BILL RUSSELL come on girls let get this guy
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Did you file a police report?
He is still out there, because not enough girls are going to the police. He continues, because he thinks he can get away with it.
He is still out there, because not enough girls are going to the police. He continues, because he thinks he can get away with it.
I went to the police, filed a report, went into questioning, they took my clothes, made me do a medical examination...
and they let him go this morning at 10 am....
Obviously, he needs to kill someone before he can be stopped...
So girls, who knows where he lives?
and they let him go this morning at 10 am....
Obviously, he needs to kill someone before he can be stopped...
So girls, who knows where he lives?
OMG im so sorry that this happened to you. I really hope that someone has the info to help catch him.
I need more information regarding this matter...
what are the specifics and what did the police say...
Jesus, what a bunch of assholes...so the next time a cop gets shot and killed on the job, oh well, it's a risk of the job?I reported him to the police and all they said was, "guess it's part of the job".
BTW, who's this Bill Russell dude? If he's so well known, why don't Sps just ban his ass?
Media would be the best solution to the problem. Come forward as a group to every local media group and make sure every woman has filed a report.
Anything else that anyone does would just anger him making it worse and more likely that he would become more violent.
Anything else that anyone does would just anger him making it worse and more likely that he would become more violent.
we are working on it. we are going to appeal to vancouver's sex industry liaison officer to help us. she as a police officer tends to get a little more action out of her cohorts then us lowly sp's.
i am so sorry this happened to you.
we could come forward as a group to media....the BCCEC or the WCCSIP could bring it forward. i have already compiled 4 of the incidents info and this makes 5. we could refuse to out sp's who reported (there is precedent in federal policy for this) and protect people's identities....it strikes me that confidentiality and stigma are some of the main reasons nothing is getting done yet...and i completely understand why people value their privacy.
i will push forward with police and i guess i will ask...should i write a press release? i could post it here and people could contribute/edit/etc...? let me know. i think that a press release will go a long way to alert other women and sp's about this dangerous serial rapist...maybe we have a ressponsibility to do it...?
what do people think...?
i am so sorry this happened to you.
we could come forward as a group to media....the BCCEC or the WCCSIP could bring it forward. i have already compiled 4 of the incidents info and this makes 5. we could refuse to out sp's who reported (there is precedent in federal policy for this) and protect people's identities....it strikes me that confidentiality and stigma are some of the main reasons nothing is getting done yet...and i completely understand why people value their privacy.
i will push forward with police and i guess i will ask...should i write a press release? i could post it here and people could contribute/edit/etc...? let me know. i think that a press release will go a long way to alert other women and sp's about this dangerous serial rapist...maybe we have a ressponsibility to do it...?
what do people think...?
also, here is the link to trade secrets rights and responsibilities section- about 1/2way down is a section on what to expect if you are the victim of a crime.
http://tradesecretsguide.blogspot.com/search/label/Our Rights and Responsibilities
Help is Available
If you are a sex industry worker and have been the victim of a crime, YOU DO QUALIFY FOR SUPPORT and YOU DO HAVE RIGHTS. No matter what you are told to the contrary, help is available through VictimLINK and the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General.
Sex industry workers may feel frustrated when dealing with the criminal justice system after being a victim of crime. As sex industry workers we often experience added trauma as we are judged or devalued because of our occupation and the prejudices of others during the process. Lack of education and understanding has made it difficult for sex industry workers to access Victim Services and the supports that are available for ALL victims of crime.
The BC Government has programs created specifically for victims and the information has been included here to support you in accessing these programs. However, you should be prepared for delays as some barriers still exist.
The following information should assist you on your journey. Remember that you are strong, you are powerful and resourceful. No one and nothing can ever take that from you.
