Finding Sugar Babies on Seeking Arrangement

[Belleyyc]

Lmao!
That's about right. I couldn't deal .. especially with guys like westcoast55 ( no offence) harassing me for dirt cheap p4p . Like WTF this isn't backpage.
But that's just me.
Again, seeking attachment has a whole lot of different kind of people looking for different kinds of arrangement.
No everyone on there is like me. And not everyone will be the "gem" you're all after it seems.

Good luck to everyone on there!
Like we say in Quebec: " à chaque torchon, sa guénille" lol. Every rag finds his dirty towel . Or something like that.

 

[westcoast555]

Lmao!
That's about right. I couldn't deal .. especially with guys like westcoast55 ( no offence) harassing me for dirt cheap p4p . Like WTF this isn't backpage.
But that's just me.
Again, seeking attachment has a whole lot of different kind of people looking for different kinds of arrangement.
No everyone on there is like me. And not everyone will be the "gem" you're all after it seems.

Good luck to everyone on there!
Like we say in Quebec: " à chaque torchon, sa guénille" lol. Every rag finds his dirty towel . Or something like that.

I don't "harrass" anybody and if you think $400 is dirt cheap P4P you must be very exclusive.
Also, not looking for pros on there.
SA is supposed to be for amateur girls not commercial SPs - that's what Backpage is for.

 

[Belleyyc]

No I just meant you're looking for p4p.
I mean dirt cheap like 250$ per visit.. :/

And like I said, I'm not on SA anymore. That was years ago before Belle was born! Lol

 

[Carus0]

I think westcoast555's point is valid and makes an important distinction... which is that guys who are into SA for what it can provide are not the same guys who are frequenting escorts. Without getting into a discussion about hotness and value and $ vs. whatever, there are (for some people) far more important distinctions. It's certainly more economical to get laid with an escort than a girl from SA (hundreds vs. thousands of dollars), but what you get for that price makes it worth it (for some people).

All things being equal, would I rather have sex with a girl who's exclusively having sex with me as opposed to 10 different men every night? I appreciate most people would answer yes, but understand it's an issue of economics. I chose a long time ago I'd rather spend a lot more money to get a different sort of girl and experience. A girl in university working on a graduate degree who spends all day at home studying or working and welcomes a once-a-week visit that brings her money and good conversation and a little fun with no strings attached... and provides enough money that she doesn't need (nor want) an arrangement like that with anyone else... that's a win-win for both.

Belle, you talk about your less-than-stellar experience on SA, but my question would be why would you expect otherwise? The clientele you seek wouldn't be found on there. In fact, the guys you find on SA are specifically not after what you're offering. I did find it amusing and telling to find escorts on SA... who on their ads charge familiar escort rates... but on SA are trying to pretend to be something they're not and trying to charge 10x as much.

 

[westcoast555]

No I just meant you're looking for p4p.
I mean dirt cheap like 250$ per visit.. :/

And like I said, I'm not on SA anymore. That was years ago before Belle was born! Lol

I've never offered or paid less than $300 per visit and I don't disrespect the girls or try to "low ball" them. I treat them with the utmost respect and the girls who don't want per dates sessions usually state so in their profile.

Also, for reasons discussed, I'm very skeptical about the arrangements that involve an allowance. It complicates things, introduces scheduling issues, exclusivity issues, and you are automatically risking being "played" like a cuckold.

The girls who are available for per date arrangements generally list themselves as "negotiable". This tends to work better for them as well because the girls I'm looking for on there are not commercial sex workers they are short on time - busy with work and school and just need help with the rent etc.

My suspicion is that both the men and the girls on SA who are looking for exclusive arrangements with substantial monthly allowances are apt to be disappointed because they're trying to play each other. Way too complicated. And any decent arrangement will probably be per date to start and evolve naturally if they really click.

 

[thetruth]

Funny...I have tried this website and have met one person and she's been fun to hang out with...she's not "hot" but good looking GND type and a little older...if 33 is old..haha...we meet occasionally...and are on a P2P arrangement...I only signed up for a one month introductory fee and haven't signed up since...but wanting to try some more...

on another note....just logged on and there's a girl there that has a picture that looks like it was taken at the Fox Den....she goes by Julie B and Asian

 

[westcoast555]

Funny...I have tried this website and have met one person and she's been fun to hang out with...she's not "hot" but good looking GND type and a little older...if 33 is old..haha...we meet occasionally...and are on a P2P arrangement...I only signed up for a one month introductory fee and haven't signed up since...but wanting to try some more...

on another note....just logged on and there's a girl there that has a picture that looks like it was taken at the Fox Den....she goes by Julie B and Asian

Kind funny, I know Julie. I actually told her about the site

 

[HunkyBill]

All things being equal, would I rather have sex with a girl who's exclusively having sex with me as opposed to 10 different men every night? .

