CBC:The Lens and PERB?

Skinnyfat

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So I was watching The Lens last night and they showed a trailer for an upcoming episode on Tuesday Jan. 23rd.

Something about the sex trade in Vancouver. They have an interview with a well known Madame who posts on here and they also talk to two "high-end' SP's.

In the trailer it showed the SP on a computer talking about The 411 section on a message board and what it's used for. Could be any board, I know but it got my attention.

They also walk around the East Side with an ex-SW.

Just thought I'd give a heads up.
 
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georgebushmoron

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Shit that's not good news.
 

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Once again ...

I don't know is it just me . or is this just another self rietchious film maker taking a look at prositusion.and tring to explain about people that sell sex and those that buy sex . to the general publice .. who want to condem others for wanting sex as part of there life.. or just having some injoyable moments with another .
Let face it we live in a sexually repressed society..,and so meny people think sex is dirty.. so it is not openly talked about.. even when I aguy sees an escort ..how often do we talk about sex how we like it w, why we like ..what others like and don't like Or even or what others do .. it sould be part of life and easily talked about .just like a macenice talks a bout cars ..or a carpenter about biulding houses.
I addmite i have not always thought this way .. i am one of the sexually repressed. myself. But these documentries .are allways coming from the wrong angle. they are note partakers of the services...and if they have they won't addmite it ..,so how can they convaiy any sence of the reallity of life.. with out the hiped up drama. It is the age old problem with medea ,itcan
t show the true with one minut clips and out of contex comments.. or show reality of life witch is a 24/7 on going prosses.
It may be informitive to the laymen . but most eople are not even interested... or about as inteested as they are in having sex.. and what is goverment going to do .. Well they wil just have more studies on the subjuct .. and claim / "I did not have sexual relations with that women" Right as if they do not Fuck like the rest of use.
 

Miss*Bijou

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have you seen it?

maxx50 said:
I don't know is it just me . or is this just another self rietchious film maker taking a look at prositusion.and tring to explain about people that sell sex and those that buy sex . to the general publice .. who want to condem others for wanting sex as part of there life.. or just having some injoyable moments with another .
Let face it we live in a sexually repressed society..,and so meny people think sex is dirty.. so it is not openly talked about.. even when I aguy sees an escort ..how often do we talk about sex how we like it w, why we like ..what others like and don't like Or even or what others do .. it sould be part of life and easily talked about .just like a macenice talks a bout cars ..or a carpenter about biulding houses.
I addmite i have not always thought this way .. i am one of the sexually repressed. myself. But these documentries .are allways coming from the wrong angle. they are note partakers of the services...and if they have they won't addmite it ..,so how can they convaiy any sence of the reallity of life.. with out the hiped up drama. It is the age old problem with medea ,itcan
t show the true with one minut clips and out of contex comments.. or show reality of life witch is a 24/7 on going prosses.
It may be informitive to the laymen . but most eople are not even interested... or about as inteested as they are in having sex.. and what is goverment going to do .. Well they wil just have more studies on the subjuct .. and claim / "I did not have sexual relations with that women" Right as if they do not Fuck like the rest of use.
I think you're way off on this one..
You may want to watch it before you choose your angle! ;)
Or you could just read up on it... that's why I posted the links...

If you had followed the 1st link, this is what you would have read:

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A SAFER SEX TRADE
Tuesday January 23, 2007 & Saturday January 27, 2007 at 10pm ET/PT on CBC Newsworld

"The sex trade is a valid career option today if managed properly", - Scarlett Lake, Vancouver madam

Scarlett is a highly successful madam with 30 years under her belt in the sex trade business; Simone is a high-class sex worker who services wealthy clients in five Western Canadian cities; and Jennifer is a former drug addicted prostitute who now works tirelessly to offer support to sex trade workers on the streets. These women have had different experiences in the sex trade business, but they're united by one concern-the safety of women in their stigmatized industry.

Jennifer exposes the ugly side of Vancouver's streets, where Canada's current laws have led to the increasing marginalization of street walkers and have made the women at the front lines of the notorious Downtown Eastside particularly vulnerable. It's a danger that made international headlines last year with the arrest of Robert Willie Pickton, charged with the murder of 26 women, many of them Vancouver sex trade workers.

On the other side are high-priced sex workers like Simone, who are not at such risk. Their expensive services are advertised in the yellow pages as escort agencies, and are taxed and operated under tacit approval of the police.

"The sex trade is a valid career option today if managed properly," says Scarlett, who now speaks publicly about her work as a madam and her belief that prostitution should be legalized.

