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So from the internet:

What does cancel culture mean? Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for ( canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming.

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withdrawing support
more like online bullying of a production studio or TV station until they cave to an individual's or minority's identity politics.

or said something considered objectionable or offensive.
more like if anyone is breathing in a direction they don't like....it can be that petty.

So for example Don Cherry..... he referred to immigrants as "you people" during a Remembrance Day episode of his show, which got everyone's tits in a twist; because "they" think it's racist. Except if anyone actually followed Cherry over his 30 years of commentaries knows that he always speaks like that to anyone. Like a father or like a hockey coach, telling it to you straight.... only until NOW, some Twitter-idiot got all "offended" and got him fired from his long standing job.
 

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more like online bullying of a production studio or TV station until they cave to an individual's or minority's identity politics.



more like if anyone is breathing in a direction they don't like....it can be that petty.

So for example Don Cherry..... he referred to immigrants as "you people" during a Remembrance Day episode of his show, which got everyone's tits in a twist; because "they" think it's racist. Except if anyone actually followed Cherry over his 30 years of commentaries knows that he always speaks like that to anyone. Like a father or like a hockey coach, telling it to you straight.... only until NOW, some Twitter-idiot got all "offended" and got him fired from his long standing job.
The community put up with Don Cherry for way longer than was expected. With all due respect to his prior contributions, he no longer provided much insight nor entertainment. I personally think CBC/SN was just looking for an excuse to lay him off, and that incident gave them one. The intermissions are bit more enjoyable these days but still have long ways to go before being compared to that of other sports.

Also... just because he has "always" spoken that way, doesn't make it okay. You can't stay the same while the world around you changes.
 

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The community put up with Don Cherry for way longer than was expected. With all due respect to his prior contributions, he no longer provided much insight nor entertainment. I personally think CBC/SN was just looking for an excuse to lay him off, and that incident gave them one. The intermissions are bit more enjoyable these days but still have long ways to go before being compared to that of other sports.

Also... just because he has "always" spoken that way, doesn't make it okay. You can't stay the same while the world around you changes.
Sure you can. The Amish still get around by horse and buggy.
 

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To the point of Don Cherry, I think he was more of a byproduct of cancel culture rather than the result of. I hate cancel culture myself, but people getting cancelled have basis for it happening (ie. they are a shitbag) - only that I think cancel culture takes this to an extreme.

I'm sure if everyone was exposed in some way, they would get cancelled. I ain't no saint.
 

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Also... just because he has "always" spoken that way, doesn't make it okay. You can't stay the same while the world around you changes.
The changes you speak of have only occurred in the past 5 years at best, when Twitter started stealing people's souls.

Don Cherry has been on TV for 30+ years; speaking the same way all that time and being loved for it. Never once was it "problematic" until that moment.

Again, the only REAL reason he was cancelled was amounting to a SINGLE person being offended for associating "you people" to "immigrants", when that hardly the case to begin with.
 

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The changes you speak of have only occurred in the past 5 years at best, when Twitter started stealing people's souls.

Don Cherry has been on TV for 30+ years; speaking the same way all that time and being loved for it. Never once was it "problematic" until that moment.

Again, the only REAL reason he was cancelled was amounting to a SINGLE person being offended for associating "you people" to "immigrants", when that hardly the case to begin with.
I'm not sure if I follow. Who was the "single" person that was offended?

TBH, if you are new to the sport, Don Cherry is great. But after maybe a season, you'll see that everything is regurgitated - the stories, the soft Euros/Russians, the good ole Ontariahhhh boy, etc. Again, not to dispute the hive mind effect that social media tends to drive, but I guess we differ on our opinion of Cherry as a TV personality.
 

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Who was the "single" person that was offended?
Single relative to the majority, is what I meant... and that's what cancel culture does. It amplifies that single person's opinion to carry as much weight as 99% of people who do isn't so easily offended or even offended at all, or who very much like the content presented.


but I guess we differ on our opinion of Cherry as a TV personality.
The point wasn't whether or not we like Cherry. It was about him being a victim of cancel culture, unjustly being fired from a job, because some random few people didn't like the way he spoke, when everyone else still adored him.

You said before:
The community put up with Don Cherry for way longer than was expected.
Okay...so why don't the ratings speak for themselves, instead of allowing that single person or small group of people turn on the outrage machine to bully him out?

If Don Cherry was on the air too long, then his ratings should've bombed, and CBC would've forced retirement on him more gracefully. So who are you/they to make such assumption when there was plenty of people who still thoroughly enjoy, and would've loved to see him make it to retirement properly.

...it basically comes down to a minority of entitled people too stupid to change the channel and grow a stronger spine and thicker skin.
 

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Single relative to the majority, is what I meant... and that's what cancel culture does. It amplifies that single person's opinion to carry as much weight as 99% of people who do isn't so easily offended or even offended at all, or who very much like the content presented.




The point wasn't whether or not we like Cherry. It was about him being a victim of cancel culture, unjustly being fired from a job, because some random few people didn't like the way he spoke, when everyone else still adored him.

You said before:


Okay...so why don't the ratings speak for themselves, instead of allowing that single person or small group of people turn on the outrage machine to bully him out?

If Don Cherry was on the air too long, then his ratings should've bombed, and CBC would've forced retirement on him more gracefully. So who are you/they to make such assumption when there was plenty of people who still thoroughly enjoy, and would've loved to see him make it to retirement properly.

...it basically comes down to a minority of entitled people too stupid to change the channel and grow a stronger spine and thicker skin.
Personally I didn't care for Don Cherry. I am one of those people who decided to change the channel. He didn't impress me.
 
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Personally I didn't care for Don Cherry. I am one of those people who decided to change the channel. He didn't impress me.
And if more people simply did this, cancel culture likely wouldn't be a problem. This is the right response! :)
 
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Everyone seems to get offended by everything nowadays and are overly sensitive whiners.

It is fucking pathetic to be quite honest.
 
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I didn’t mind Don Cherry. He was a patriotic Canadian and always promoted the military. When he profiled the soldiers that were killed in Afghanistan on Coach’s Corner it was a very heart felt gesture.
 
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