Drug Addiction and your SP-Is it ever appropriate for Clients to stage interventions?

sincere

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If u care all u can do is offer to help, but in the end it's their choice to make to clean up or not. Even during interventions, family members have to turn their back and walk away as a last resort. Do you really want to keep feeding them money to support their habbit? And have to watch them waste away? Maybe seeing everybody walk away will show them what they need to see...
 

blazejowski

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When I started seeing my friend 10 years ago, I knew she had a cocaine problem, and knew whatever money she took from me would go to her habit. Over the years, I saw her get worse and worse, with her smoking crack, and wasting away to a skeleton. We even had a session at the place she was staying at, which turned out to be a crack house. Very uncomfortable. There came a point where I put an end to our arrangement, because I couldn't fathom seeing her in such bad shape, and I helped her any other way I could. Thankfully, she hit rock bottom, and got the help she needed. Now flash forward a few years later, and our arrangement is back, but this time I know the money she gets goes towards her schooling. I can live with that....
 

sevenofnine

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As an old guy with a lot of history with alcholics.

Helping some one, when they are really not seeking help,
is just enabling them.

You just clean up behind them, cover them so they don't loose their job or go to jail or pay their bills etc etc.
And they continue on the same old way.

They have to want help and mean it when they say it no bull shit.
 

Caramel

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I know some pooners on here don't care at all about drug using SPs...but one thing that bugs me is how a lot of paying guys think that they are supporting the SP's drug habit, or are directly paying for her drugs out of their own pocket. Its as if they are giving their money away to her for free and don't realize that they are purchasing services, so now the money is in her possession and she is entitled to do whatever she pleases with it. The pooner here no longer has any authority over the cash and what happens to it. Its like a business owner on drugs or a lawyer/doctor, you the patron/client/patient are purchasing services from them, and if they want to go get high or go buy some shoes, you did not pay for those shoes or whatever they spend their money on - the trade of services for cash has been made, it is THEIR money now, not yours. Just wanted to clear that up.
 

kauffman

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Drug use was the first thing i saw when i started seeing escorts .. Abuse was not that easy for me to spot because many of the girls were long time user, starting when they were in there early teens .. The girls i was seeing usually were high and I0 did not even know it until years later ,, and knowing them better .. then i saw the signs .

Addiction of any kind .. can only get help when the addict decides they want to quite .. and I am not one for interventions .. that is something only their family can do .. and that is not as much an intervention as them say we will help you if you want help .. .

I know a few girls that have quite ,and it is not an easy thing for them ,, they still relapse or find another habit,, and have to start over ,, a number of time before they maybe can kick it ,, It also take going to programs rehab,and consoling ...

What i have done is just stayed there friend , giving them hope that some one cares about them and help out as I can .. I don't use drugs , smoke and seldom even drink . all can be is an example of some one who isn't an addict ...( I certainly have my addictions )

When it come to not supporting their habit .. Honestly I rather . give them a little money ., have them being honest with me about where it is going , them have them do what ever else they will to get that money for drugs .. They will get it no matter what .. , They may go with out for a while , get sick , depressed , and buy some cheap shit .. from who ever .. They won't stop until they desire too.. Just helping them realize how deadly , foolish and senseless drug are ,that some time is all it take I have found that just the humiliation of them admitting over and over again to a friend , that they know cares .. That help the most making them want to change .

But getting off drugs or booze all takes time , if they have been doing it for years with out you even knowing , then no you are not part of the problem .. hanging around ,, might help with the solution ,, In the end it will all ways be their chose that saves them or kills them ..

It is tuff to see girls .. go down to the bottom .. we only here and see those that are the worst .. But if you look around there are so many more that are just hanging on ,, Party girls ,, office workers , store clerks , and SP .. even mothers and fathers .. of all generations . THere is no easy way to solve the problem , and each one may be helped in different ways ..

