Hassled at the border.

Herb_The_Perb

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About midhight last night I breezed through the Peace Arch border crossing heading into the US -- not a car in the queue. The Border Patrol agent asks me the usual questions -- where do you live, where are you coming from, what did you do there? I tell him Seattle, Vancouver, & went to a concert.

He says what was the concert, so I tell him the Vancouver Symphony. Then he says "do you have a ticket stub?"
WTF?!! I must have crossed this border 50 times or more, and no guard had gone into such a ridiculous level of detail.

I can't find the stub right away, so I give him a symphony program booklet, and he says "is this the concert that you went to?" (DUHH!). I have to tell him that there are several concerts included in the little book, and that mine was one of them. Then I finally find the ticket stub and show him that. He looks it over like a chimp trying to read.

Finally, I say "isn't all this a little little unusual?" He says "I have to verify what you said."

He also asked the usual "what did you buy there question", and I told him.

He was a young Asian-American guy. As we finish up, I ask if he's Japanese-American. He asks why I want to know, in not a very friendly tone of voice. I reply that the concert conductor was Japanese, which you don't see very often, and he did a great job.

I chalk up most of this to inexperience and maybe some cockiness -- the older guys tend to size you up quickly, use their intuition, and wave you through.

Is this unusual -- has anyone here been put through that kind of crap at the border?
 

tongue

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These guys are sensitive so don't try to strike up any conversation with them. They've seen so many liars that we are liar number 1001 that day. It is the way of the future, the border is just getting tighter and tighter. Very soon is the day when we all have to bring passports while crossing the border.
 

Herb_The_Perb

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tongue said:
It is the way of the future, the border is just getting tighter and tighter. Very soon is the day when we all have to bring passports while crossing the border.
In the last year or so, I've always shown them my passport first thing.
This is the first time anything like this has happened to me.

I realize thay my case is trivial. I've just heard a story of a guy here being searched many times, and even detained for an hour over nothing.
 

mustangjoe

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The border guys always give me a hard time. I've never been across the line with much less then a full cavity search. They say there is no 'profile' Yeah, right. Then why do they search my car and my person every damn time?

They are not too discreet either. I've crossed the line a couple of times with some buddies who were unaware of my criminal record. I would have liked to keep it that way, but no. The border guys ALWAYS ask me if I have a record if front of everyone. It's a redundant question because they have all the info on the damn computer screen they are staring at. Them officers are just licking their chops waiting to catch me in a lie. Fuckers. Once I had to go in the office and lift up my shirt. The guy asked me when the last time I fired a gun was. I was like huh??????????

Even tho I always get hassled BIG time, I’ve never been denied entry, so I guess I can’t complain too much.

I’ve always been confused tho because the USA claims they don’t let anyone in who has a criminal record without a waiver.

I’ve never bothered with getting a waiver, and after they hassle me for an hour, they always tell me to have a good trip and to stay out of trouble.

I think the trick is to be honest, cause they already know the answers to the questions they ask, and make lots of eye contact. This shows sincerity. I always act a little bashful when they bring up my record. This shows I’m not proud of what I’ve done, so therefore I’m probably not much of a threat.

Mehh…. Works for me
 

Maury Beniowski

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Border Crossing Tips...

1. Maintain eye-to-eye contact at all times.
2. Keep answers to all questions brief and don't hesitate.
3. Don't offer any extra info as they may try to test you on it.
4. Don't make any small talk.
5. Be prepared and offer required documents before being asked.
6. Be polite and answer with Sir or Madam.
7. Appear relaxed and clean cut if possible.
8. Don't make any remarks about the Border Guard's appearance or ethnicity.
9. Tell your passengers to keep quiet, alert and ready to answer questions asked.
10. Turn off radio.
11. Have receipts for declared purchases ready for inspection.
12. Smile but not too much.
 

Strannen

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Hide the contraban inside the car's air filter.
Scuff the new tires before you get to the border.
Tape the bags of cheap CDs up inside the wheel well.
Put the liquor inside the rear seat cushions.
Smile nice and wipe the sweat off your forehead.
 
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Verb

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well ...I can help you out a bit...

I use to work for the canadian customs when I was in college. The questions he asked you were normal and are within there training. When you cross the boarder at night, they tend to get alittle more skittish. When they suspect there is some bullshit to your story...Then the whole car gets searched and so on.

Just never lie to them and have evidence of what you have done in the states...

