fluids (water).

The problem is that highrises in Vancouver are not designed for air flow through the building. In the middle east 2000 years ago the ancients were able to make ice in certain designed buildings, using air flow and underground springs. Today not much thought is given to how to cool a house passively. Its too expensive to dig deeper than a basement in order to cool a house let alone a bigger building.

The problem is todays' building code which emphasis on heating and retaining heat; not for when the house is best served by air flow in the spring and fall. How many peoples home are designed to have the wind blow through their house naturally without a fan....

 

[westwoody]

Although I have air conditioning I tend to spend most of my time in my basement. It’s far cooler than the main floor. My gym is down there, and I put a tv down there too. I don’t want to come out!

 

[Noob888]

The cheapest form of AC is a fan with a bucket of water infront of it... It will raise the humidity in your room. In a dry climate its not bad, in a wetter one, humidity can kill.

That's proven to be a myth, just like using a fan to cool you down. But many choose to ignore the science/facts.

Also looking at a outdoor heat pump with a split on the inside, the cost well above 4000.00

In the West Coast, we don't need heat pumps given electrical, furnace, or floor heating is the norm. We need split A/C units which also cost a lot less, almost half of a heat pump. It's also easier to install. Otherwise, an inverter type A/C unit works well and is very efficient.

 

[80watts]

That's proven to be a myth, just like using a fan to cool you down. But many choose to ignore the science/facts.

In the West Coast, we don't need heat pumps given electrical, furnace, or floor heating is the norm. We need split A/C units which also cost a lot less, almost half of a heat pump. It's also easier to install. Otherwise, an inverter type A/C unit works well and is very efficient.

Well please educate me please, what are the science/facts? When you choose to use science as the answear, use facts and an logical explanation.

A fan blowing air over water will evaporate the water. The heat in the air is used to evaporate the water.. The liquid water is turned into water vapour by taking heat out of the air. Convection. As long as the fan is taking the heated water vapour away, the local area will cool as long as the water is there to evaporate and the fan takes the created water vapour away.

When ice melts it turns to water. When the water disappears it has turned to water vapour... all requiring heat from the immediate area through conduction or convection.

Although its your sweat evaporating from your skin (sweat evaporated taking heat from the body), the fan removes the water vapour from your area. The moving air helps to increase the efficiency of removing heat from your body, instead of creating a thermal blanket (when there is no air moving across the skin). Thus is seems like the air cools your skin. By observation alone, the cooling sensation comes from the fan or air blowing over their bodies. They are not wrong by their observations....

So you must test if its from sweat evaporating alone. Wear a wet/dry suit. A dune suit (not possible). Wear a gortex rain suit. Wear a plastic rain suit. When you sweat your skin feels clammy in these suits.

Ancient civilizations used wind towers to cool hot dessert air in subterrain basement, running the hot air over water, which cooled the air, which was use to cool a house.

Is there a different principle at work here other than evaporation. There might be, recent study says that photons of light also are a cause of evaporation of ocean water.

Next, it will be some Wimp particle that causes evaporation or something to that effect.

Newer construction do use heat pumps if the land type will permit it. Most builder will put in a Evaporator/Condensor split A/C unit model that uses refridgerant and fans to cool a house (This type needs a compressor to change the state of the refrigerant and thus requires alot of energy to work). While a heat pump is more energy efficient due to only have to pump.

 

[Larry's Torch]

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The problem is todays' building code which emphasis on heating and retaining heat; not for when the house is best served by air flow in the spring and fall. How many peoples home are designed to have the wind blow through their house naturally without a fan....

Gee. If only there was a way of making openings in the walls. I mean it would be inconvenient, but someone could create a clear substance to block out the weather yet allow light to enter. Actually giving you the ability to see outside as well. And then maybe a larger opening you could block off, but you could open and close it to allow you to get into the building. They would be on all of the walls of the building. You could then open these 'holes' in the walls at the same time thus allowing air to pass through and provide cooling.

 

[80watts]

Gee. If only there was a way of making openings in the walls. I mean it would be inconvenient, but someone could create a clear substance to block out the weather yet allow light to enter. Actually giving you the ability to see outside as well. And then maybe a larger opening you could block off, but you could open and close it to allow you to get into the building. They would be on all of the walls of the building. You could then open these 'holes' in the walls at the same time thus allowing air to pass through and provide cooling.

Dosen't work in a highrise or an apartment building... Last time I checked more people live in these types of building than houses....
Even then most houses are not designed for air flow through them. They are designed for function of the kitchen and sleeping areas off to the side from the waking areas...
Subdivisions are designed in straight rows, not according to the wind direction. My own home is designed to retain heat, and not to have air flow and its a R-2000 home.

How many people have a house that has windows that the air flows through in a straight line? Unless its a custom house, most builders build for profit not your comfort....

The reality is the design of your house/apartment dwells little on how efficient it can be, but how much profit a builder can make...To do that they cut corners and yes they rely on AC and electric heat, which cost you more money as the price of electricity is always going to rise. Its a fucken vicious cycle and the homeowner loses all the time....

So the average homeowner relies on fans, and portable AC units. Just go look at Best Buy, home depot, Rona in the summer months, they sell these things in bulk.... why would they have to buy these things if their house was design from the start to be cool in the summer periods and warm in the winter months...

The whole point is that ancient Persians could cool a house in the dessert with wind towers and underground streams.... without the need for modern electricity.... When design comes into play its cheaper for the builder to rely on AC, but in the long term the owner will have to pay the electricity bill...

 

[masterblaster]

Dosen't work in a highrise or an apartment building... Last time I checked more people live in these types of building than houses....
Even then most houses are not designed for air flow through them. They are designed for function of the kitchen and sleeping areas off to the side from the waking areas...
Subdivisions are designed in straight rows, not according to the wind direction. My own home is designed to retain heat, and not to have air flow and its a R-2000 home.

How many people have a house that has windows that the air flows through in a straight line? Unless its a custom house, most builders build for profit not your comfort....

The reality is the design of your house/apartment dwells little on how efficient it can be, but how much profit a builder can make...To do that they cut corners and yes they rely on AC and electric heat, which cost you more money as the price of electricity is always going to rise. Its a fucken vicious cycle and the homeowner loses all the time....

So the average homeowner relies on fans, and portable AC units. Just go look at Best Buy, home depot, Rona in the summer months, they sell these things in bulk.... why would they have to buy these things if their house was design from the start to be cool in the summer periods and warm in the winter months...

The whole point is that ancient Persians could cool a house in the dessert with wind towers and underground streams.... without the need for modern electricity.... When design comes into play its cheaper for the builder to rely on AC, but in the long term the owner will have to pay the electricity bill...

I remember reading somewhere about the Persian wind towers some time ago. Had to look it up to see how they worked again. Need one in my house these days.

 

[Larry's Torch]

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The whole point is that ancient Persians could cool a house in the dessert with wind towers and underground streams.... without the need for modern electricity....
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So. . . relying on the possibility of having your very own underground stream?
Much of what you suggest won't scale. For example, I'm sure the underground infrastructure in New York is fairly deep and therefore the temp would be fairly consistent (warm in winter, cool in summer). Using the differences in temp. would be very beneficial, but the supply logistics would be a nightmare.