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Love and marriage is not what it's cracked up to be. It seems all romantic when everyone is horny and making rational decisions like spending the rest of your life with one person then throwing an elaborate party with all your family that pretty much eliminates any opportunity to have second thoughts. Oh, and you're probably making the most important decision of your life (outside of having kids) while drunk as fuck. Kids are often conceived while drunk as fuck as well....a pattern of 2 emerges...

3 or 4 weeks in and it's like having a roommate that doesn't have to knock on the bathroom door and in my case(s), becomes some sort of puppet-master that has an opinion/right to have a say on everything in your life.

"Really, I have to dress and wear my hair how? Lol...oh, you're serious?"

Nice list of people I can no longer associate with, things I can't do "for my own good" and things I have to do "because they're good for me". Then it was all a blur of arguments over wrapping cheese properly, who's the better driver, and costs of shopping vs. golfing.

It was so weird, because my husbands started out as friends. However, they came from very traditional families and marriage meant ownership/obedience in their minds. This is what it meant for their Mom, and this is what it was to mean for me. Patterns are hard to change once they are ingrained.

Control sure the hell isn't a male domain, however. Take my cousin....please. She nags constantly, about everything, to everyone, especially her husband. It never ends. Her favorite hobby is telling people what to wear and then forcing them to change their clothes before she'll go out with them. Everything is a challenge, everything is a struggle, from the route you take to get there to the time you leave.

Unfortunately, people who hunger for control over others will make your life a fucking nightmare if they want to control you. Logic is gone and they are going to test the tensile strength of your anus to it's full capacity in a divorce.

The need for control blinds people who are, IMO, addicted to it. The worst is when kids are caught in this crossfire of revenge,hate,and power. I think using kids to get back at a person is despicable, but addicts can do some pretty despicable things. My cousin isn't a bad person, and neither are a lot of people who I frankly find exhausting.

The point though is it they are exhausting. I don't want to live in a troop of gorillas where I have to beat my chest and posture every so often so the control freaks don't challenge me. I just don't want them around for very long.

I've always been of the "as long as it's not messing with me or my child I don't care" mindset. The only control I want is over myself. Possibly also a trained Raven.
 

sevenofnine

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I don't really want to get into analyzing my wife or marriage,
But my wife is or was a control freak.

Still married thirty years in. I drank a lot.

You know it takes two.
We play off each other, we effect each other.

It would have been easy to walk I suppose.
But my wife I believe controls out of fear, insecurity.
There is good in her.

But insecurity controls her.
Its funny but the older I get the more I fool around.

The nicer it is to have a home and a wife to go home to.
Maybe its the women I hang with escorts.

They have such a complicated complex life. I feel for them I do.

It truly is nice to go home to my simple life.
Like I said it takes to.

She can try and control me all she wants.

Have you ever heard of herding cats.
 

CLUB78

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I was once a master cat-herder. They called me Cato-Herdo and I wore a long red cape. Or it might be a mescaline trip I was on once. Toilet facilities were terrible.

"It would have been easy to walk I suppose."

That's the thing though, sometimes you can't walk. Unless you want to give up a really big part of your life. Most people don't like change and the idea of such a huge change terrifies them. Plus, how does it affect the branches of your life built on the marriage, like kids, your and their extended family and shared friends...

"They have such a complicated complex life" Some do, some don't. Can't generalize. Actually, I find life in general to be constant complications, especially if you have to deal with government bureaucracy in any way whatsoever.

Apparently, in a mature relationship, it is supposed to turn into "companiate love" where you take separate vacations and such. Like a friend or a sibling. They're imperfect, you love them, you need time away from them frequently, but you can't imagine them not being in your life. I think most people who stick with it end up here, although I know blokes having sex with their wives at 80 or older...so...I guess it's individual.
 

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1) It really does come down to the person you choose to settle down with.

2) If they are controlling in any way - it is a HUGE red flag to get out and get out now - no matter how many other "great" traits they possess.

This goes for male and female.

imo it is the single biggest reason for relationship breakdowns - one persons need to have control over another.
 

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1) It really does come down to the person you choose to settle down with.

2) If they are controlling in any way - it is a HUGE red flag to get out and get out now - no matter how many other "great" traits they possess.