Dealing with the after-effects of Violence
If you have been the victim of a serious crime it is very normal to feel
Overwhelmed
Depressed
Anger or rage
Fear
Confusion
Numbness
Shame
Powerlessness
Or do things like:
Use drugs or alcohol to cope and/ or forget
Go back to work
Take greater risks
Withdraw and isolate
What can I expect to experience personally?
People experience a wide range of physical and emotional changes over a short period of time while others experience feelings long after the crime has taken place. You may find that your reaction will change from day to day or from week to week.
Victims of crime have some common experiences. For example you may feel just fine and then suddenly you break down and feelings of powerlessness, rage or sadness return. During these times remember that the feelings will pass.
Triggers
Triggers are things that cause physical, mental, or emotional changes within us such as a certain smell, sound, place, or person.
When the intensity of these feelings has passed, identify any particular smells, touch, place, and/or sound that may have set off the intense feelings and reminders of the crime.
Getting a sense of your triggers can help you avoid situations where you may encounter them. Involvement in the sex industry can mean that you will HAVE to return to places and situations that may trigger you. If you plan to return to work in the sex industry, it is wise to develop a plan to help you cope.
Returning to work
Sex workers often have to return to the scene of the crime in order to continue to earn their living.
Where possible, try to make a return to work safety plan with a friend or a sex worker advocate that addresses any fears you may have and will help you plan in advance how to handle being triggered should it occur. You may want to create your own self-care plan; rituals and routines that make you feel safer.
Creating a self-care safety plan and making it a daily routine in your life will also help you cope with returning to work.
Self Care
Self-care is not just a tool for victims of crime but for every human being. Creating a strong self-care plan keeps you healthy and increases your resiliency (ability to ‘spring back’).
What should you do if you are the victim of a crime?
There are many things to consider if you have been the victim of a crime. Your physical and emotional health is at risk and the decisions you make can impact your life for years to come.
The filling out of police reports and proceeding with criminal charges can be a difficult and painful process and as a sex worker you may even encounter people who are insensitive in their handling of your case.
Details of your private life may become public and your privacy compromised. The consequences of being “outed” as a sex worker can affect many aspects of your life both personally and professionally.
So Why Report?
The safety of other sex workers depends on the prosecution of the people who commit crimes against us. Choosing to go forward with criminal charges will protect other sex workers from experiencing the crime that you have. Proceeding with charges can also change the way society and the justice system handles our cases.
You will have to be strong as well as patient but you don’t have to be alone. An important step in dealing with the effects of a crime is to talk about it with someone you feel comfortable with. Friends and family can be a great source of support and if you are uncomfortable with talking to someone you know, VictimLINK (see resource section) can put you in touch with over 150 victim service programs across the province. They can also connect you with a sex worker serving organization who can try to answer any questions you may have in regard to the risks and benefits of filing criminal charges.
http://tradesecretsguide.blogspot.com/search/label/Our Rights and Responsibilities
Help is Available
If you are a sex industry worker and have been the victim of a crime, YOU DO QUALIFY FOR SUPPORT and YOU DO HAVE RIGHTS. No matter what you are told to the contrary, help is available through VictimLINK and the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General.
Sex industry workers may feel frustrated when dealing with the criminal justice system after being a victim of crime. As sex industry workers we often experience added trauma as we are judged or devalued because of our occupation and the prejudices of others during the process. Lack of education and understanding has made it difficult for sex industry workers to access Victim Services and the supports that are available for ALL victims of crime.
The BC Government has programs created specifically for victims and the information has been included here to support you in accessing these programs. However, you should be prepared for delays as some barriers still exist.
The following information should assist you on your journey. Remember that you are strong, you are powerful and resourceful. No one and nothing can ever take that from you.
Dealing with the after-effects of Violence
If you have been the victim of a serious crime it is very normal to feel
Overwhelmed
Depressed
Anger or rage
Fear
Confusion
Numbness
Shame
Powerlessness
Or do things like:
Use drugs or alcohol to cope and/ or forget
Go back to work
Take greater risks
Withdraw and isolate
What can I expect to experience personally?