Oh yeah...after 2006, you are required to have a passport to enter and leave the US.
 

kylle

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boarder hassles

I used to get stopped and searched at the border every single time that I crossed. I asked why a boarder official why one time and he told me it was because I had a speaker box in my trunk and when they see those they have to pull you aside and search the car. I now take it out when I cross and there has been a DRAMATIC reduction in the number of car searches that I have had to endure when crossing the boarder.
 

dittman

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last year took the ferry over to victoria, last car in line to go through customs and low and behold they pull me over to the side and start asking me some silly questions. then i am told to get out of the car and i have to go into this building for an interview. he ask me if i have a criminal record, i tell him no(by this time im pissed), he says dont lie to us we can check it out, i tell him knock himself out.(all i want to do is get laid by some of the fabulous ladies in victoria) so he checks on his computer and finds out that i am clean as a whistle(what ever that means). So he releases me, I go back to my car and this big guy about 6'4" tall and about 250 says he wants to search my car, i tell him to have at it and when he starts i almost start laughing cause hes trying to crawl through my car and its an mr2, he finds nothing and i can finally be on my way after about an hour of hassling.
 

therealrex

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mustangjoe I'd think about getting a waiver if you want to keep crossing they can refuse you entry any time they want and once it happens it will be on your file and then they'll start refusing you everytime.
 

mustangjoe

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Yeah,

that's some good advice. I've must admit it's crossed my mind, but I've never bothered getting one becuase I always manage to get through.

I'm currently working on my pardon application, but I just learned that the USA does not recognzie or honor pardons.

The only time a pardon will help you is if you do not cross while you still have a record. If you corss then, they download your record and keep it in their database for life. However, if you are patient enough to not cross while you have a record (5+ years) (I was not) then it's ok. If you are pardoned and they run a check on you, it'll come up clean and they have no idea you've been a bad boy.

If I ever get denied entry, I'd be so srcrewed up th arse. I was born and lived all my life here in Canada, but with the exception of Vancouver this country is a dump. If I could not escape to Hawaii, Vegas, etc every once and a while I'd go nuts here. Just nuts.
 

eljudo

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another cross border trip tip


dont have a boner

and take a big phat dump before entering the U.S.. you never know how long its going to take to cross the border.
 

niteowl

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A few years ago I was going golfing with my friend and for the first time ever, I had my car searched before going south. Then it wasn't until my friend pointed out the the only people in the office (not behind the counters)were non-caucasians.









A dirty mind is a terrible thing to waste.
 

luckydog71

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Maury Beniowski said:
1. Maintain eye-to-eye contact at all times.
2. Keep answers to all questions brief and don't hesitate.
3. Don't offer any extra info as they may try to test you on it.
4. Don't make any small talk.
5. Be prepared and offer required documents before being asked.
6. Be polite and answer with Sir or Madam.
7. Appear relaxed and clean cut if possible.
8. Don't make any remarks about the Border Guard's appearance or ethnicity.
9. Tell your passengers to keep quiet, alert and ready to answer questions asked.
10. Turn off radio.
11. Have receipts for declared purchases ready for inspection.
12. Smile but not too much.
Good tips Maury. I will add 2 more

13 After dark turn on all interior lights before you get to the agent.
14 If you cross often get Nexus.
 

DJLAW

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i think i have it figured out. cross with old people. several years ago, i was crossing back into canada from bellingham from a day of visiting relatives. usually there is a little hassle. how long were you gone, how much you buy, you know, the usual questions. this time my mom was driving and my grandmother was in the front passenger seat. me and my brother were in the back behind tinted windows. the border guard looks at my mom and then looks at my grandmother and just waves us all through. no questions. not even a word. my brother and i were flabberghasted.
 

Beldar Conehead

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Last week I was heading down to Point Roberts to play some golf and when the customs dude asked where I was going I told him Mexico. He just laughed and warned me that kind of answer could have got a trip to the small room where they keep the rubber gloves. I got lucky and got a nice guy......my sphincter remains intact :eek:
 

mustangjoe

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everest said:
one more:

15. if you are totally innocent, you could use lots of garlic.

no one likes to deal with people with foul breath.

Why bother when you're innocent. I say you're better off with that method if you got 100 pounds of coke in the spare tire.
 

Herb_The_Perb

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everest said:
one more:
15. if you are totally innocent, you could use lots of garlic.
no one likes to deal with people with foul breath.
That's really funny. Just before crossing the border, i had a heavily spiced shawarma sandwich on Denman. Maybe it spared me some further interrogation.
 

bwaters

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Don't be eating an ice cream cone when you reach the gate. I've never had a problem either way and have always sailed right through. This one time I had an ice cream cone and the dude practically goes ballistic on me over it. Made me throw it away. I asked him if he had a garbage can in which to deposit it and he became more irate. I think they want to convey the message to everyone that this is a very serious matter, which it is.
 
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