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do young sp's prefer young guys?

*emmanuelle

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You may be referring to Gen Y, who are the less than 30 crowd. gen X are the 30 - 47 group. Boomers are north of 47.
No, I meant gen x :)

I only specifically mentioned age 30 in that one example about understanding safe sex practices. Sex education was ramped way up in the mid-90s in reaction to the HIV epidemic, so kids in the 90's (like me), got sex-ed / condom use drilled into us. The point being that people who are over 30 got a different sex education from us under-30s.
 

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When I was in Amsterdam, I took a tour of the Red Light District that was given by a former prostitute. She said that she liked the tour groups of young guys (18 - 20) best because she could get through 8 - 10 of them in an hour.
 

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Generation Y guys are so much less homophobic than others:

Student guilty of hate crimes for spying on gay roommate


By Jonathan Allen and Aman Ali
NEW BRUNSWICK, New Jersey | Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:14pm EDT


(Reuters) - A former Rutgers University student who used a computer webcam to spy on a sexual tryst of his roommate, who later committed suicide, was found guilty of hate crimes on Friday in a case that put a national spotlight on gay bullying.

Dharun Ravi, 20, faces 10 years in prison on the most serious charge of bias intimidation against Tyler Clementi, 18, who committed suicide by jumping off the George Washington Bridge three days after learning his gay encounter was seen by webcam.

Ravi, who invited others to watch the feed from the camera mounted on top of his computer, was not charged with causing Clementi's death.

Ravi, an Indian citizen who has lived most of his life in the United States, will be sentenced on May 21 and remains free on $25,000 bail after surrendering his passport. He faces possible deportation.

Some legal experts said the case elevated the abuse of social media from a common prank, as Ravi's lawyer argued, to criminal behavior.

"It's very important that the jury returned a guilty verdict on the bias crime. It sends a message and it has a deterrent effect on what kids do. It's really important to say, we're not tolerating this," said Susan Abraham, a professor at New York Law School.

Others called the verdict overreaching.

"It illustrates the dysfunction of hate crime laws that were passed with the idea that they would strike out against hate groups and neo-Nazi groups, and instead end up being used in these one-off kind of cases, where immature confused young people act in some way that evidences prejudice," said James Jacobs, a professor at New York University School of Law. Ravi was convicted for using the webcam to watch Clementi's dorm room encounter with a 30-year-old man, identified only as M.B., on September 19, 2010, and attempting to do the same when M.B. returned to the room on September 21, 2010, although he was thwarted when Clementi unplugged the computer.

He was found guilty of encouraging others to watch by accessing the webcam from their own computers, by talking to them in person, sending Internet instant messages and posting notes on his Twitter page including "Roommate asked for room till midnight. Went into Molly's room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay."

GUILTY OF HATE CRIME

After 12 hours of deliberations over three days, the jury convicted Ravi on all 15 counts, including two counts of bias intimidation based on sexual orientation, which is a hate crime, invasion of privacy and tampering with evidence and witnesses.

Ravi covered his mouth with his hand and his eyes widened as the verdict was read in a courtroom in Middlesex County, New Jersey.

Juror Bruno Ferreira said it was "very difficult" to reach the guilty verdicts on the hate crime counts, which were tied to Ravi's efforts to twice use the webcam to spy on Clementi's with M.B.

"Thinking about it not being done once, being done twice, not just on one day," was what convinced the seven-woman, five-man panel, Ferreira said.

Prosecutor Julia McClure said she will consult the Clementi family and M.B. to determine what sentence she will ask Judge Glenn Berman to impose.

Victim statements are among the most important factors the judge will consider, legal experts say. "I wouldn't be surprised if the judge gave him a sentence of a year in jail, or six months or something like that. Now the symbolic point is made," Jacobs said.

Clementi's family in March 2011, before a grand jury indictment elevated the incident to a hate crime, released a statement saying Ravi should not receive "harsh punishment."

After the verdict, Tyler's father Joe Clementi, at a news conference with his wife and son James, who is gay, said, "The trial was painful for us, as it would be for any parent who must sit through and listen to people talk about bad things that were done to their child."