This goes for male and female.

imo it is the single biggest reason for relationship breakdowns - one persons need to have control over another.
AMEN. ElenaRoxanne: the ravens are only one thing I miss about living on the Island! We do have a pair that seems to pass through here winters; they're distinguishable from the crows by a) size b) hooked beak and c) distinctive 'rook rook rook!' calls. There also used to be a few pairs of WHITE ravens near Qualicum Beach, but I am not sure they're there anymore.
 

CLUB78

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AMEN. ElenaRoxanne: the ravens are only one thing I miss about living on the Island! We do have a pair that seems to pass through here winters; they're distinguishable from the crows by a) size b) hooked beak and c) distinctive 'rook rook rook!' calls. There also used to be a few pairs of WHITE ravens near Qualicum Beach, but I am not sure they're there anymore.
The white ravens are there...there was a local article about it a spell back...:D

Differences between Crows and Ravens, nice little video.
 
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Being associated in any way to a Hitchcock blonde is fantastic, especially the great Tippi Hendren. I am humbled. :D
Unfortunately, I believe the bird in the pic is a crow -- but I couldn't find as good a photo of a trained raven. They took a bunch of photos of Ms. Hedren with the avian cast members during the shoot.

 

CJ Tylers

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I think it's better to be alone than in a bad marriage.

It's also better to be in a good marriage than to be alone.

I have people telling me that I should settle down with a nice girl, almost as many those that say "never get married!". Strangely enough, a good chunk of the latter would never give up their marriage... and I've seen them with their wives, as happy as they were the day they were married (many moons ago).

Married people might long for greener pastures, but they have a selective memory... they conveniently forget all the loneliness and heart break of being single, instead choosing to focus on the tiny freedoms that seem more important than what they are starting to walk away from.
 
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westcoast555

Love and marriage is not what it's cracked up to be. It seems all romantic when everyone is horny and making rational decisions like spending the rest of your life with one person then throwing an elaborate party with all your family that pretty much eliminates any opportunity to have second thoughts. Oh, and you're probably making the most important decision of your life (outside of having kids) while drunk as fuck. Kids are often conceived while drunk as fuck as well....a pattern of 2 emerges...

3 or 4 weeks in and it's like having a roommate that doesn't have to knock on the bathroom door and in my case(s), becomes some sort of puppet-master that has an opinion/right to have a say on everything in your life.

"Really, I have to dress and wear my hair how? Lol...oh, you're serious?"

Nice list of people I can no longer associate with, things I can't do "for my own good" and things I have to do "because they're good for me". Then it was all a blur of arguments over wrapping cheese properly, who's the better driver, and costs of shopping vs. golfing.

It was so weird, because my husbands started out as friends. However, they came from very traditional families and marriage meant ownership/obedience in their minds. This is what it meant for their Mom, and this is what it was to mean for me. Patterns are hard to change once they are ingrained.

Control sure the hell isn't a male domain, however. Take my cousin....please. She nags constantly, about everything, to everyone, especially her husband. It never ends. Her favorite hobby is telling people what to wear and then forcing them to change their clothes before she'll go out with them. Everything is a challenge, everything is a struggle, from the route you take to get there to the time you leave.

Unfortunately, people who hunger for control over others will make your life a fucking nightmare if they want to control you. Logic is gone and they are going to test the tensile strength of your anus to it's full capacity in a divorce.

The need for control blinds people who are, IMO, addicted to it. The worst is when kids are caught in this crossfire of revenge,hate,and power. I think using kids to get back at a person is despicable, but addicts can do some pretty despicable things. My cousin isn't a bad person, and neither are a lot of people who I frankly find exhausting.

The point though is it they are exhausting. I don't want to live in a troop of gorillas where I have to beat my chest and posture every so often so the control freaks don't challenge me. I just don't want them around for very long.

I've always been of the "as long as it's not messing with me or my child I don't care" mindset. The only control I want is over myself. Possibly also a trained Raven.
This is one of the funniest and most astute posts I've read on this forum.... you paint quite a picture! :)
 
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westcoast555

Love and marriage is not what it's cracked up to be. It seems all romantic when everyone is horny and making rational decisions like spending the rest of your life with one person then throwing an elaborate party with all your family that pretty much eliminates any opportunity to have second thoughts. Oh, and you're probably making the most important decision of your life (outside of having kids) while drunk as fuck. Kids are often conceived while drunk as fuck as well....a pattern of 2 emerges...

