erm. what's the going rate...

[Snoopy99]

per aforementioned...
just wondering if there's a going rate for fs.
i know... it depends on the sp...
normally i get quotes around 220... if you want DATY then it goes to 260...
that sorta thing.
if you guys wouldn't mind dropping me a pm, i'd like to know if there's a counter-offer (LOL) to these sorta negotiations.

cheers mate!

 

[bulworth]

let me know as well. coming from calgary, i have no idea what to expect at an MP in edmonton.

 

[gabrielle]

prices...

prices seem to range from 220 to 240. gfe from 260 to 300 (daty and/or kissing), greek from 350 to 400, russian from 180 to 200. there are always going to be 'deals' or undercutting or studios that are just cheaper... then on the other hand you'll encounter studios or girls who charge slightly more... then the 'talented' few who will nickel and dime you until theres nothing left in your wallet.

the top studios in the city seem to have 'studio pricing', which is great... it protects both the clients and the SPs. supreme spa is one of those studios... i can't speak from experience about the others, and i don't want to talk for them, but like i said- the top studios have top standards, period.

i hope this helps a bit.

kisses,
gabrielle xxx

 

[ymmvguy]

What do you mean by "Studio Pricing"?

prices seem to range from 220 to 240. gfe from 260 to 300 (daty and/or kissing), greek from 350 to 400, russian from 180 to 200. there are always going to be 'deals' or undercutting or studios that are just cheaper... then on the other hand you'll encounter studios or girls who charge slightly more... then the 'talented' few who will nickel and dime you until theres nothing left in your wallet.

the top studios in the city seem to have 'studio pricing', which is great... it protects both the clients and the SPs. supreme spa is one of those studios... i can't speak from experience about the others, and i don't want to talk for them, but like i said- the top studios have top standards, period.

i hope this helps a bit.

kisses,
gabrielle xxx

 

[TooMuchFun22]

prices seem to range from 220 to 240. gfe from 260 to 300 (daty and/or kissing), greek from 350 to 400, russian from 180 to 200. there are always going to be 'deals' or undercutting or studios that are just cheaper... then on the other hand you'll encounter studios or girls who charge slightly more... then the 'talented' few who will nickel and dime you until theres nothing left in your wallet.

the top studios in the city seem to have 'studio pricing', which is great... it protects both the clients and the SPs. supreme spa is one of those studios... i can't speak from experience about the others, and i don't want to talk for them, but like i said- the top studios have top standards, period.

i hope this helps a bit.

kisses,
gabrielle xxx

Gabrielle, I am a big fan of your Avatar. Is that avaiable anywhere in 8" x 10"?

And your quote "the talented few" there are a few girls that really are all about the hustle, but in reality Edmotnon is in a good spot with regards to that, we are lucky it is a "talented few"

 

[gabrielle]

studio pricing

is where all the girls in a studio have set prices for services. its to maintain fair competition between the girls and really does prevent a shitload of chaos.

without it, you get girls undercharging and causing huge issues at work. or girls overcharging which isn't cool to do to the guys... and will tarnish a studios reputation, bad for business.

for example, we used to have an issue with girls who provided gfe services (before gfe was even popular), but didn't charge extra. when you have girls who choose not to provide gfe for whatever reason (usually comfort level), and the next girl does gfe... and they both charge the same... big problems. its not fair to the girl who isn't so open minded, she just can't compete.

hope this helps.

kisses,
gabrielle xxx

 

[Mick Shagher]

without it, you get girls undercharging and causing huge issues at work. or girls overcharging which isn't cool to do to the guys... and will tarnish a studios reputation, bad for business.

In general studio pricing might sound like a good idea, but is it really fair that a girl with a shitty attitude and service demands the same price as a gal who is great in the room? It seems to reward the bad SPs and penalize the good ones.
Generally in life doesn't someone who excels at their job usually get paid more?

It was my understanding that at every SP in a studio was basically a general contractor and not an employee. So why shouldn't she be able to ask for what she is comfortable with or think she deserves?

 

[CalgaryJenn]

per aforementioned...
just wondering if there's a going rate for fs.
i know... it depends on the sp...
normally i get quotes around 220... if you want DATY then it goes to 260...
that sorta thing.
if you guys wouldn't mind dropping me a pm, i'd like to know if there's a counter-offer (LOL) to these sorta negotiations.

cheers mate!