It's all about one's perception, isn't it? Unless you have someone following the girl's every move, you're not going to know if she's screwing other guys as well. I don't think one should ever assume anyone on SA is exclusive.

 

[westcoast555]

It's all about one's perception, isn't it? Unless you have someone following the girl's every move, you're not going to know if she's screwing other guys as well. I don't think one should ever assume anyone on SA is exclusive.

Absolutely... but one can count on the SA girls being much lower in volume than a commercial SP. But you're almost certainly not getting exclusivity.

 

[HunkyBill]

Of course

Many of the popular women/girls in micros are booked solid and see one client after another. However, one can argue the ones in the micro may know how to play the "safety" game better than those on SA.

 

[SInCity67]

The hot girls know their worth on SA and will say I get offered this and that . Tessa Star is the benchmark for what $400 should get you . If a girl tells me she's not into p4p but is fucked atm ( I'm sure you guys know all the excuses what the girls say on the site , I'm short on rent this month ,ect...) , I don't mind paying top dollar for a hot amatuer ( up to $500 per fuck ) but she is still a escort doing p4p and should be rated as such . And trust me ,they get mad as fuck when you start negotiating prices with them and use escort prices to tell them . Say you paid $400 first visit but she stayed less than a hour but now she's always hitting you up for that $$$$ fuck , you should be able to come back to a reasonable offer for $250 HH , which is higher than what high class escorts use .


Pros of SA:
You find a gem , a hot 18-20 year old blonde , who will fuck you for a reasonable offer . Isn't crazy and not trying to be wifey .
I see on average one SA girl every three months so I screen 99% out even if the deal was reasonable in my favour . In the last year I spent roughly 4 grand on SA and saw only 7 girls . Some were free fucks , some costed me a lot of money , like Jimmy choo's ect ( worth it for that prime pussy sometimes )

Cons of SA :
$100 monthly fee
A ton of average girls on the site now , so many 6's , it makes me want to throw up . Like it upsets me when a girl DM's me for money and she's a 5 but since tinder and IG , the white knights made her think she's a 9 and deserves to be treated like a princess . I have to put it in my profile . Only 20 years old and younger ,slim body and pretty face are allowed to DM me and if you don't fit this, you will be blocked . It's amazing how these girls still msg you :
1 about a minute ago
I may be 22 and glow-less, but thought I might favorite you anyway. :rofl:


They bug you 24/7 when you gave them your number , this could be a good thing depending on what your lifestyle is like >Last year it was fun but now I'm working 14 hour days , 6 days a week and have no time for 19 year old girl problems .
The flake rate is insane , the girl calls you , picks the day and time but she still flakes on you the last minute because her moral issues of feeling like a hooker has come in and now want's a monthly allowance. This is like after months of talking back and forth.

 

[badbadboy]

^^^

Thanks for the post. It explains a lot that I was hoping to find in this thread.

 

[Belleyyc]

Belle, you talk about your less-than-stellar experience on SA, but my question would be why would you expect otherwise? The clientele you seek wouldn't be found on there. In fact, the guys you find on SA are specifically not after what you're offering.

Isn't that what SA's branding is though?
Where do these clients live then? What do they eat during the winter?

 

[Carus0]

For some looking to pay to have sex, the typical route is an escort or a massage parlour. Wide-sweeping assumptions (not all true) can be made about the types of girls that implies... and I don't say that with any implied negativity, just a matter of preference. I want to be sure I'm not having sex with a pro, or a trafficked girl or someone doing it against their will or whatever... for example. Or, let's flip it around... I want to have a girl, be exclusivish and not have to worry about LE breaking in, sting operations, less risk of STI and so on. And I'm willing to pay more.

Me as an example; I'm not in the market for an escort for what we can call my own reasons. SA offers a different product; one more in-line with what I'm after.

Again, it's not a matter of better or worse, just preference. I see some messages above that try to peg some sort of magic dollars-for-hotness scale, and I can simply say that's the total opposite of how I view it. If the hottest girl on the planet offered herself to me for $10 (and to 1,000 other men) I would simply say no thanks.

