Are Western sex workers reluctant to kiss?
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I know DATY is quite safe, but i'm not wired for it. I'm wired selfishly.But that wouldn't be safe now, would it?ound:
You know it's gonna be a good day when you can peel an orange in one continuous peelThat reminded me of a post I wrote a long time ago (couldn't find the thread) ...
There was a thread started by a guy that got squirted on by a lady.
Another guy posted in the thread, "I ate an orange at lunch today. It squirted all over me. Does that count?"
This was my response to his post:
Only if you slowly peeled the skin off the orange ... leaving the flesh intact ... all the sections still tight together ...
... then gently cradling the plump, juicy orange in the palm of one hand ...
... you ever so carefully put the tip of your finger against the place where all the sections join together ...
... delicately separating the tips of the sections ... spreading them apart until you can see deep down inside the glistening wet depths ...
... and then ... you begin to insert your finger ... probing deeper and deeper ... feeling the flesh give way as you exert just a bit more pressure ...
... then you slowly curl the end of your finger up ... and begin moving it in a small circular motion ... you can feel the pressure starting to build ...
... feel the moisture straining to be released from beneath the almost transparent flesh ... then it bursts ... and the sweet nectar squirts out all over ...
... all over your fingers ... dripping down your hand ... the drips of moisture lightly sprinkled on your cheeks and lips ...
Then it counts. xo
his thoughts on me saying im happily married.
But I think love takes a lot of courage and soul searching, its a gift,
My wife and me were just two lonely people, many many years ago. Neither one of us had a lot of courage or did a lot of soul searching.
My job I see a lot of women, talked to them whatever even been involved with two sp's still see one.
And you know most people just want to take, most people I think are so afraid and insecure.
My point is I don't see a lot of difference in the women out there, they want something from you,
but there not willing to give you anything,
They take it all but, what the fuck do they give you in return.
And to be honest men are just the same,
That is why relationships so many of them are failed, or dysfunctional.
How many people do you know that are really and truely in love. Soul mates.
How many actual really good friends,
What is that quote about a friend walking to the gallows with you.
People are so fucking afraid.
And I don't understand what there afraid of.
yeah I know.
But I think love takes a lot of courage and soul searching, its a gift,
My wife and me were just two lonely people, many many years ago. Neither one of us had a lot of courage or did a lot of soul searching.
My job I see a lot of women, talked to them whatever even been involved with two sp's still see one.
And you know most people just want to take, most people I think are so afraid and insecure.
My point is I don't see a lot of difference in the women out there, they want something from you,
but there not willing to give you anything,
They take it all but, what the fuck do they give you in return.
And to be honest men are just the same,
That is why relationships so many of them are failed, or dysfunctional.
How many people do you know that are really and truely in love. Soul mates.
How many actual really good friends,
What is that quote about a friend walking to the gallows with you.
People are so fucking afraid.
And I don't understand what there afraid of.
Coincidence. I was just reading a book set in the early nineteen hundreds where it mentions prostitutes don't kiss. I know we didn't in the eighties (although some independents probably did, but not the professionals)
Many different kinds of kissing, and kissing is common in some cultures and largely absent in others. I read that French kissing blossomed in the early twentieth century, but it was frowned upon...
One thing we have to remember about our ancestors reluctance to share spit is that many pretty rotten diseases were passed through saliva: mono, tuberculosis (even droplets sprayed from coughing), etc, so that kind of closeness was dangerous.
Hell, we still had Scarlett Fever, Measles, Mumps, Rheumatic fever etc in the sixties.
But, the other problem with kissing is that it roughs up the skin of your mouth and face (whiskers) and can give a person a rash and an opportunity for skin infections...plus, if a gal is doing 4- 5 fellows a night, she isn't gonna look her best for her last couple of clients.
I think that was the main reason we didn't partake in the old days. We were outcall and not able to do our makeup from scratch after every session and we were supposed to look elegant and sophisticated (I know that's not such a big deal these days as no one wears dresses anymore anyway)...
Many different kinds of kissing, and kissing is common in some cultures and largely absent in others. I read that French kissing blossomed in the early twentieth century, but it was frowned upon...
One thing we have to remember about our ancestors reluctance to share spit is that many pretty rotten diseases were passed through saliva: mono, tuberculosis (even droplets sprayed from coughing), etc, so that kind of closeness was dangerous.
Hell, we still had Scarlett Fever, Measles, Mumps, Rheumatic fever etc in the sixties.
But, the other problem with kissing is that it roughs up the skin of your mouth and face (whiskers) and can give a person a rash and an opportunity for skin infections...plus, if a gal is doing 4- 5 fellows a night, she isn't gonna look her best for her last couple of clients.
I think that was the main reason we didn't partake in the old days. We were outcall and not able to do our makeup from scratch after every session and we were supposed to look elegant and sophisticated (I know that's not such a big deal these days as no one wears dresses anymore anyway)...
Alright now you're just pushing it...
How is kissing a worse idea then engaging with prostitutes in any way shape or form?
Used to talk with an escort who secretly laughs at clients who are into the ultra safe approach. Even if you aren't kissing, doing cbj, not seeing providers who offer bbbj, and using dental dams for daty; you're still more exposed to risk than kissing a civilian who's had maybe a dozen partners in her life.