Your getting charged extra for DATY? Your getting burnt! Next you'll get charged extra for her to open the door and let you in.

 

[Mick Shagher]

Your getting charged extra for DATY? Your getting burnt! Next you'll get charged extra for her to open the door and let you in.

Actually Jenn this seems to be a common practice at MPs in Edmonton along with charging extra for every other service provided. Something I strongly disagree with.
Personally if I see an SP who includes such services in her standard price she will be getting a lot of my buisness down the road rather than the gals that nickle and dime you.

 

[CalgaryJenn]

Actually Jenn this seems to be a common practice at MPs in Edmonton along with charging extra for every other service provided. Something I strongly disagree with.
Personally if I see an SP who includes such services in her standard price she will be getting a lot of my buisness down the road rather than the gals that nickle and dime you.

You boys in E-Town should start seeing Indy's more often. I'm pretty sure they usually include DATY.
FULL SERVICE is just that. FULL SERVICE. Otherwise, they should be advertising HALF SERVICE with extras available at a cost.

 

[Mick Shagher]

FULL SERVICE is just that. FULL SERVICE. Otherwise, they should be advertising HALF SERVICE with extras available at a cost.

Amen to that sister!!! Just wish more gals in the buisness thought like you.

 

[wolverine]

Historically in most cases at Edmonton MPs, Full Service meant a massage, BJ and vaginal sex to completion, with DATY, GFE anal and other extras provided at the provider's discretion (cost and availability varied).

 

[moi]

Well Jenn,

you may think it is unfair to the clients, however in a studio setting, some girls do NOT provide GFE therefore we DO have set rates such as $180-200 oral, $220-260 FS. That keeps the business fair for all the girls.

Other girls who provide other services such as greek, etc. under the studio rules do have to charge extra as it will not be fair to the rest of the girls who do not provide those services.

As Indies they can charge and add whatever they like but working for someone with other girls we try to take care of each other

 

[gabrielle]

i really appreciate the comment from moi

thats exactly it. just being fair to the girls in a studio setting is key. you guys really have no idea how the SPs who don't provide GFE and other extras view and treat the SPs who do. it can be brutal. there are serious politics to deal with and life at work can be made very difficult. there is a weird attitude that the girl who doesn't do this or that is better than the one who does. the other girl is 'dirty' or what have you. or she's 'cheap'. or both.
if you're an indy you have no one to deal with, so yeah, you can charge and do whatever you're comfortable with.

i don't like the idea of nickel and diming guys, nor do most other girls i work with, but straight up, if i charge the same for GFE as i do fs, which is the same that the other girls at work charge for fs... you think i'm not going to be way busier?? how can the girl next to me compete? its just not fair, and i want the girl next to me to make her money too. i do not want to monopolize... as all of us girls have made serious sacrifices (and are well rewarded, mind you) to be here and i would hate to drive others out of business.

as well, i believe that my GFE services, greek, and so forth are actually worth more than my fs. just like my reverse is worth more than my nude and so forth. you guys don't agree? i also don't want to offer and perform some of my extra services for every single guy who comes through the door to see me. i do know that some SPs do enjoy making out with every guy, that its comfortable for them and it gets them business, and thats cool.

this leads me to another idea, kind of off topic...i don't personally understand that level of acting (not all SPs act...no fights here). i'm talking about what i have seen first hand from a particular SP who used to work for supreme (no longer however). to her credit, guys who liked her, who bought it, probably felt like a million bucks when they left. she made other guys sick, as they found her fake. how can an SP be so into every client? i've always had such hard time with this whole thing... and you guys know it. its like, i couldn't pretend to save my life. i mean, its been great for business but also bad at times. i don't need to have physical chemistry with a client, like think he's hot. i do, however, need to have other 'chemistry'... usually personality. to be honest, it seems like the 'hot' guys usually lack in the personality department, so the looks just wear thin super quick. lol. anyhow, is there not something to be said for an SP genuinely enjoying your company? or do guys just want the act and the cookie cutter session for all? where does personal service come in and being a regular who gets treated better than when he wasn't? i have always read how guys don't want fake and want personal service and to feel special... so how do you get that from girls who give it all to every client? is that what you guys really want?

i really hope i haven't offended anyone. i really just am curious. i do not look down upon what any girl offers for service or what she chooses to charge. we all have to be able to sleep at night, and i am very aware that we all have our limits, and i respect that. i also do not look down upon any of you guys, what you think is fair to pay and what you expect from your SP. it takes us all to make the world go around.