People experience a wide range of physical and emotional changes over a short period of time while others experience feelings long after the crime has taken place. You may find that your reaction will change from day to day or from week to week.
Victims of crime have some common experiences. For example you may feel just fine and then suddenly you break down and feelings of powerlessness, rage or sadness return. During these times remember that the feelings will pass.
Triggers
Triggers are things that cause physical, mental, or emotional changes within us such as a certain smell, sound, place, or person.
When the intensity of these feelings has passed, identify any particular smells, touch, place, and/or sound that may have set off the intense feelings and reminders of the crime.
Getting a sense of your triggers can help you avoid situations where you may encounter them. Involvement in the sex industry can mean that you will HAVE to return to places and situations that may trigger you. If you plan to return to work in the sex industry, it is wise to develop a plan to help you cope.
Returning to work
Sex workers often have to return to the scene of the crime in order to continue to earn their living.
Where possible, try to make a return to work safety plan with a friend or a sex worker advocate that addresses any fears you may have and will help you plan in advance how to handle being triggered should it occur. You may want to create your own self-care plan; rituals and routines that make you feel safer.
Creating a self-care safety plan and making it a daily routine in your life will also help you cope with returning to work.
Self Care
Self-care is not just a tool for victims of crime but for every human being. Creating a strong self-care plan keeps you healthy and increases your resiliency (ability to ‘spring back’).
What should you do if you are the victim of a crime?
There are many things to consider if you have been the victim of a crime. Your physical and emotional health is at risk and the decisions you make can impact your life for years to come.
The filling out of police reports and proceeding with criminal charges can be a difficult and painful process and as a sex worker you may even encounter people who are insensitive in their handling of your case.
Details of your private life may become public and your privacy compromised. The consequences of being “outed” as a sex worker can affect many aspects of your life both personally and professionally.
So Why Report?
The safety of other sex workers depends on the prosecution of the people who commit crimes against us. Choosing to go forward with criminal charges will protect other sex workers from experiencing the crime that you have. Proceeding with charges can also change the way society and the justice system handles our cases.
You will have to be strong as well as patient but you don’t have to be alone. An important step in dealing with the effects of a crime is to talk about it with someone you feel comfortable with. Friends and family can be a great source of support and if you are uncomfortable with talking to someone you know, VictimLINK (see resource section) can put you in touch with over 150 victim service programs across the province. They can also connect you with a sex worker serving organization who can try to answer any questions you may have in regard to the risks and benefits of filing criminal charges.
ok, this is what i wrote, please feel free to edit comment.....
For Immediate Release
2010-01-28
Vancouver. BC
RE: Lower mainland Sex Workers plagued by Serial Rapist
The BC Coalition of Experiential Communities (BCCEC) would like to alert the public about a dangerous offender. Over the past couple of years this man has repeatedly unlawfully confined, assaulted, robbed and raped sex workers throughout the lower mainland.
In spite of numerous reports to police about this man’s dangerous behaviour, he continues to walk free, cruising for more victims. It seems as if the tragedy of Vancouver’s missing women has once again been ignored by some lower mainland police departments with one escort being told by officers, “I guess it’s part of your job…”.
Even in the face of total failure on the part of police to protect sex workers, they still seem to be ignoring violence reported by us. This is a blatant dismissal of the International Charter of Human Rights in that ALL people are equal and entitled to life, liberty and security of person and to equal protection of law.
We ask the question, if this man was raping nurses or teenage girls, would police dismiss his crimes so easily? This man’s behaviours are escalating and our fear is he will no longer be satisfied with merely hurting us. How will police feel if this man kills a lower mainland sex worker or if he escalates further and kills a non sex working woman?
As a society we should be outraged that even after all of the violence endured by the sex working community, the criminal justice system still refuses to treat violence against sex workers as a serious crime.