Let's say you are the finest chef in the word, having worked in the finest restaurants in the world... but you want something different, so you wander into McDonalds and ask if they'll hire you. Sure, they say, but you'll be flipping burgers and frying fries. No No, you say... why cook that crap... I can do so much better. Yah, they'll say... so go do it... somewhere else... because this isn't the place for you. You have nothing in common with it except... well, food.

 

[westcoast555]

For some looking to pay to have sex, the typical route is an escort or a massage parlour. Wide-sweeping assumptions (not all true) can be made about the types of girls that implies... and I don't say that with any implied negativity, just a matter of preference. I want to be sure I'm not having sex with a pro, or a trafficked girl or someone doing it against their will or whatever... for example. Or, let's flip it around... I want to have a girl, be exclusivish and not have to worry about LE breaking in, sting operations, less risk of STI and so on. And I'm willing to pay more.

Me as an example; I'm not in the market for an escort for what we can call my own reasons. SA offers a different product; one more in-line with what I'm after.

Again, it's not a matter of better or worse, just preference. I see some messages above that try to peg some sort of magic dollars-for-hotness scale, and I can simply say that's the total opposite of how I view it. If the hottest girl on the planet offered herself to me for $10 (and to 1,000 other men) I would simply say no thanks.

Let's say you are the finest chef in the word, having worked in the finest restaurants in the world... but you want something different, so you wander into McDonalds and ask if they'll hire you. Sure, they say, but you'll be flipping burgers and frying fries. No No, you say... why cook that crap... I can do so much better. Yah, they'll say... so go do it... somewhere else... because this isn't the place for you. You have nothing in common with it except... well, food.

Sounds like we've had similar experiences and are in agreement. Again... I really think it bears repeating - for the "Sex Marketplace" this whole SA/Sugar Baby thing is a big change and I really do see a parallel between Air BnB and hotels and Uber/Lyft for Taxis.

It's technology disrupting the marketplace. It's so easy now for a girl who is curious to safely, confidentially and easily connect with guys who are willing to pay and they don't have to set up their own website, expose themselves as SPs, get mixed up with "handlers" or pimps, work with an 'agency', get into situations where they have to have sex with guys they don't like etc.

As long as they do a little screening they can make a little extra cash and keep the volume low and have some fun. But as you noted, it ain't gonna work for guys who are paying to have sex because they have physical limitations or social/psychological liabilities.

I used to drool over the waitresses at Cactus Club/ Earl's. Now I find out that half of them are on the SA site and game for a little discreet play. It's a big change in the sex trade.

 

[papillion]

Funny...I have tried this website and have met one person and she's been fun to hang out with...she's not "hot" but good looking GND type and a little older...if 33 is old..haha...we meet occasionally...and are on a P2P arrangement...I only signed up for a one month introductory fee and haven't signed up since...but wanting to try some more...

Lots of guy chase the 20 y.o. hotties, but I've had better luck with MAture babes.
Women get a little less crazy, a bit more accepting, less discriminating in their 30s and 40s.

 

[thetruth]

$300 per meet seems to be the norm on here or at least they can be negotiated to $300. Seems like only the men searching for sugar babies have to pay the membership fees to communicate with them. Sugar babies can communicate for free.

 

[sevenofnine]

you know if you find a women (sp) you like and you stick with her, it kind of ends up to be the best of both worlds., the best of everything actually.

you both have to like each other and all of that etc etc,
trust especially,

seriously
there is no clock issues money issues service issues.
she is going on a trip next month, to her place, she has down south im invited,, all the hassle just disappears.

like I said the biggest issue is trust, and not forcing anything. we both mutually have to get our head around something. not one of us pressing the issues
and it eventually becomes a silly non issue

I think a lot of people just want to play each other and get the most out of it for themselves. shit like that is never going to work,,

you have to be there for the company the friendship etc,
if the most important thing is the money and how much you can fuck her, and the ways you can fuck her,
then you might as well pay by the hour and the service and be done with it.

 

[SInCity67]

The price of the day always depends on what shiny thing the girl wants to buy that day . You say not interested , they come back with a lower price .

 

[Belleyyc]

you have to be there for the company the friendship etc,
if the most important thing is the money and how much you can fuck her, and the ways you can fuck her,
then you might as well pay by the hour and the service and be done with it.

Correct.
Be nice to me and treat me with respect and as an equal and I'll fuck the crap out of you and maul you until you beg me to stop.
That's what people don't understand.