Finally! UBER coming to BC
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Uber is part/sort of carpooling as you mentioned from your previous argument(s).
Actually I disputed the point. BBB was emphasizing the sharing aspect. I was likening it to an alternative taxi service
Great post.
I also like the ability to view the driver's rating by previous passengers. You can choose your higher rated driver and vice verse, they can choose a higher rated passenger too.
So if you are a polite courteous passenger and they have a great record its win win IMHO.
I also like the ability to view the driver's rating by previous passengers. You can choose your higher rated driver and vice verse, they can choose a higher rated passenger too.
So if you are a polite courteous passenger and they have a great record its win win IMHO.
I have no idea what you actually mean? Unless you are just being dismissive.Exactly like I said in the past posts, IT'S ALL POLITICS PEOPLE!
Perhaps mercyshooter is being politically correct and doesn't want to name the ethnic group that is tied to the taxi industry in the Lower Mainland.
An example: A few years ago Burnaby was going to issue 50 new taxi licenses. Since Bonnys already had all but 6 of the licenses in Burnaby, a company called Burnaby Select Taxis thought that they should get at least half of the new licenses. The owner of Burnaby Select made the error of observing that Bonnys was owned and it's drivers were members, overwhelmingly, of one ethnic group. Bonnys ensured that Burnaby Council was aware of Burnaby Select's racism and all of the licenses went to Bonnys. The ethnic group that controls Bonnys also is the ethnic group with the largest proportion of the membership of the BCA. The BCA has owned every seat on council, every seat on School Board and the Mayor's chair for the past 30 years.
So yes, taxi licenses are political. Taxi licenses are a way of providing living wage jobs to people that have language difficulties and skill deficiencies. One of the Principles of Bonnys once told me that his entire village had immigrated to Canada and had their first employment at Bonnys. Of course he was going to defend that ability to do good for his community.
Sikhs are not apathetic. They are involved in politics at all levels and in all political parties because they know that politics is the path to having the power to insist on acceptance of their community. The Chinese are just beginning to realize this, but they haven't done the work yet to unify their various groups.
I respect what your saying, but my read of mercyshooter's comment was that opinions that were opposed to Uber moving into our market could just be dismissed because they were politically motivated or out of self interest. My reasons are exactly the opposite, I don't appreciate a corporation trying to impose their business model on me and my community without any regard for the existing rules, regulations and protections. If Uber wanted to meet all the existing requirements and compete on a level playing field with the taxi industry, I would accept them with open arms.
My Canada is worth more to me than a few dollars I would save on cab fare.
My Canada is worth more to me than a few dollars I would save on cab fare.
It's because of the not-working existing requirements that costs Uber to be famous and competitive in the majority people's perspective. The existing requirements are outdated! If you change the existing requirements to keep the concept of competition up-to-date, then this will minimize the taxis' benefits/profits as a whole. Not all governments like this because the risk of unemployment in this career will become high. Then, the political parties supporting this outdated model will lose the next election. Then......
So, it's all POLITICS!
So let's summarize as you agree with the following:
The taxi association mandates prices throughout the region. Competitors to their monopoly are not welcome. The three main taxi companies ponyed up $150K to Visions election campaign to ensure the city would not allow Uber to compete.
Multi Millionaires own the taxi licenses and pay their drivers minimum wage. Any change to the system would devalue their investments.
Uber on the other hand takes 28% of each ride. The Uber driver keeps the rest as wages, payment of expenses and insurances.
I'd say you are actually protecting the interests of a monopoly's status quo by saying you want to pay a few extra bucks to the millionaires owning the licenses. The drivers certainly don't benefit with the system now.
Well done! Now you know why Canada can't compete on many things. Look at our fundamental foundations. Expensive and useless!
This argument is becoming circuitous.
So you and mercy are saying that because Vision is not interested in having an unlicensed, unregulated, uninsured, non-taxpaying commercial car service operating within its jurisdiction, it is corrupt. Or is it only corrupt because the taxi industry made a political contribution of $150,000 to Vision? Corruption would actually only be present if the taxi companies had said: Vision, here is $150,000, you now owe us, stop Uber. Very easy to suggest, but very hard to prove and without proof it's basically slander. More often, individuals and businesses (including myself) make political contributions to candidates and political parties that best represent or share their ideology. And there is no crime in expressing your interests and concerns to a political candidate or an elected politician.
Taxi licenses have increased in value (like detached homes in Vancouver). If Uber wants to operate here, why don't they purchase existing licenses (like buyers of real estate purchase homes) or lobby the provincial and municipal government to issue new licenses (which the taxi industry has already lobbied for unsuccessfully...hmmm didn't you suggest the politicians were in bed with the industry). If new licenses were issued, they could be sold at market price to the highest bidder (like the federal government sells bandwidth) and could create a windfall for government revenue. Your logic to simply void the taxi licenses would be equivalent to ripping up the deeds of west side properties because you want to live there.
I don't understand why paying a cab fare which results in a wage for the driver and a potential profit for the license holder (a local millionaire assuming all of the operating costs) is less palatable, then paying an Uber driver 72% of the fare (less all operating expenses and risk) and the non-tax paying American billionaires 28% of the fare (for using an app).
As far as benefit for the actual drivers is concerned, I know some taxi drivers moonlight for Uber, but if it is so superior to driving cab, why would they not all drive exclusively for Uber? In fact, why are there any cab drivers remaining in cities where Uber exists? Why are they protesting?
I want to pay my few extra bucks to feel safe and protected while I ride in, or share the road with, a vehicle driven by a driver that is registered, licensed, insured and paying taxes. On another note, I also don't shop at Walmart.
Simply put, the current model like you mention doesn't benefit everyone. It's like I'm giving you something for free but to you, this thing is completely useless and just a pain in the ass. Uber has everything you said, the politicians just have to amend the laws to adapt to this up-to-date model. They don't wanna do this because they don't wanna piss of their supporters.
You don't shop at Walmart because you are used to pay way expensive money to get the same quality of the exact same product. Step out of Canada and look around the world. There are top quality products that cost less than here in Canada.
Like I said, you don't exactly know how modern politics works.
Uber to be up an running December 2017!
Finally!
The provincial government has unveiled a framework that could finally allow Uber into British Columbia. Ride sharing will be coming to B.C. by Dec 9th. Transportation Minister Todd Stone and TransLink Minister Peter Fassbender made the announcement at a news conference in downtown Vancouver. They are touting the change as a modernization of the taxi industry. Last week, the province confirmed it would have an answer on the ride sharing industry before the May 9 vote.
Finally!
The provincial government has unveiled a framework that could finally allow Uber into British Columbia. Ride sharing will be coming to B.C. by Dec 9th. Transportation Minister Todd Stone and TransLink Minister Peter Fassbender made the announcement at a news conference in downtown Vancouver. They are touting the change as a modernization of the taxi industry. Last week, the province confirmed it would have an answer on the ride sharing industry before the May 9 vote.
while i'm glad for uber finally being allowed to come, the only reason this was announced was to take the attention off of the donation scandal that hit yesterday. gotta divert attention from christy clark the criminal.
Uber will have lost as much as $5 BILLION by the end of this year.
How long can they sustain losses like this?
What's their grand plan once they kll off cab companies? Think it will benefit the consumer?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-third-quarter-on-1-7-billion-in-net-revenue
How long can they sustain losses like this?
What's their grand plan once they kll off cab companies? Think it will benefit the consumer?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-third-quarter-on-1-7-billion-in-net-revenue