Clementi's death came amid a spate of gay teen suicides nationwide, triggering President Barack Obama to condemn bullying, speeding passage of New Jersey's anti-bullying law and prompting Rutgers to offer "gender-neutral housing," which gives students more options when it comes to choosing a roommate.

Going to trial was a gamble for Ravi, who turned down the prosecutor's offer of a plea deal recommending probation, community service and the promise to help him avoid deportation.

A deportation decision will be made by a U.S. immigration judge after Ravi completes his criminal sentence.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/16/us-crime-rutgers-idUSBRE82F0VP20120316
Two Richmond brothers charged in Vancouver gay bashing; police make no UFC link


By Charlie Smith, July 1, 2010

The Vancouver police have announced that two brothers have been charged in connection with a brutal attack on two gay men on June 12.

At a news conference at the police station today (July 1), Const. Jana McGuinness said that Richmond resident Parminder Singh (Peter) Bassi, 30, faces two counts of assault causing bodily harm.

His brother Ravinder (Robbie) Bassi, 27, is charged with one count of assault causing bodily harm.

"These arrests came after an intensive two-week investigation by our Vancouver police robbery-assault squad," McGuinness told reporters. "Two detectives, Det.-Const. Shane Aitken and Det.-Const. Michael Kim, followed up a number of leads that came in from the media release of surveillance images on June 18th. The public responded in an incredible way."

She said the Bassi brothers were arrested without incident yesterday at their home in Richmond. She confirmed that they are the two men who were in the surveillance photos.

"They've since been released from jail and they have a number of strict court-imposed conditions that they have to abide by," McGuinness added. "Neither man has a criminal record."

The maximum sentence for assault causing bodily harm is 10 years in jail.

However under Section 718.2 of the Criminal Code, a judge can impose a stiffer sentence if there is "evidence the crime was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate".

Last month, Peter Regier and his partner, David Holtzman, said they were returning to their home on Keefer Street when they came across two men who were urinating on their building.

They alleged that when they told the men to stop, they were viciously assaulted. Regier and Holtzman claimed at the time that the two attackers rained hate-filled insults on them for being gay.

That prompted Vancouver police Chief Jim Chu and Mayor Gregor Robertson, chair of the police board, to hold a news conference on Davie Street to condemn the attack and emphasize that police were taking it seriously.

McGuinness said that the assault has been investigated as a hate crime.

"We've put all of our information forward to Crown," she noted.

The attack occurred shortly after an Ultimate Fighting Championship competition at GM Place.

At the Chu-Robertson news conference last month, Holtzman challenged the mayor to ensure that the downtown is kept safe if the city continues licensing mixed-martial arts.

At today's news conference, McGuinness said that at this point, police have not uncovered any information linking the two brothers to the UFC event.

"So far, nothing has come to light to make that connection for us," she commented.

After a reporter asked if the two men were at GM Place that night, McGuinness replied that police won't divulge information obtained in interviews. However, she said there is no information to confirm whether or not they were there.

"We left no stone unturned," she maintained.

Read more: http://www.straight.com/article-332...ashing-attack-peter-regier-and-david-holtzman
 
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This thread was supposed to be about physical attraction. I mean, anyone can fake attitude, but you can't fake looks.
 

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To your original point, I dont think that age is that important for a young SP's preference between equally attractive 21 vs 27 year old. If they are equally attractive - then attitude and personality comes into play and is probably more important. The 'older' guy is probably more chill and confident.
I mean 27 isn't really that old to many of us here - though I do remember being stressed at your age with the big 3 - 0 bearing down.
 

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I am going to go out on a limb and say that its *common sense* that particular attitudes about women are not exclusive to specific age groups.
So, this thread is silly.
I tend to agree with you there, to suggest one group :young vs old have different attitudes towards women is a gross generalization. Every guy will have different attitudes towards women, safe sex practices, etc based on his personal experiences, cultural influences and the environment he grew up in. I know stereotypes and generalizations can be helpful tools for us in dealing with other people in our environment, and I am sure personal experience can certainly slant our view of one group vs another. However, bare in mind the market of men you are drawing conclusions about it? There is a very distinct group of men, young and old that are in this hobby.