kisses,
gabrielle xxx

 

[Extreme April]

No disrespect hun...But I am beginning to think I am a rarity.....As every one of my cllients gets the EXACT same treatment as the next. Do you think that they are wondering how many other clients that you do this too while you are doing it to them? I dont think so...I have clients that have come back and seen me and cant beleive the level of service has never gone down and it is always what they were looking for...consistancy. As for me getting off on every client....welll yes i do. They have a cock and that is all that matters to me. Makes no difference as to who the cock is attatched to it. I shut my eyes and go with it. Enjoying everything about that guy. There was only one client that I didnt get off with and that was because he was very rough and hurt me. But that was the only one. My special clients that I really like, know the difference between how I treat them and how they used to be treated when they first came to see me. But I am ALWAYS happy with every client that I see with the exception of that one. And there is no faking it here. The massage is my foreplay...So by the time I am done with their massage....I am so horned up...theres no need to fake it.
I also had it in my mind and correct me if I am wrong here....but are the clients buying our time to pretend or roleplay as their gf? Should we then not be doing more GF type of experience? And I am probably going to be attacked for this but i feel it has to be said..... If you have so many limitations...then why are you in this business then. And I am not talking about you girls having to do PSE or GF experience. But stating things like..."I only let my man do that....or this act is for my man only" No this is wrong...your heart belongs to your man. You are in a profession where you are selling your body....not your heart.

Well that is my two cents worth and I am sure I am going to be blasted for this post but it is just my opinion and please respect that it is just my opinion. Just another SP

Anyways, everyone watch out for those tornados and have a great and happy day.

love and laughs
April

thats exactly it. just being fair to the girls in a studio setting is key. you guys really have no idea how the SPs who don't provide GFE and other extras view and treat the SPs who do. it can be brutal. there are serious politics to deal with and life at work can be made very difficult. there is a weird attitude that the girl who doesn't do this or that is better than the one who does. the other girl is 'dirty' or what have you. or she's 'cheap'. or both.
if you're an indy you have no one to deal with, so yeah, you can charge and do whatever you're comfortable with.

i don't like the idea of nickel and diming guys, nor do most other girls i work with, but straight up, if i charge the same for GFE as i do fs, which is the same that the other girls at work charge for fs... you think i'm not going to be way busier?? how can the girl next to me compete? its just not fair, and i want the girl next to me to make her money too. i do not want to monopolize... as all of us girls have made serious sacrifices (and are well rewarded, mind you) to be here and i would hate to drive others out of business.

as well, i believe that my GFE services, greek, and so forth are actually worth more than my fs. just like my reverse is worth more than my nude and so forth. you guys don't agree? i also don't want to offer and perform some of my extra services for every single guy who comes through the door to see me. i do know that some SPs do enjoy making out with every guy, that its comfortable for them and it gets them business, and thats cool.

this leads me to another idea, kind of off topic...i don't personally understand that level of acting (not all SPs act...no fights here). i'm talking about what i have seen first hand from a particular SP who used to work for supreme (no longer however). to her credit, guys who liked her, who bought it, probably felt like a million bucks when they left. she made other guys sick, as they found her fake. how can an SP be so into every client? i've always had such hard time with this whole thing... and you guys know it. its like, i couldn't pretend to save my life. i mean, its been great for business but also bad at times. i don't need to have physical chemistry with a client, like think he's hot. i do, however, need to have other 'chemistry'... usually personality. to be honest, it seems like the 'hot' guys usually lack in the personality department, so the looks just wear thin super quick. lol. anyhow, is there not something to be said for an SP genuinely enjoying your company? or do guys just want the act and the cookie cutter session for all? where does personal service come in and being a regular who gets treated better than when he wasn't? i have always read how guys don't want fake and want personal service and to feel special... so how do you get that from girls who give it all to every client? is that what you guys really want?

i really hope i haven't offended anyone. i really just am curious. i do not look down upon what any girl offers for service or what she chooses to charge. we all have to be able to sleep at night, and i am very aware that we all have our limits, and i respect that. i also do not look down upon any of you guys, what you think is fair to pay and what you expect from your SP. it takes us all to make the world go around.

kisses,
gabrielle xxx

 

[123barney]

You are damn hot April. I hope I get to see you next time i visit edmonton.

