COVID - the aftermath - what happens to the brain

rlock

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This fits with what was being said during the emergency phase of the pandemic.
COVID is not "just a bit of flu", it never was. It had the ability to attack virtually every major organ in the body and do long term damage. That included the nervous system and brain.
People have been reporting these sort of strange effects & symptoms, and not just in those near-death cases but even the so-called "mild" ones.
Long COVID is a real thing, but governments have (perhaps deliberately) downplayed it, because the overall implications for future medical care are quite scary (and costly).

By the way, measles is also a real motherfucker of an illness, that can also do long term and even genetic damage. Do not take it lightly.



And sorry, SolidSnake, but the guy you made a link for is a conspiracy theorist and he is a "doctor" of Media Studies, not a valid source of medical anything.
 

SolidSnake

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If you actually bothered to look, you'd know it's not a "he" who wrote the book (with the help of MEDICAL volunteers) after going through mountainous piles of Pfizer documents that were submitted to court.

And sorry, SolidSnake, but the guy you made a link for is a conspiracy theorist and he is a "doctor" of Media Studies, not a valid source of medical anything.
 

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Massive amounts of research now show the long term impacts of SARS-CoV-2. In the linked study below autopsies done on patients who died after having Covid-19 show persistence of the virus in multiple organs including the brain for as long as 230 days post infection. ** Note that these are people who died before vaccines even existed. *** Also note that Nature is one of the leading and most respected scientific journals in Europe. This is real science.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05542-y
 

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If you actually bothered to look, you'd know it's not a "he" who wrote the book (with the help of MEDICAL volunteers) after going through mountainous piles of Pfizer documents that were submitted to court.
She's still an absolute loony crank:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf

Anybody buying into the junk she's selling, and it is stuff she's selling, has serious issues.
 

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Massive amounts of research now show the long term impacts of SARS-CoV-2. In the linked study below autopsies done on patients who died after having Covid-19 show persistence of the virus in multiple organs including the brain for as long as 230 days post infection. ** Note that these are people who died before vaccines even existed. *** Also note that Nature is one of the leading and most respected scientific journals in Europe. This is real science.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05542-y
Makes sense. People were dying end of 2019 and early 2020 from strokes, heart attacks, brain aneurysms. These were relatively, young, healthy people.
 

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Lots of science-ish sounding words in there. The article is playing to a specific audience.
Does it reference actual double blind studies.
How can you prove that any of these harms were caused by vaccines?
Coincidence is not causation.

Claims that the mrna vaccines were experimental ignore the fact that people had been working on them for decades.
 
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Lots of science-ish sounding words in there. The article is playing to a specific audience.
Does it reference actual double blind studies.
How can you prove that any of these harms were caused by vaccines?
Coincidence is not causation.

Claims that the mrna vaccines were experimental ignore the fact that people had been working on them for decades.

playing to a specific audience?

you mean like irrational emotional cripples when you tell them to stand 6ft from someone? that kind of science-ish sounding words there

one mask, two masks, 3, with no double blind studies in the few months between when it wasn't recommended then dictated

harms? so the people who dropped dead after getting the vaccine, families who were paid off, coincidence

we still have people to this day, walking around with masks on, alone, in the open with no one even close to them

bottomline is our "leaders" fucked up and still haven't learned, admitted, apologized for all the damage their irrational emotional stupidity caused, will keep causing for years to come due to it

people have stopped listening about covid, go look at the 65th vaccine push, which has bled into other

actual proven vaccines efforts

causation
 

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SARS is a motherfucker. Whether its 1, 2 or god help us all, 3 or whatever comes next. It does exactly what a virus is supposed to do. Find a way into a host, deliver its payload, cause the disease and at the same time find a way to find new hosts, and do it all over again. And when it starts to come up with blocks, (ie vaccinated types) it mutates to find a way past that particular set of mechanisms.

It is true that from autopsies, the disease was found in a lot more than a primary organ, so for those who are susceptible it can wreck havoc. And long covid and its resultant 'brain fog' is definitely a thing despite many Dr's being unable to diagnose it.