That being said, the manscaping thing might be correct. I started manscaping once I got into this hobby because I thought it looked better, and would generally be a courteous thing to do. I enjoy a well trimmed or bare pussy, so why should I sport a full on 80's bush? Not sure how many men in the 40+ range manscape but I would venture a guess that less of them do than the "younger" generation.
 

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To me, manscaping is about trimming the pubes and for those who have have back hair...keeping that lasered or waxed.

I am not very hairy, with very modest chest hair and it's surprising how many young women have an issue with chest hair. I have no interest in looking like Justin Beiber. That hairless, androgynous look is ridiculous IMO. It's not so bad on some 22 year old but a 30+ year old man with a completely shaved body when they aren't a fitness model or competitive swimmer makes no sense to me.
 

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Could not have said it better george :)



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They prefer older guys. We take our time, are more gentle and gentlemanly. Generally we treat them better and with more respect. Younger guys are more brash, less polite, more likely to see how many times they can 'go' in an hour. They treat the ladies like a ride at Disney. We treat them like an experience to be treasured.
 

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Could not have said it better george :)



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They prefer older guys. We take our time, are more gentle and gentlemanly. Generally we treat them better and with more respect. Younger guys are more brash, less polite, more likely to see how many times they can 'go' in an hour. They treat the ladies like a ride at Disney. We treat them like an experience to be treasured.
Actually it could have been said much better. Mostly as in not sounding so biased. I work a trade (I'm not young, I'm 33 and fall in between the ages that's really being discussed, I dont consider myself old or young). and I'm not secretive about my hobby with people. Many younger (mid 20's) guys have asked me about it, and on average I'd say 3 out of 4 I'd suggest they'd see some of the ladies I do (the 1 of 4 I wouldn't is because they're dicks and I wouldn't want to subject some of my favorites to their attitudes). The older guys tend to be more jaded, less understanding, freely admit that they'd see the women in a lesser light because of what they do for a living and just generally have less respect for them. Two guys have actually made the step to call escorts and I distinctly remember (on seperate occasions) both not wanting to just go in and simply start fucking as that would make them really uncomfortable and not get a good mood going for them (one wanted to set his first up like a date, the other was adamant about wanting to be able to have conversations with her beforehand) and both were really interested in kissing/cuddling and all the girlfriendy stuff.

As for sex ed. No I started getting that stuff in grade 5, I worked in banff where the HR dept would have little baskets of condoms and single serving lube packs instead of mints on their reception desk. It was made quite apparent to me at a young age that condoms were important (didn't hurt that my mother worked for a doctor and kept me in a steady supply wether I was needing them or not). Personally I think the aids scare is alot less noticable now than when I was younger (magic johnson really brought it home for me), and an escort was telling me she gets the most pressure for bbfs from her young fuck buddies (she used to indulge and got a scare and now refuses - so she says, more reason for all of us to simply just wrap it up, you've no idea what these ladies are doing off the clock - and I dont mean that as an insult to anyone) as she notices that the 22-25 generation is the least scared of aids (younger guys also aren't as likely to have significant others they worry about passing something along to so getting an std only really affects them)

Personally real age and someone's attitude dont always correlate (I'm 33 but the mid 20 guys I work with all think I'm their age). Generalizing isn't the best way to approach a situation involving individuals.

If the OP is really concerned about looks between 21 and 27. Well for one I dont think you're looks should have dropped off that much during the 6 years of the beginning of your prime! If they have, well......you're fucked.
 

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Some do prefer younger. Some prefer older. Some like both. And it's not just SPs. It is women in general. Just like some guys like younger, some like older and some like both. It's all a matter of both people feeling comfortable with each other. For someone who claims to study very hard you have a lot of time for stupid questions. Remember, studying is no substitute for intelligence.
 

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They vote NDP because that party has a clear policy to take more from the 20% that pay 80% of the taxes and pass it on, and guess where these under 30 guys fit in......

Do you think anyone takes this kind of worn out propaganda seriously?
 

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Could not have said it better george :)



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They prefer older guys. We take our time, are more gentle and gentlemanly. Generally we treat them better and with more respect. Younger guys are more brash, less polite, more likely to see how many times they can 'go' in an hour. They treat the ladies like a ride at Disney. We treat them like an experience to be treasured.
That is probably true.
 
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