Barbarian Islam

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Interesting read:

"Islam, Christianity and Judaism are patriarchal, monotheistic religions and are bound by one thing - their contempt of women!

When confronted with the issue of women's plight in Muslim countries, Muslim apologists insist that their religion has been misunderstood and that Islam actually grants women certain rights. They blame tradition and tribal societies for the low status and oppression of women.

Since Islam exerts absolute power over every aspect of Muslim society, from diet to relations between the sexes, why has it failed in fourteen centuries of its existence, to eradicate injustices against half of its adherents?

Turkey's women are the most liberated in the Muslim world. This was achieved not through Islamic reformation but through secularisation established by the founder of the modern Turkish republic Kemal Ataturk. Kemal was the product of secular education and had always admired Western culture. He pursued a program of westernisation that affected all aspects of Turkish life - women were granted the vote and veiling was prohibited. If the Turkish system were to collapse and replaced by an Islamic theocracy we can be certain that women's progress will be reversed and women will be at the mercy of the mullahs. In countries where there has been a raise in fundamentalism and reversal to strict religious law such as Pakistan, Sudan and Afghanistan women are targeted with vengeance and brutality.

Some Muslim scholars agree that Mohammed did proclaim some rights for Muslim women. For example he abolished the pre-Islamic Arabian custom of burying alive unwanted female infants. He also decreed that women could own and inherit property, and that women have the right to enjoy sex!

However, he did enshrine women's inequality and inferior status in immutable Quranic law accepted by Muslims as the infallible word of God.

“Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to the other, and because men spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those among you who fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” Sura 4:34

“...Women shall with justice have rights similar to those exercised against them, although men have a status above women. God is mighty and wise.” Sura 2:228

Under Shari'a - Islamic law - a man can marry up to four wives. He can divorce his wife or wives by saying “I divorce you” three times. For a wife to obtain a divorce is usually very difficult. Muslim apologists claim that Muslim women have the right to divorce and that in Islam the mother is revered and respected. Upon divorce, fathers win custody of boys over the age of six and girls on the onset of puberty. Many women would be reluctant to divorce violent or polygynous husbands for fear of losing their children. Despite the exaltation of motherhood - Mohammed once told a follower that paradise is found at the feet of the mother - children are considered the property of the father with the mother being merely the caretaker. How is it possible for a Muslim man to respect his mother when immutable religious law proclaims women's inferiority and inadequacy?"

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http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/islamrights.htm
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Fundamentalists of any faith are dangerous.
 

Randy Whorewald

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u call that barbaric??? please....
What are your favorite parts?

"Good women are obedient"?

“...Women shall with justice have rights similar to those exercised against them, although men have a status above women. God is mighty and wise.” Sura 2:228" ?

"Under Shari'a - Islamic law - a man can marry up to four wives. He can divorce his wife or wives by saying “I divorce you” three times. For a wife to obtain a divorce is usually very difficult."

"Under the Shari'a, compensation for the murder of a woman is half the amount of that of a man. A woman's testimony in court is worth only half of a man's. Women are entitled to only half the inheritance of males;"

'Girls as young as nine can be married off by their father even if the mother disapproves of the marriage, often they end up as second or third wives of much older men "


....that's just for starters, I could list more.
 

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shari'a is man made rules and law, and trying to be as fundamental as possible
1500 years ago.........

qur'an is words spoken to Mohammed from God (most quoted prophet is Jesus)

hope that helps
 

Randy Whorewald

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shari'a is man made rules and law, and trying to be as fundamental as possible
1500 years ago.........

qur'an is words spoken to Mohammed from God (most quoted prophet is Jesus)

hope that helps
And your point is....?:confused:

The fact of the matter is, and the point of my post was, women are treated worse than cattle in some Muslim countries.



Did you know that under the Taliban 9 million Afghan women and girls had no human rights?
Women and girls were forbidden to go to school or work outside of the home.
Women and girls could not leave their homes without a male relative.
Women were forced to wear a head-to-toe covering called a "burqa" with only a small mesh opening through which to breathe and see.
Women were beaten and killed for not being properly covered or escorted.
The windows of homes occupied by women had to be be painted to prevent women from being seen.
Health care for Afghan women and girls was virtually non-existent since male doctors could not care for female patients.
Women were forbidden from speaking in public.
Pubescent girls and women were prohibited from speaking to males who are not close relatives.
How did this happen?
On September 27, 1996, the Taliban, an extremist militia claiming to be Islamic fundamentalists, seized power in a violent takeover of the government.
The Taliban government instituted its sexist policy under the guise of religious observance.
Before the Taliban takeover, Afghan women were:
60% of teachers at Kabul University
50% of students at Kabul University
50% of civilian the government workforce
70% of school teachers
40% of doctors
The Taliban is fundamentally wrong!
The Taliban government's persecution was in the name of religion. While the Taliban claims religious purity, Afghanistan grew 40% of the world's opium supply. After the Taliban's takeover, opium production increased 25%.
There has been a devastating effect on tens of thousands of families because many women in Afghanistan are widows and were the sole source of income for their families.
Since women were prohibited from working, many schools have been closed down because of a teacher shortage.
 
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