A Safer Sex Trade explores this double standard at work by putting faces to the women who represent both perspectives: life in the high rise and on the street.

A Safer Sex Trade was produced and directed by Carolyn Allain and co-written with David Ray. The documentary is produced by Cheap and Dirty Productions Inc., in association with CBC Newsworld.

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Yup. Way off.



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georgebushmoron

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Reporters and media people are among the stupidest people in society. They mindlessly think they are doing a public duty by "reporting the facts" and barely care (or don't think) about the circumstances. Problem is, they have enormous power by having the ability to be beamed to our television sets nationwide.

This is going to educate no one. All that is known about the sex trade is already known by those in the position of power to improve things, and has been known for decades. All this is going to do is outrage senior citizens, housewives, those who are extremely naive, conservatives, and Christians, and they will in turn flood the Vancouver cops with calls and complaints. The cops, who only truly care about their bottom line and their own political power, will do another big public "clean up" and do far more damage than their touted "aid" to victims of the sex trade.
 

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seriously

Hi miss B. I Did read up on it and listened to the clips. I am sure that miss S and the others that partisipated in the doc.. were sincere in what they were attempting to get a cross.. But does it give a real face to the people that are Sp's and Escorts..( not that everyone wants to be recognised for how they are making a living) Does the show try to show that people in the biuss. have lives just like everyone else .. with out abunch of related drame just assosiated with the sex trade... What about the miss Clevers ( not quite)..that have another life.. out side the job.. or that there realy is no seperation between the two . Where meny of ther clients are friends . that they know well and love . and care about .. and vicaversa... and they may see each other on different occation .. not just for sex.
Sure I am byus. and may beself serving.. in my perspective the sex trade. but i ask again ,how meny peolpe. that have not been involved it the biuss , eather as provider..or client.. can see what is wrong with attitudes.?
Yes I maybe off here . mieght be even beating another horse alltogether... and have blinders on to boot.
As for the spelling .I was off on a rant.. and did not check he spelling a much as i should have ..I know it makes me look like a moreon.. or more -off
When it comes to documentaries.. it is not what people say .that sets the direction . or tone .. but how it is edited... In one sean they show the up scale escort.. and every thing is great .. and the next the crack out hooker.. waying for a john.. it realy set a positive spin.. on it all . I will try to watch it .. but i don't need to be won over..

Just a side note.. Yes I see escorts .. but I would like to have a more meaningfull relationship.. But i just may not have what it takes ..The other side of me though is quite willing to help out any of the ladies that i know ..in what ever they want to persue . in or out side of escorting ... and when they want to leave this . i respect them for that to . and not just look at them as sex objects .
 

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does anyone recognize the sp in the white bathing suit....? she is in the pics section of the production companies website.
 

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I get what you're both saying about media... but I understood it more to be focused on the safety aspect when comparing SP's and SW "working" conditions...how Canada's laws actually make it more unsafe for SW's.

Of course I haven't seen it either ;) but I just thought you were quick to form an opinion based on other documentories you've seen in the past and your views on media...and might want to watch it before, that is all. :) You can rant all you want baby, I do it all the time... it feels great. :p
I'm used to your spelling, I would think someone else wrote the post if there were none! :D



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Yes safty

I think you are right on that .. it is about safty..and i was going off on the whole sex things ..just something on my mind all the time .. I admit i am concerned about the safty of the ladies in the biuss.. The few i see i allways hope they watch what they are getting into each time .. and have the sense to run when it does not feel right..
The reality is taht women are not even safe in relationships .. and it is so much more dangerious when they are out there with first time strangers.. I can not imagin what it takes to do that meny times a day
. I heard of a little bit from my once girl friend.. who had gone the full gammit. from striper to SW. to indy .. and worked through an agentcy.. and that is not all ways safe as she found out a few times. and this is in old Vic.
Yes and then there have been the time when there have been a numder of SW that were killed or are missing.. I have always seen that it is not safe.
A huge part of safty still comes down to the choses the ladies make .. and why they are working in the sex trade . Pimps and drug use can make it pritty unsafe . and then if you are tring to take care of a family .. they seem to do what ever it takes to provid for them...
I don't have an answer.. I just resently been in lightened.. and still maye back in the dark ages on some things .when it come tosex and the whole dam thing.
 

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georgebushmoron said:
This is going to educate no one.
Sadly this is where you are wrong. Most people who watch this are going to think that whatever is reported on television is the truth 'because they won't let them tell lies on the news' and so whatever they hear is the truth. This is why it is so dangerous when someone (person or group) can 'report' the 'news' without disclosing who is the backer.

- TR
 
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