Anyway, as noted, we don't come to perb for a science education but unfortunately there are those that perpetrate internet BS.

Ok MPH out.
 
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Yeah I come to Perb to read about science. Lmao
I agree, it’s not why we're all on the ERB’s, and I won’t load up the thread with research.

The problem of course is that most people don’t go ANYWHERE to read about real science!! And so many remain ill informed, or worse misinformed by bad actors and disinformation campaigns that are simply full of shit.

Rant over, now back to your regular programming. Let's talk about sex Bay-beee….🎼
 
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Massive amounts of research now show the long term impacts of SARS-CoV-2. In the linked study below autopsies done on patients who died after having Covid-19 show persistence of the virus in multiple organs including the brain for as long as 230 days post infection. ** Note that these are people who died before vaccines even existed. *** Also note that Nature is one of the leading and most respected scientific journals in Europe. This is real science.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05542-y

SARS is a motherfucker. Whether its 1, 2 or god help us all, 3 or whatever comes next. It does exactly what a virus is supposed to do. Find a way into a host, deliver its payload, cause the disease and at the same time find a way to find new hosts, and do it all over again. And when it starts to come up with blocks, (ie vaccinated types) it mutates to find a way past that particular set of mechanisms.

It is true that from autopsies, the disease was found in a lot more than a primary organ, so for those who are susceptible it can wreck havoc. And long covid and its resultant 'brain fog' is definitely a thing despite many Dr's being unable to diagnose it.

Anyway, as noted, we don't come to perb for a science education but unfortunately there are those that perpetrate internet BS.

Ok MPH out.

harms? so the people who dropped dead after getting the vaccine, families who were paid off, coincidence

we still have people to this day, walking around with masks on, alone, in the open with no one even close to them

bottomline is our "leaders" fucked up and still haven't learned, admitted, apologized for all the damage their irrational emotional stupidity caused, will keep causing for years to come due to it

causation

I have yet to hear any of the Convoy Conspiracy Cult quacks ever apologize for their irrational& selfish bullshit. They will spin literally any story except the truth, and now these thugs walk around like they own society. I do not expect anything from them that resembles honesty, empathy or common sense.

The scientists started out knowing only generalities about corona viruses and pandemics, but even there, as evidence piled up, they were proven right on most things, perhaps a bit too optimistic hoping for certain things that did not pan out as time passed and the virus evolved, but overall the principles of how viruses work and why vaccines were the key to victory all proved true. The vaccines certainly did their job turning an emergency into something more like an ongoing concern that no longer threatens nations with millions of deaths. The virus adapts, the vaccines adapt, but ultimately, people adapt too, because that is how we get from "weird new corona virus" to "just another corona virus like the common cold".

As for the "vaccine injury" hysteria of some, I will say this:
Society survives based on aggregates not individuals with peculiar outcomes. Peculiar & tragic cases generate chatter, but that is up against the millions of ordinary cases with positive outcomes that you never hear about.
For every case of alleged vaccine injury, there's 1000 people who would succumb to the same symptoms from unprotected exposure the COVID virus itself. For every symptom or negative reaction the vaccine might create, the COVID virus itself would do the same things but 10x harder & more dangerous. Even if a case is not being embellished or exaggerated, some people are just going to be unlucky - particularly reactive to something in an unusual and severe way. Yet I cannot imagine that faced with an unprotected dance with the disease itself, they would somehow survive when they die from a vaccine that merely simulates the virus in order to provoke the immune system to react to it.

I have heard nothing credible from a reliable scientific source to suggest the anti-vaxxer movement's assertions are anything but hysteria & overt manipulation.
 

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I have yet to hear any of the Convoy Conspiracy Cult quacks ever apologize for their irrational& selfish bullshit. They will spin literally any story except the truth, and now these thugs walk around like they own society. I do not expect anything from them that resembles honesty, empathy or common sense.