If you care do your best to help ,, if you don't think you can handle it walk away ..
Inter ventions do not work. Often they will have the opposite effect. The whole idea was popularized by a tv program. Drug addiction and rehab are two forces that feed each other and are huge money makers. The reasons for addiction run deep. Usually the thing that will encourage and sustain change is a change in the environment. COMPLETE change. The same triggers around all the time make change hard to accomplish. It is nobody's right to "intervene" on anybody's life. That is a rather self-riteous thing to do. The best thing to do is to open the lines of communication as addiction is very isolating and full of shame and guilt. Change will onky ever happen when it is desired and a choice. Imposing on another will often make them push back. Nobody "chooses" addiction. Nobody wants to be addicted. The bad choice was the first one. addiction means lack of control so do not assume being addicted is a choice. It is a terrible thing. Addicts often hate themselves and their shame and the judgement of others encourages isolkation which feeds addiction more.
As a client you are i no position to intervene. A close friend can express concern and those with the ability to present options in a non invasiver way that may be healthier can guage the desire of the addicted one to seek help/change. It is a very sensitive issue. Addicts often hide their addiction. Inlike alcohol which is legal, drugs due to the nature of the lifestyle one is forced to live when using an illegal substance, create an environmment shrouded in secrecy. Much more difficult to approach. Proceed with caution
 

badbadboy

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We should start an online petition that SP's could sign with their work name, stating that they are working of their own free will, they are not being trafficked or pimped or coerced into working as a SP in any way. Maybe if a few hundred thousand SP's signed it, someone would take notice.

and if their pimps/handlers have all the log on information for these ladies isn't that going to skew the results of the poll?

Nice thought but IMHO there are some who definitely have a "go between" who is paid for handling emails, schedules, websites, pictures, etc etc etc. You never know who you are responding to with some SP's.
 
I know some pooners on here don't care at all about drug using SPs...but one thing that bugs me is how a lot of paying guys think that they are supporting the SP's drug habit, or are directly paying for her drugs out of their own pocket. Its as if they are giving their money away to her for free and don't realize that they are purchasing services, so now the money is in her possession and she is entitled to do whatever she pleases with it. The pooner here no longer has any authority over the cash and what happens to it. Its like a business owner on drugs or a lawyer/doctor, you the patron/client/patient are purchasing services from them, and if they want to go get high or go buy some shoes, you did not pay for those shoes or whatever they spend their money on - the trade of services for cash has been made, it is THEIR money now, not yours. Just wanted to clear that up.
Well said, hun.

They have to want help and mean it when they say it no bull shit.
You always have wise words! (;

People will change of their own accord. You cannot force or expect it from someone. you can just hope one day they will wake up and see the error of their ways.

and if their pimps/handlers have all the log on information for these ladies isn't that going to skew the results of the poll?

Nice thought but IMHO there are some who definitely have a "go between" who is paid for handling emails, schedules, websites, pictures, etc etc etc. You never know who you are responding to with some SP's.
Yes, the thought is nice.
 

kauffman

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When they take you to John school they have X-druggie Ho's telling how you hurt them by enabling their drug use. It's always the pooners fault you poor girls are enslaved in the sex trade!
REally? they blame the johns? Im pretty sure most addicted to anything know it's nobody's fault just a ong series of circumstances. Nobody chooses to be addicted but when one is addicted the self hate addicts feel gets thrown at everybody. Generally once cleaned up they have a bit more clarity. Nobody expects to become addicted the first time they try drugs. Some have addictive tendencies. Having cash on hand daily is difficult for someone battling addiction. I think the nature of this kind of work feeds addiction because it is looked down upon by many and is isolating as many sps im guessing dont tell many what they are doing. If it wasn't looked down upon and if people were more educated about it then perhaps it wouldnt be associated with such shame secrecy and guilt.
 

A John

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I spoke to a LTR sp about her abuse of her health, and it did not help. In fact, I had to stop seeing her since it pained me so much to see the rapid worsening of her body. And to this day, I beat myself up, wondering if there was more I could have done.
 
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