 

[Mick Shagher]

I also had it in my mind and correct me if I am wrong here....but are the clients buying our time to pretend or roleplay as their gf? Should we then not be doing more GF type of experience? ..... If you have so many limitations...then why are you in this business then. And I am not talking about you girls having to do PSE or GF experience. But stating things like..."I only let my man do that....or this act is for my man only" No this is wrong...your heart belongs to your man. You are in a profession where you are selling your body....not your heart.

April

Again April, you are the voice of reason. I couldn't agree with you more.

To me the math is easy. Let's say that I have two SPs who I both enjoy being with. Am I going to have more sessions with SP #1 who charges me an extra $30 to give her a massage, an extra $50 for kissing her, an extra $50 for DATY, and so on and so on, or am I going to see SP #2 who enjoys what she's doing and enjoys my company and is more than willing to provide some or all these services as part of her basic F/S price?
To me it seems like a no brainer.

And by the way. As mentioned in a previous post by Calgary Jenn (another gal who gets it) on another thread, doesn't Full Service mean just that? Full Sevice!! Otherwise shouldn't S/Ps be advertising it as Partial Service (P/S) with add ons?

 

[moi]

Full Service means different things to different girls and you can't blast a girl for that. Some are comfortable with greek, which they include in the Full Service, some are not.

I just started in the MP scene and have noticed some girls who do perform GFE.
I have a question. With guys that frequent PERB etc, I'm sure they see ALOT of girls and almost all want more bang for their buck. So where does safety come in with all of this? Isn't it very dangerous with all of us having as many bed mates as we do that the exchange of bodily fluids is even more risky? I'm sure it's all nice n stuff for the clients which is why they pay more, but....
I really don't get it. Am I missing something here?

Again April, you are the voice of reason. I couldn't agree with you more.



And by the way. As mentioned in a previous post by Calgary Jenn (another gal who gets it) on another thread, doesn't Full Service mean just that? Full Sevice!! Otherwise shouldn't S/Ps be advertising it as Partial Service (P/S) with add ons?

 

[CalgaryJenn]

And by the way. As mentioned in a previous post by Calgary Jenn (another gal who gets it) on another thread, doesn't Full Service mean just that? Full Sevice!! Otherwise shouldn't S/Ps be advertising it as Partial Service (P/S) with add ons?

Thats exactly it. FULL SERVICE = Full menu, everything is offered. Otherwise, it's a partial service. What next, offering blowjobs and conversation will now be considered FULL SERVICE?
The term FULL SERVICE is used too loosely in the industry, because full service isn't always offered.
Would you pull into a FULL SERVICE gas pump and expect to pump your own gas? And even if you do, you feel jilted in a way. If thats what some are considering FULL SERVICE, your going to have a lot of guys saving their money, and using the SELF SERVE pump.

If your not going to offer all services with FULL SERVICE, advertise PARTIAL SERVICE with extras (DATY, DATO, DFK, a kick in the nuts) at a cost.
Help make the industry .01% more honest, and offer up what is being advertised. Your not a car dealership. You don't have to charge more for air conditioning, ash tray, and a CD player. They advertise those as FULLY LOADED!
A lot of the time, saying DATY is extra, is a free ticket for some to get out of having to do it. Not with all girls, but with some.

 

[CalgaryJenn]

So where does safety come in with all of this? Isn't it very dangerous with all of us having as many bed mates as we do that the exchange of bodily fluids is even more risky? I'm sure it's all nice n stuff for the clients which is why they pay more, but....
I really don't get it. Am I missing something here?

Then don't advertise it as FULL SERVICE. Advertise it as ALMOST THERE BUT NOT QUITE due to health and safety. Thats like saying personal health costs $50 more. Thats insane. Especially if it's an agency decision. Is the agency saying, "Offer everything because your health is worth $50. Otherwise, no dice!"
Full Service is Full Service.
This won't make me any friends, but for the most part, SP's will get as much as they can. If it means charging extra for something that most guys want to do, they will. Of course SP's are going to side with the idea and the play on words that FULL SERVICE doesn't include such things as DATY and that it should be extra. Myself, I don't agree with it. But thats just me. Everybody is different. I just find it misleading to say full service, and then charge extra for something that is commonly asked for in a full service call. Pretty soon, girls will charge $50 per inch that slides into her, because full service means only the cockhead gets in. Everything after that is extra.