The scientists started out knowing only generalities about corona viruses and pandemics, but even there, as evidence piled up, they were proven right on most things, perhaps a bit too optimistic hoping for certain things that did not pan out as time passed and the virus evolved, but overall the principles of how viruses work and why vaccines were the key to victory all proved true. The vaccines certainly did their job turning an emergency into something more like an ongoing concern that no longer threatens nations with millions of deaths. The virus adapts, the vaccines adapt, but ultimately, people adapt too, because that is how we get from "weird new corona virus" to "just another corona virus like the common cold".

As for the "vaccine injury" hysteria of some, I will say this:
Society survives based on aggregates not individuals with peculiar outcomes. Peculiar & tragic cases generate chatter, but that is up against the millions of ordinary cases with positive outcomes that you never hear about.
For every case of alleged vaccine injury, there's 1000 people who would succumb to the same symptoms from unprotected exposure the COVID virus itself. For every symptom or negative reaction the vaccine might create, the COVID virus itself would do the same things but 10x harder & more dangerous. Even if a case is not being embellished or exaggerated, some people are just going to be unlucky - particularly reactive to something in an unusual and severe way. Yet I cannot imagine that faced with an unprotected dance with the disease itself, they would somehow survive when they die from a vaccine that merely simulates the virus in order to provoke the immune system to react to it.

I have heard nothing credible from a reliable scientific source to suggest the anti-vaxxer movement's assertions are anything but hysteria & overt manipulation.
I will remember Covid as the pandemic that wiped out 0.0854 percent of the earth's population.

Not great if you were one of the people that died.

Not as bad for the other 99.9 percent.
 

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I have yet to hear any of the Convoy Conspiracy Cult quacks ever apologize for their irrational& selfish bullshit. They will spin literally any story except the truth, and now these thugs walk around like they own society. I do not expect anything from them that resembles honesty, empathy or common sense.

The scientists started out knowing only generalities about corona viruses and pandemics, but even there, as evidence piled up, they were proven right on most things, perhaps a bit too optimistic hoping for certain things that did not pan out as time passed and the virus evolved, but overall the principles of how viruses work and why vaccines were the key to victory all proved true. The vaccines certainly did their job turning an emergency into something more like an ongoing concern that no longer threatens nations with millions of deaths. The virus adapts, the vaccines adapt, but ultimately, people adapt too, because that is how we get from "weird new corona virus" to "just another corona virus like the common cold".

As for the "vaccine injury" hysteria of some, I will say this:
Society survives based on aggregates not individuals with peculiar outcomes. Peculiar & tragic cases generate chatter, but that is up against the millions of ordinary cases with positive outcomes that you never hear about.
For every case of alleged vaccine injury, there's 1000 people who would succumb to the same symptoms from unprotected exposure the COVID virus itself. For every symptom or negative reaction the vaccine might create, the COVID virus itself would do the same things but 10x harder & more dangerous. Even if a case is not being embellished or exaggerated, some people are just going to be unlucky - particularly reactive to something in an unusual and severe way. Yet I cannot imagine that faced with an unprotected dance with the disease itself, they would somehow survive when they die from a vaccine that merely simulates the virus in order to provoke the immune system to react to it.

I have heard nothing credible from a reliable scientific source to suggest the anti-vaxxer movement's assertions are anything but hysteria & overt manipulation.
haha, that's some good bullshit

didn't know anything about corona viruses?

really?

you can't recall SARS? another one of China's gifts to the world, in the early 2000's

of which they drafted a plan for the next "pandemic" "situation"

of which your "scientists" threw the book out the window and went with emotional/irrational crippledness instead, the opposite of "science"

and spare me about the Convoy people, it was a bother, sure for the overpriced federal government workers, working from home, who never lost a thing economically

but, it was peaceful, there was no violence, you know like the kind that's been happening with the Islamist Terrorists in Montreal across the country for the last year or so


credible? you mean like Fauci? who admits, he pulled 6ft distancing out of his ass, said there was no evidence for child masking


that's why actual vaccines that have a proven track record are being ignored now

cause of the "reliable" pulling shit out of their ass in fear, not science

EVEN AFTER THEY KNEW THEY WERE WRONG AND NOT ADMITTING IT, CHANGING


THAT'S WHERE THE HYSTERIA AND OVERT MANIPULATION WAS COMING FROM

IT'S THE REASON WHY PEOPLE HAVE TUNED OUT NOW


AND YOUR BULLSHIT ABOUT THE VACCINE "DOING IT'S JOB"

