BC election thread

badbadboy

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Horgan broke his agreement (by over a year remaining)with the Greens and is banking on a majority this time. If it’s Minority Govt again, chances are very unlikely of support from Greens.

Liberals - liars and crooks. I hope their negligence in handling the Casinos and Money Laundering is finally brought to public scrutiny.

I guess I’m voting Greens again.

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604jbear

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I wonder what voter turnout will be like if the number of covid cases continue to increase

edit: also, aren't 7 cabinet ministers resigning? I know Carole James stepping down due to medical reasons, but not sure about the rest
 

PierreCoeur

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I will vote green for my very first time. It is the only party in my many many years of voting that I had not voted for. But just to be clear if the green are ever elected, they will be as corrupt and deceitful as all the other pigs at the trough.

I don't think an honest politician exists.
 
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chico1

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Better NDP majority than coalition with Greens. So this might be a good thing.

I will never vote for Greens. They are now more corrupt and lie more, than any of the major parties. Can you imagine what will it look like under their government?
 

Bridge

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Better NDP majority than coalition with Greens. So this might be a good thing.

I will never vote for Greens. They are now more corrupt and lie more, than any of the major parties. Can you imagine what will it look like under their government?
I would love to know what you base your sweeping generalisation on? What do mean by "corruption" and where is your evidence of lies. I understand that you will not vote for the Greens and that is fine, but to effectively state "they suck" without backing it up is hardly the basis for political dialogue!!!
 

Bridge

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I will vote green for my very first time. It is the only party in my many many years of voting that I had not voted for. But just to be clear if the green are ever elected, they will be as corrupt and deceitful as all the other pigs at the trough.

I don't think an honest politician exists.
So how can the system be changed for the better so that your idealism is awakened and your cynicism is put to bed??
 

take8easy

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I have never been a fan of BC Liberals so I have been voting NDP right from the start. This time around, I found myself really disagreeing with Horgan and his crew on some decisions but honestly, I will still go back and vote for them.

I hope they win the majority because minority govts are not good for anyone. Greens have yet to prove themselves so.... NDP for me again.
 
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Post Malone

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I will vote green for my very first time. It is the only party in my many many years of voting that I had not voted for. But just to be clear if the green are ever elected, they will be as corrupt and deceitful as all the other pigs at the trough.

I don't think an honest politician exists.
Exactly. Even the Green Party let Site C and Fracking slide once the agreement was made, after campaigning against both.
 

80watts

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Minority governments are the best.... why, they have to give from both sides of the line (right and left), with another party dictating what they want. With a majority gov the party seems to have this "shit doesn't stink" attitude.
Any way it will be Liberal majority- why because Horton hasn't done anything of great notice, just played along.... The next government will have to do some ass kicking (meaning raising taxes). med sized businesses and large will get an increase in taxes too.
The key word for this election will be TAXES. or spin it another way "profit orientated ventures".
 

theloadmaster

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I will never vote NDP for as long as I live. Their track record never changes - under deliver and over budget. The massey tunnel/bridge project was something that should have been made 6-7 lanes in each direction 20 years ago. The liberals, albeit late, finally decided to greenlight the project. The NDP are just wasting time now and as usual won’t accomplish much of anything - and when they do, it’ll be already obsolete and inadequate and cost 3x as much as the original proposals thanks to unions and inflation.

My support for the liberals is waning. The casino/laundering scandals are not an easy pill to swallow either.

Not much of a choice yet again honestly. Fucked if we do, fucked if we don’t.
 
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hedgeman

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I wonder what voter turnout will be like if the number of covid cases continue to increase

edit: also, aren't 7 cabinet ministers resigning? I know Carole James stepping down due to medical reasons, but not sure about the rest
Ill vote in person, and do what I do when I go to any public place, santize my hands with alcohol hand sani, wear a mask while I'm out, and clean my hands again when I get back to my car and put the mask away... *shrugs, been working for me for 6 months now so why change?
 
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take8easy

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Do you think Dr Bonnie Henry should run as an NDP (or whatever party she chooses) candidate?

I would recommend that she does and be next health minister. Do you think you would vote for her? Do you think she would win?

I started a new thread about it but it was taken down, so I decided to bring it up here.
 

Shanghai

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NDP is a shoe-in to win a majority since Horgan's approval rating is the highest of all the Premiere's in Canada. Each daily Covid briefing serves as priceless pre-election advertising showing how competent they are handling the so-called 'crisis'.

The video response of the opposing parties looks like they are jealous. They know full well they don't have a chance. NDP screwed over the Greens, the Greens contributed nothing to the partnership, Andrew left and no one knows anything about the new lady that replaced him except for her shrewish video response to the election call.

The NDP party overspends naturally in order to curry favour with their union buddies that vote them in, but now they have this Covid bullshit to use as an excuse.

The Liberals are more fiscally responsible, it's just too bad the Christie era painted them as self-serving corrupt manipulators.

Anyways, I'm voting for Trump as the lesser evil. What's not to like? He's entertaining and likes his golden showers and talks about grabing pussy; meanwhile Boring Biden is a even more clueless moron that gets too touchy-feely and finger-bangs his staff.
 
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CanineCowboy

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I think the Greens will keep two or three of their seats, but the Liberals should bleed a few to the NDP due to Horgan's popularity, giving them their desired majority.