Sex workers do not deserve to be raped and assaulted; it is not a part of our job. We have the right to the same protections as other Canadian citizens. This type of systematic prejudice is the reason sex workers are killed with complacency.
Vancouver Sex Workers and the BCCEC demand immediate action against this serial rapist and want the public to be aware he exists for their protection from him. We will not allow another violent offender to go unchecked as a result of discrimination by police. He is particularly drawn to younger workers especially those with little or no experience.
Prostitution is not illegal in Canada and sex workers have fundamental rights to work, to be given the tools to do their job safely and to be safe at work as seen in article 6 of part 3 of the international charter of human rights.
The compromising of the human rights of sex workers as a way to combat organized crime or save children is ridiculous and the fact that the charter itself states that no clause in the charter may be used to undermine the rights of any person shows the hypocrisy of the systems intended to protect us. These contradictions are the reason the situation has become so dangerous for my community and the reason why we are seen as disposable or less and why violating our rights has become common place. Sex workers are no longer willing to watch our community members die. We are no longer willing to accept this bias in our treatment by society at large. We will stand up and hold those people and systems that have allowed this to happen accountable.
The BCCEC are asking people to contact the Attorney General by phone or by mail (mike.dejong.mla@leg.bc.ca; 250 387-1866) in support of the call for a public inquiry into the circumstances surrounding Canada’s missing women’s cases and to demand justice for sex workers.
Contact: Susan Davis BCCEC Member- XXX_XXX_XXXX
and then i could post his info...? we have his adress, description, phone numbers, license plate number, aliases, description of cars.....
let me know!i sent the email to sx industry liaison officer also so hopefully that will kick start some action....
love susie
For Immediate Release
2010-01-28
Vancouver. BC
RE: Lower mainland Sex Workers plagued by Serial Rapist
The BC Coalition of Experiential Communities (BCCEC) would like to alert the public about a dangerous offender. Over the past couple of years this man has repeatedly unlawfully confined, assaulted, robbed and raped sex workers throughout the lower mainland.
In spite of numerous reports to police about this man’s dangerous behaviour, he continues to walk free, cruising for more victims. It seems as if the tragedy of Vancouver’s missing women has once again been ignored by some lower mainland police departments with one escort being told by officers, “I guess it’s part of your job…”.
Even in the face of total failure on the part of police to protect sex workers, they still seem to be ignoring violence reported by us. This is a blatant dismissal of the International Charter of Human Rights in that ALL people are equal and entitled to life, liberty and security of person and to equal protection of law.
We ask the question, if this man was raping nurses or teenage girls, would police dismiss his crimes so easily? This man’s behaviours are escalating and our fear is he will no longer be satisfied with merely hurting us. How will police feel if this man kills a lower mainland sex worker or if he escalates further and kills a non sex working woman?
As a society we should be outraged that even after all of the violence endured by the sex working community, the criminal justice system still refuses to treat violence against sex workers as a serious crime.
Sex workers do not deserve to be raped and assaulted; it is not a part of our job. We have the right to the same protections as other Canadian citizens. This type of systematic prejudice is the reason sex workers are killed with complacency.
Vancouver Sex Workers and the BCCEC demand immediate action against this serial rapist and want the public to be aware he exists for their protection from him. We will not allow another violent offender to go unchecked as a result of discrimination by police. He is particularly drawn to younger workers especially those with little or no experience.
Prostitution is not illegal in Canada and sex workers have fundamental rights to work, to be given the tools to do their job safely and to be safe at work as seen in article 6 of part 3 of the international charter of human rights.
The compromising of the human rights of sex workers as a way to combat organized crime or save children is ridiculous and the fact that the charter itself states that no clause in the charter may be used to undermine the rights of any person shows the hypocrisy of the systems intended to protect us. These contradictions are the reason the situation has become so dangerous for my community and the reason why we are seen as disposable or less and why violating our rights has become common place. Sex workers are no longer willing to watch our community members die. We are no longer willing to accept this bias in our treatment by society at large. We will stand up and hold those people and systems that have allowed this to happen accountable.