THEN HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE AREAS IN THE WORLD THAT NEVER GOT THEIR "SHARE" YET ARE STILL ALL ALIVE AS WELL?

YOU KNOW LIKE THE 99.9% MENTIONED ABOVE
 

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haha, that's some good bullshit

didn't know anything about corona viruses?

really?

you can't recall SARS? another one of China's gifts to the world, in the early 2000's

of which they drafted a plan for the next "pandemic" "situation"

of which your "scientists" threw the book out the window and went with emotional/irrational crippledness instead, the opposite of "science"

and spare me about the Convoy people, it was a bother, sure for the overpriced federal government workers, working from home, who never lost a thing economically

but, it was peaceful, there was no violence, you know like the kind that's been happening with the Islamist Terrorists in Montreal across the country for the last year or so


credible? you mean like Fauci? who admits, he pulled 6ft distancing out of his ass, said there was no evidence for child masking


that's why actual vaccines that have a proven track record are being ignored now

cause of the "reliable" pulling shit out of their ass in fear, not science

EVEN AFTER THEY KNEW THEY WERE WRONG AND NOT ADMITTING IT, CHANGING


THAT'S WHERE THE HYSTERIA AND OVERT MANIPULATION WAS COMING FROM

IT'S THE REASON WHY PEOPLE HAVE TUNED OUT NOW


AND YOUR BULLSHIT ABOUT THE VACCINE "DOING IT'S JOB"

THEN HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE AREAS IN THE WORLD THAT NEVER GOT THEIR "SHARE" YET ARE STILL ALL ALIVE AS WELL?

YOU KNOW LIKE THE 99.9% MENTIONED ABOVE

Yeah, I remember SARS, and also MERS.
Yes, they crafted all the pandemic mitigation plans they had after SARS, and then after all that work it was politicians who ignored it all. \

Do YOU remenber? Guys like Doug Ford, who kept encouraging people to go on spring break trips and cruises, until it was too late and they had a hard time repatriating people who were already in danger. Various idiot US governors insisting is was all fake, some WEF conspiracy. Trump doing nothing but telling people to take hydroxchlorquine, ivermectin, or inject bleach, and the virus killing a million people in the US with his "help". (Just 45000 died from it in in Canada over the same time.) That's when he wasn't getting his MAGA morons to attack Asian people on the streets all over north America.

And then those politicians who delayed the WHO declaring it a pandemic at all, for a crucial couple of months, pressuring scientists to downplay it because they did not want to crimp the global economy. Then the same bunch trying to lie to people that the lockdown would only be "a couple of weeks, a couple of months" blah blah, trying to act like they could negotiate better terms with a virus.

But yes, let's also blame the Chinese polticians who keep insisting nothing was even going on even in the beginning, alerting nobody and punishing doctors who did, allowing the virus to slip out of its containment and spread more than SARS or MERS managed to. They still refuse to list their real statistics, pretending they lost less than 6000 people, when it's clear they probably lost more than that in one city in the first month of it. And then you've got a lot of countries in the 3rd world who are so piled-on by everything else that cannot even count how many died, because they do not even track who dies from non-homicides. Countries where going to hospital when you get ill is not even possible for 90% of their population.

So stop trying to justify the clown army and its fucked up anti-logic.
 

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rlock re the double spaced diuretic:
Its called a cognitive dissonance where the individuals are too stupid to know how stupid they are.
That and just basic sad internet trolls living in their mama's basements.
 
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