Call me what you will, but in this instance I am 100% with the police. The ethnic group in question seems to have unreasonable expectations regarding what the government should do for them, and is not taking responsibility for the fact that their sons have turned to crime (as opposed to honest but lower-paying work) as their way ahead in Canada. They can fuck off, so far as I'm concerned.
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One day after a lead detective vented his frustration over what he deems lack of cooperation from witnesses in the city's latest homicide, friction continues between members of Edmonton's Somali community and officers trying to solve the case.
Bill Clark met with media on Sunday, arguing people inside the Papyrus Restaurant and Lounge saw who pulled the trigger in the early hours of New Year's Day, killing a 23-year-old man identified by friends as Muhammad Mahood Jama, and injuring another.
"We know the individual in hospital knows who shot him, he won't talk. We know there are other people inside who saw the suspect," he said. "Of all the people we interviewed, one person provides a suspect description - absolutely ludicrous."
Clark's anger stems in part from what he sees as a lack of trust between local Somalis and police after a substantial amount of resources were invested to improve the relationship. In the wake of dozens homicides that claimed young men from the community in the past several years, the city responded with several town hall meetings, sports tournaments, an African Centre and other efforts to elicit change. Edmonton also created 18 organizations to help facilitate integration.
"So when we hear people in the Somali community and these ethnic communities complaining about city administration it frustrates us," said Clark on Sunday.
But Ilham Ahmed, a board member of the Somalia Community Centre, argues police are wrong to pin all the responsibility on the community.
"Why do we have to look for our own criminals?" she asked. "What I see is negligence from the police community because when you are trained to investigate a murder you are not supposed to be make special - a criminal is a criminal. He doesn't have a face, he doesn't have a race."
City councillor Amarjeet Sohi is calling on witnesses to come forward in the New Year's day homicide, but also argues it's important to find out why there is resistance.
"If there is a demand from the community that these homicides, these murders, need to be solved, then people need to cooperate," he said. "On the other hand we need to figure out why people are not cooperating, why people feel scared. Is there not enough support from police? I think there is but people need to be made aware."
The province's immigration minister agrees with that sentiment, arguing members of the Somali community need to utilize supports already in existence.
"The resources are in place, all they have to do is reach out and use them," said Thomas Lukasik. "If there is an integration problem then we will focus on it. I think we are doing what we can. There has to be some impetus from the Somali community, willingness to want to integrate. I'm not sensing that there isn't."
Still, Ahmed argues there is a sense of isolation in the Somali community, and a sense of disconnect between her culture and the city at large. She says she struggles to feel at home, even 20 years after immigrating to the country.
"Nothing has been done for this community. We are left on our own," she said.
With Files from Kevin Armstrong
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One day after a lead detective vented his frustration over what he deems lack of cooperation from witnesses in the city's latest homicide, friction continues between members of Edmonton's Somali community and officers trying to solve the case.
Bill Clark met with media on Sunday, arguing people inside the Papyrus Restaurant and Lounge saw who pulled the trigger in the early hours of New Year's Day, killing a 23-year-old man identified by friends as Muhammad Mahood Jama, and injuring another.
"We know the individual in hospital knows who shot him, he won't talk. We know there are other people inside who saw the suspect," he said. "Of all the people we interviewed, one person provides a suspect description - absolutely ludicrous."
Clark's anger stems in part from what he sees as a lack of trust between local Somalis and police after a substantial amount of resources were invested to improve the relationship. In the wake of dozens homicides that claimed young men from the community in the past several years, the city responded with several town hall meetings, sports tournaments, an African Centre and other efforts to elicit change. Edmonton also created 18 organizations to help facilitate integration.
"So when we hear people in the Somali community and these ethnic communities complaining about city administration it frustrates us," said Clark on Sunday.
But Ilham Ahmed, a board member of the Somalia Community Centre, argues police are wrong to pin all the responsibility on the community.
"Why do we have to look for our own criminals?" she asked. "What I see is negligence from the police community because when you are trained to investigate a murder you are not supposed to be make special - a criminal is a criminal. He doesn't have a face, he doesn't have a race."
City councillor Amarjeet Sohi is calling on witnesses to come forward in the New Year's day homicide, but also argues it's important to find out why there is resistance.
"If there is a demand from the community that these homicides, these murders, need to be solved, then people need to cooperate," he said. "On the other hand we need to figure out why people are not cooperating, why people feel scared. Is there not enough support from police? I think there is but people need to be made aware."
The province's immigration minister agrees with that sentiment, arguing members of the Somali community need to utilize supports already in existence.
"The resources are in place, all they have to do is reach out and use them," said Thomas Lukasik. "If there is an integration problem then we will focus on it. I think we are doing what we can. There has to be some impetus from the Somali community, willingness to want to integrate. I'm not sensing that there isn't."
Still, Ahmed argues there is a sense of isolation in the Somali community, and a sense of disconnect between her culture and the city at large. She says she struggles to feel at home, even 20 years after immigrating to the country.
"Nothing has been done for this community. We are left on our own," she said.
With Files from Kevin Armstrong