The BCCEC are asking people to contact the Attorney General by phone or by mail (mike.dejong.mla@leg.bc.ca; 250 387-1866) in support of the call for a public inquiry into the circumstances surrounding Canada’s missing women’s cases and to demand justice for sex workers.
Contact: Susan Davis BCCEC Member- XXX_XXX_XXXX
and then i could post his info...? we have his adress, description, phone numbers, license plate number, aliases, description of cars.....
let me know!i sent the email to sx industry liaison officer also so hopefully that will kick start some action....
love susie
ok,i added ssome to this part about strangling. i think you are right ...there should be more emphasis on what he does.......
We ask the question, if this man was raping nurses or teenage girls, would police dismiss his crimes so easily? This man’s behaviours are escalating to strangling workers and attempted murder and our fear is he will no longer be satisfied with merely hurting us. How will police feel if this man strangles and kills a lower mainland sex worker or if he escalates further and kills a non sex working woman?
We ask the question, if this man was raping nurses or teenage girls, would police dismiss his crimes so easily? This man’s behaviours are escalating to strangling workers and attempted murder and our fear is he will no longer be satisfied with merely hurting us. How will police feel if this man strangles and kills a lower mainland sex worker or if he escalates further and kills a non sex working woman?
Hi Susi,
That's a very well written piece...as an article or intro letter to submit to the media in hopes that it will peek further interest from a reporter. As a press releases, I'm not sure who or where you would submit it ...for that matter if anyone would really care. It almost sounds like a VERY well written venting post in a forum. If you target who you are sending it to, you are bound to get it into the right eyeballs eventually. And the five incidents you cited, make sure the five girls are aware of your intentions and that they are prepared and willing to speak to a reporter(for crediability) should one choose to pick-up the story.
Good luck! Lets get this sucker!
That's a very well written piece...as an article or intro letter to submit to the media in hopes that it will peek further interest from a reporter. As a press releases, I'm not sure who or where you would submit it ...for that matter if anyone would really care. It almost sounds like a VERY well written venting post in a forum. If you target who you are sending it to, you are bound to get it into the right eyeballs eventually. And the five incidents you cited, make sure the five girls are aware of your intentions and that they are prepared and willing to speak to a reporter(for crediability) should one choose to pick-up the story.
Good luck! Lets get this sucker!
thanks!!!
i will not be including any info about his victims or connecting them with reporters. i just don't want t trigger anyone and reporters can be quite rude and unfeeling. i will field all enquiries....credibility be damned!!my credibility should be enough after all the advocacy i do...i just know from past discussions that many workers do not want to be "out" in media....that said, if i am wrong let me know ladies!!if an affected worker would like to speak to media let me know.
love susie
ps- am going to a meeting now so will not send it out until tomorrow. that way everyone can take a look, comment,etc before it goes out!
i will not be including any info about his victims or connecting them with reporters. i just don't want t trigger anyone and reporters can be quite rude and unfeeling. i will field all enquiries....credibility be damned!!my credibility should be enough after all the advocacy i do...i just know from past discussions that many workers do not want to be "out" in media....that said, if i am wrong let me know ladies!!if an affected worker would like to speak to media let me know.
love susie
ps- am going to a meeting now so will not send it out until tomorrow. that way everyone can take a look, comment,etc before it goes out!
why not put it on the record...
I question the legitimacy of the original post...
could Mrs. Mae be Susi...
grandstanding...
I doubt it. She's spent a lot of time building credibility and to toss it down the toilet like you do with your intellect with a 'grandstanding post' is illogical. Hell, maybe you're this Russell fella....see how it feels to be irresponsible with tossing out bullshit?
Just when I thought you couldn't say any thing as stupid as some of your other comments, you have reached a new low.
You keep proving that you are worthy competition for silky.