The only thing I can possibly see standing in the NDP's way is the BCTF and their campaign to stir up parental fear and anxiety. If it proves too successful and shifts momentum towards the Liberals, who are also critical of the government's back to school plan, the BCTF may end up regretting their new masters.

Dr. Henry is a great public health expert, it is best she stay out of politics.
 
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take8easy

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NDP is a shoe-in to win a majority since Horgan's approval rating is the highest of all the Premiere's in Canada. Each daily Covid briefing serves as priceless pre-election advertising showing how competent they are handling the so-called 'crisis'.

The video response of the opposing parties looks like they are jealous. They know full well they don't have a chance. NDP screwed over the Greens, the Greens contributed nothing to the partnership, Andrew left and no one knows anything about the new lady that replaced him except for her shrewish video response to the election call.

The NDP party overspends naturally in order to curry favour with their union buddies that vote them in, but now they have this Covid bullshit to use as an excuse.

The Liberals are more fiscally responsible, it's just too bad the Christie era painted them as self-serving corrupt manipulators.

Anyways, I'm voting for Trump as the lesser evil. What's not to like? He's entertaining and likes his golden showers and talks about grabing pussy; meanwhile Boring Biden is a even more clueless moron that gets too touchy-feely and finger-bangs his staff.
I am going to be the second guy behind you voting for him. I hope there is just two of us.

All jokes aside, this world needs more narcist, pussy grabbing, rude, brash, misogynist, racist, cheap, classless, corrupt, full of shit assholes. Go Trump Go !
 

take8easy

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No. Simply put, she's in a position of authority that demands neutrality and freedom from party affiliations.
How long does it take one to resign and join the evil world of BC politics?
 

Shanghai

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Wouldn't you agree, that it makes sense that large infrastructure projects in any province would best benefit workers living in said province? Community Benefit Agreements make a lot of sense, get people living in your province working in your province. Money that goes to workers in BC, tends to be spent in BC - whereas money that goes to out of province workers tends to leave the province. As it stands, those "dirty unions" are on the losing end of a majority of projects - non-union companies currently end up with 70% of contracts.

Fiscally responsible, how?
My sense is the Liberals favour big businesses and entrepeneurs, encourage diversification, are fine with big-dollar investments even if this is at the expense of the environment; they will claw back cash from welfare bums and they try harder to balance the budget.

The idea of Liberalism fits BC's makeup more than NDP, it just seems they don't have a good crew and strong enough and charismatic enough leader at this point in time.

NDP focuses more on growing government, and public employees are all unionized. They care less about balancing the budget, given their history (in BC, anyways). By comparison to the Liberals, the NDP so far has not committed any of the sort of embarrassable moments the Liberals who seemed to have a some sort of scandal erupt every month or two. Those past problems emanated from the top.
 

too timid

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disclaimer; i am uneducated and apologize for any inaccuracies.

i have no allegiance to any polical party or ideology and not sure how i will vote but one thing im pretty of is that questionable practices and money laudering had been taking place from as early as 1991. As an adolescent i would get into some casinos uncarded and see people feed video style machines with thousands of dollars throw $2 away into gaming print a paper stub from said machine and then receive a cheque for the remainder to be deposited clean and tax free. Maybe not as big a deal as what we seen in later years with large amounts being changed without a verified source but i imagine these loop holes date back to social credit leadership.

i also have a hard time forgetting bingo gate under Harcourts NDPs leadership, what happened to those millions that were diverted and 'lost'? i believe Clark was also implicated in receiving benefits from a friend who was awarded a gaming licence, and what a mess/loss with the fast ferries.

Campbells reign didn't seem much better, as he acted as tho he was above the law ( as small and understandable as the charge he received , you would think that as the leader of a province one would lead by example.) Not to mention the benefits his affluent friends received ie 'run of the river ' and while im probably wrong, privatizing services and contracts with gold lined parachutes. i believe he may have also had a 3rd party paid lobbyist on his payroll ,conflict much?

Weaver gets the power position and rolls over for Horgan.
Horgan does what he says he wont do .

i am a big fan of Orwell , Animal Farm continues to be relevant
 

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As an adolescent i would get into some casinos uncarded and see people feed video style machines with thousands of dollars throw $2 away into gaming print a paper stub from said machine and then receive a cheque for the remainder to be deposited clean and tax free. Maybe not as big a deal as what we seen in later years with large amounts being changed without a verified source but i imagine these loop holes date back to social credit leadership.
Pumping thousands of dollars into a slot machine is not a "loophole." Now, if you know anything about regulated gaming, the provincial government's take on table games and slots are probably close to 50%. So using your example about the guy that pumped thousands into a "video style machine" and played $2 worth of the game. That $2 "loss" generated about $1 of revenue for the government! Doesn't sound like alot, but in 2019 BCLC's take on table games and slots inside BC casinos's totaled almost $2 billion dollars! BCLC's net income that year was well over $1 billion. And since BCLC is a crown corporation, that's government revenue used to help pay for our roads, schools, hospitals, etc. You can whine all you want about how "this" government or "that" government should've stopped the money laundering going on in casinos or the housing market or whatever. No government is really incentivized to do anything serious about it if it were to mean losing potentially losing a billion dollars annually in tax revenue!

https://corporate.bclc.com/content/dam/bclccorporate/documents/fact-sheets/FS-where-money-goes.pdf
 
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