Just want to add that although I do agree with the escort who I talked with I also understand the want to lessen the risk as much as possible. Much the same way I'd wear armor while going downhill mountain biking.
I just wanted to add something that hasn't been mentioned thus far. Some people have stronger immune systems, and could probably engage in behaviours that those with weaker immune systems couldn't. I'd imagine that kissing would fall into that category...
It's a real compliment to be told that you're a great kisser... :eyebrows:
Perhaps this is on someone's New Year's resolutions list...
http://voices.yahoo.com/how-kiss-well-ten-very-good-tips-219292.html
Perhaps this is on someone's New Year's resolutions list...
http://voices.yahoo.com/how-kiss-well-ten-very-good-tips-219292.html
A French kiss is "usually considered intimate, romantic, erotic or sexual."I never understood why some guys want to kiss sp's, or any girl really
I mean there is nothing bad about it, but just don't understand the appeal, I can understand having a girl giving me a bj, but what is the thrill in slobbering in each other's mouth?? there are no sex pleasure organs in the mouth, I'm happy to get bj and have sex with the girl, kissing is a waste of time really
" A "kiss with the tongue" stimulates the partner's lips, tongue and mouth, which are sensitive to the touch. The practice is often considered a source of pleasure. The oral zone is one of the principal erogenous zones of the body, and the tongue is more erogenous than the lips."
http://wikipedia.sfstate.us/French_kiss
"An erogenous zone (from Greek ἔρως eros "love" and English -genous "producing" from Greek -γενής -genes "born") is an area of the human body that has heightened sensitivity, the stimulation of which may result in the production of sexual fantasies, sexual arousal and orgasm.
"People have erogenous zones all over their bodies, but which areas are more sensitive than others vary. Some may resent stimulation that others find arousing. The stimulation of these areas can produce gentle, mild or intense arousal."
http://wikipedia.sfstate.us/Erogenous_zone
Health benefits
Affection in general has stress-reducing effects. Kissing in particular has been studied in a controlled experiment and it was found that increasing the frequency of kissing in marital and cohabiting relationships results in a reduction of perceived stress, an increase in relationship satisfaction, and a lowering of cholesterol levels.[48]
Kissing can also cause the adrenal glands to release epinephrine and norepinephrine (adrenaline and noradrenaline) into the blood, thereby causing an adrenaline rush, which has a beneficial impact on the cardiovascular system because the heart pumps faster. In an experiment by Dr. Alexander DeWees, a passionate kiss generally burns up to 2–3 calories per minute.[49]
Disease transmission
Kissing on the lips can result in the transmission of some diseases, including infectious mononucleosis and herpes simplex when the infectious viruses are present in saliva. Research indicates that contraction of HIV via kissing is extremely unlikely, although a woman has been infected with HIV by kissing (in 1997). Both the woman and infected man had gum disease, so transmission was through the man's blood, not through saliva.[50]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss#Health_benefits
I find it hilarious that you defend kissing to someone who's against it, yet you shy away from DATY... :doh:
Daty..kissing, it's just snot (oops, mucous) just different ends of the body. Don't kid yourself about kissing; snot is there lol
re: staying safe and keeping the makeup in place: I have met women who didn't care about staying safe or what they looked like, but, they were usually the cracked up type.
One gal who got booted from the agency was allowing uncovered greek and fs, and clients complained about the stench. Yeah, it was disgusting, but I wondered what put her into that 'space' of not caring.
Now, this is digressing from the OPs intent, but when I am with an escort I expect 'clean' and 'careful',no kissing but a lot of lips brushing cheek and that sensual tease that can be more erotic than the actual engagement... but I am a woman...most of us like it slow and teasing.
re: staying safe and keeping the makeup in place: I have met women who didn't care about staying safe or what they looked like, but, they were usually the cracked up type.
One gal who got booted from the agency was allowing uncovered greek and fs, and clients complained about the stench. Yeah, it was disgusting, but I wondered what put her into that 'space' of not caring.
Now, this is digressing from the OPs intent, but when I am with an escort I expect 'clean' and 'careful',no kissing but a lot of lips brushing cheek and that sensual tease that can be more erotic than the actual engagement... but I am a woman...most of us like it slow and teasing.
I've had a couple of women (non SPs) tell me that men who are really good kissers usually have great oral skills in other areas.
I was always happy to verify their theory.
I was always happy to verify their theory.
DATY?...Ewww, yuk. Yukity yuk....
Ewww.
Yuk.
Shall i continue?
I hope that is clear now. If not i can elaborate further.
Now i am going to do something more enjoyable, namely suck on a bitter lemon & tape freshly cut onions to my eyebrows.
Then at least i'll have something worth looking at.
People who are good at something usually really enjoy and/or are really enthusiastic about it. I found things like kissing and oral can be made significantly better by enthusiasm, it's pretty easy to tell when someone just tosses it on autopilot.
And oh my god could use some enthusiasm today after having to reschedule my plans. Lol I can't sit still!
I can't agree with this...enthusiasm is often over-rated, as it, in no way, relates to skill, talent, diligent study, etc... Lack of skill, combined with enthusiasm, is a complete turn-off! :nod:
Fair enough. I was also thinking under the assumption that most who are enthusiastic/enjoy something tend to work at it to be better. Ie I loved pitching and snowboarding; so I worked, practiced and researched how to be better and enjoy it to the fullest.
And I agree energy without direction can be a train wreck.