3 or 4 weeks in and it's like having a roommate that doesn't have to knock on the bathroom door and in my case(s), becomes some sort of puppet-master that has an opinion/right to have a say on everything in your life.

"Really, I have to dress and wear my hair how? Lol...oh, you're serious?"

Nice list of people I can no longer associate with, things I can't do "for my own good" and things I have to do "because they're good for me". Then it was all a blur of arguments over wrapping cheese properly, who's the better driver, and costs of shopping vs. golfing.

It was so weird, because my husbands started out as friends. However, they came from very traditional families and marriage meant ownership/obedience in their minds. This is what it meant for their Mom, and this is what it was to mean for me. Patterns are hard to change once they are ingrained.

Control sure the hell isn't a male domain, however. Take my cousin....please. She nags constantly, about everything, to everyone, especially her husband. It never ends. Her favorite hobby is telling people what to wear and then forcing them to change their clothes before she'll go out with them. Everything is a challenge, everything is a struggle, from the route you take to get there to the time you leave.

Unfortunately, people who hunger for control over others will make your life a fucking nightmare if they want to control you. Logic is gone and they are going to test the tensile strength of your anus to it's full capacity in a divorce.

The need for control blinds people who are, IMO, addicted to it. The worst is when kids are caught in this crossfire of revenge,hate,and power. I think using kids to get back at a person is despicable, but addicts can do some pretty despicable things. My cousin isn't a bad person, and neither are a lot of people who I frankly find exhausting.

The point though is it they are exhausting. I don't want to live in a troop of gorillas where I have to beat my chest and posture every so often so the control freaks don't challenge me. I just don't want them around for very long.

I've always been of the "as long as it's not messing with me or my child I don't care" mindset. The only control I want is over myself. Possibly also a trained Raven.
This is one of the funniest and most astute posts I've read on this forum.... you paint quite a picture! :)

I want a raven too... they are crazy smart.
 

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I like your writing, Roxanne. I like what you think, how you think.

Now as for control, I firmly believe in Live and Let Live, and it applies to everyone and even yourself. Coupling of any kind, particularly legally sanctioned kind, as it is often practiced is the antithesis of that.

Fact: life is short, very very short and you only have 1. For that reason you should live your life to the fullest extent possible because time is running out. You won't always have your youth. You won't always be able to eat whatever you want. You won't always be able-bodied. You can't always be sexual. Make your choices carefully when it comes to anything remotely long term. Live and let yourself live, your loved ones live, and make sure your loved ones let you live. It's respect for you because it's your life and you only have 1.

Otherwise, life is very very long.
 

CLUB78

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This is one of the funniest and most astute posts I've read on this forum.... you paint quite a picture! :)

I want a raven too... they are crazy smart.
They really are, thank Zeus they're not the size of pterodactyls..

Also, you think I'm funny?
 

CLUB78

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I like your writing, Roxanne. I like what you think, how you think.

Now as for control, I firmly believe in Live and Let Live, and it applies to everyone and even yourself. Coupling of any kind, particularly legally sanctioned kind, as it is often practiced is the antithesis of that.

Fact: life is short, very very short and you only have 1. For that reason you should live your life to the fullest extent possible because time is running out. You won't always have your youth. You won't always be able to eat whatever you want. You won't always be able-bodied. You can't always be sexual. Make your choices carefully when it comes to anything remotely long term. Live and let yourself live, your loved ones live, and make sure your loved ones let you live. It's respect for you because it's your life and you only have 1.

Otherwise, life is very very long.
I like people who flatter me because I have secret insecurities. Well, they used to be secret anyways. I wish I had my former stomach that 20 yr old guys in the gym would envy...it was a 12 pack...you could see striations in the muscle. Then I had a 10 lb child. I'm not complaining, as it's pretty good, but will I ever have a 22 inch waist again? Probably not. Unless I subject myself to surgery or corset training....

I agree with everything you say here. I know we agreed not to do a review of your visit to me, but I just wanted to say that what could have been a really awkward situation turned into something much better than was originally intended. How's that for cryptic? You are definitely a genius though....kind of like Megamind actually....hmm....

I would actually prefer a polygamous Matriarchal society.
 
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