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[the virgin gary]

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You told me you don't answer pm's on perb I wanted to talk to you but whatever,

Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it.

Have a nice life Vienna.

 

[Markl]

It is all fun and games until someone gets slapped with a restraining order.

You wrote once that you spent 18K in 6 months on this one girl!!!!....Yeah...she's comfortable seeing you.

But it sounds like you are happy to see her from time to time even if she has drawn a clear line so it is a win/win for both of you.

I never said that. I may have spent 18k or so, but it was over 10 months or more.

Still excessive, nod. I just don't care to see anyone else but her.

Ask DQ Guy, or HB40 how much they've spent this year on SPs, I am sure it'll be similar.

 

[rossedm34]

What I'm curious to know now is if my clients(and other SPs clients') who visit on a very regular basis, are actually genuinely enjoying themselves? Honestly TMF, you said that pretty much most of my clients deep down probably aren't happy when they leave because they actually want the whole "real connection" type thing? Now I'm starting to think that there's really no point then?

I've never actually had a session with you Vienna, just briefly met you once at Legends when I dropped in hoping for Dom (sadly, you were booked, and I had a crap massage with a lady no longer there. Oh well, dem's the breaks!) I think you bring up a good question here, about the emotions in this bizz.

I think even the most jaded would be lying if they said they never felt a connection with an SP. I don't think there would be mentions of all time favorites unless this happened. And because of the intimate nature of this "hobby", I don't think it would be wrong to say it's a "real connection" of some type, otherwise it would be "glorified masturbation" (ugly, ugly way of putting it) instead of a great time worthy of a repeat visit, etc.

The confusion that's happening is people not realizing that that connection is part of what is ultimately a business transaction. That's not to cheapen the act, the people or the situation, it's to understand that the feeling of a connection comes with a price. I don't think anyone would go to an SP if that connection didn't exist. Some of us "get it", and some of us on here clearly don't. MarkL's posts make it sound like he does not understand the boundaries of the transaction.

Can the SPs fake the connections? Of course they can. Does that mean the pooners are getting ripped off? Of course not. The Pooners have a choice, they don't have to go, and if they had an experience that left them wondering or feeling bad, then they certainly don't have to repeat. And if they really want a real relationship and feel honest "real world" emotions, they should ask non-SPs out for dates and see what happens. I really doubt most of the guys on here are so horrendous they can't get a date if they ask a girl out if they want a full time relationship in their life.

The SPs only have one real choice, to agree to see a client or not. Once they do agree, they should (and I'm sure most do) and are expected to try to make client feel fantastic for the agreed upon time. Sounds like a tough job to me without having to worry about creepy stalker stuff on top of it.

 

[Vienna]

I've never actually had a session with you Vienna, just briefly met you once at Legends when I dropped in hoping for Dom (sadly, you were booked, and I had a crap massage with a lady no longer there. Oh well, dem's the breaks!) I think you bring up a good question here, about the emotions in this bizz.

I think even the most jaded would be lying if they said they never felt a connection with an SP. I don't think there would be mentions of all time favorites unless this happened. And because of the intimate nature of this "hobby", I don't think it would be wrong to say it's a "real connection" of some type, otherwise it would be "glorified masturbation" (ugly, ugly way of putting it) instead of a great time worthy of a repeat visit, etc.

The confusion that's happening is people not realizing that that connection is part of what is ultimately a business transaction. That's not to cheapen the act, the people or the situation, it's to understand that the feeling of a connection comes with a price. I don't think anyone would go to an SP if that connection didn't exist. Some of us "get it", and some of us on here clearly don't. MarkL's posts make it sound like he does not understand the boundaries of the transaction.

Can the SPs fake the connections? Of course they can. Does that mean the pooners are getting ripped off? Of course not. The Pooners have a choice, they don't have to go, and if they had an experience that left them wondering or feeling bad, then they certainly don't have to repeat. And if they really want a real relationship and feel honest "real world" emotions, they should ask non-SPs out for dates and see what happens. I really doubt most of the guys on here are so horrendous they can't get a date if they ask a girl out if they want a full time relationship in their life.

The SPs only have one real choice, to agree to see a client or not. Once they do agree, they should (and I'm sure most do) and are expected to try to make client feel fantastic for the agreed upon time. Sounds like a tough job to me without having to worry about creepy stalker stuff on top of it.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. So I guess there really is no "answer" as to what to do or think with all of this. lol Wow, actually now that this has all been out it's actually more confusing to me for some reason. I don't know why, maybe it's because you seem to have mentioned certain things along with explaining them really well...? Fuck, I dunno. lol

So honestly then if you don't mind me asking, who do you think has it more tough in this situation? Some could say the client by what you've said, but then some could say the SP by other things too....I think it's just how it is and either you can handle it and truly enjoy it or you can't.

Maybe, it's so confusing that it's just how it is and that's it. Pretty sure we could go about this forever. lol And at some point we all have to sleep!!!

 

[jim]

Hey Jim, you got anything to wash down this popcorn?

We ran out of popcorn, so here's some more

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[Bobo The Rabbit]

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You told me you don't answer pm's on perb I wanted to talk to you but whatever,

Fuck it. Fuck it. Fuck it.

Have a nice life Vienna.

Are you being funny because the topic is stalkers or is that a honest post?

 

[GPguy]

I pay for them to leave....sounds like Markl should join a dateing website

 

[TooMuchFun22]

Well, that is a huge after tax pooning budget but good for those who can afford it and feel it is money well spent. I suppose it makes sense to see a sure thing in one provider rather than roll the dice.

I have to beleive that at $18,000 in 10 months the SP kept gritting her teeth and hoping that he wouldn't push it too far and force her to ask him to go the fuck away, becasue at $1,800 a month that is a Car Payment and Rent or Mortgage.

 

[rossedm34]

So honestly then if you don't mind me asking, who do you think has it more tough in this situation? Some could say the client by what you've said, but then some could say the SP by other things too....I think it's just how it is and either you can handle it and truly enjoy it or you can't.

Maybe, it's so confusing that it's just how it is and that's it. Pretty sure we could go about this forever. lol And at some point we all have to sleep!!!

Ha ha, I think that's it really. It's not like stamp collecting, it's a much more personal thing, so it effects each person intimately, on both sides. I could go on as to why I participate, but wont here. Feel free to PM me if your actually interested. I find this stuff fascinating from a human nature stand point, and could rattle on for ages.

Too answer your question though, honestly, I think it can be harder on the SP. A guy gets caught at the hobby, and he's embarrassed but ultimately he's doing what a guy does. It's much more acceptable. A woman involved in the industry is instantly stigmatized and morally questioned. Never mind the emotional toll that could take place. Never mind the personal issues that could arise. I'm sure that the placing over importance on the "connection" felt could happen with the SP just as easily as it could with the guy. And if it did happen, how many guys would actually date someone in the industry? (not a slam on the woman, just a societal moral views kind of question.)

I think you get more "crushy" guys on here posting then there really are, just because you have to be into this hobby to come here to the site in the first place. Probably blowing this whole thing out of proportion.

Other thing mentioned too, was guys leaving feeling bad about themselves after a session. I'm guessing from what I've sen on the board, if this is happening after one of your sessions, it's the guys issue not yours. Sometimes it can be hard to return to "real life" for some people after feeling that connection they crave. Which goes back to some people understanding the hobby, and some not... like a treadmill this is.

 

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