Are we F***ing cheating Hippocrates?

[miss meiko]

There are hundreds of self-help books sold about how to have a great relationships. The reality is...nobody knows what the secrets are. You just have to learn, learn and learn...and there is no guarantee for everything. Period.

Yes, sometime you can tell whether you should be with that person and the relationship will work out. But most of the times, we can not tell.

Is honesty the best policy to have a great relationship? The answer is yes and no. Forgiveness and tolerance are more important to have in term of having a great relationships...and don't forget; we don't always grow together either. Some people just grow apart and nothing, absolutely nothing you can do about it.

That's what I think....

 

[athaire]

There are hundreds of self-help books sold about how to have a great relationships. The reality is...nobody knows what the secrets are. You just have to learn, learn and learn...and there is no guarantee for everything. Period.

Yes, sometime you can tell whether you should be with that person and the relationship will work out. But most of the times, we can not tell.

Is honesty the best policy to have a great relationship? The answer is yes and no. Forgiveness and tolerance are more important to have in term of having a great relationships...and don't forget; we don't always grow together either. Some people just grow apart and nothing, absolutely nothing you can do about it.

That's what I think....

Great post....

 

[maxx50]

Thanks again for your comments ..

Sorry about the miss use of the word Hippocrates. I was dumb . spell check does not do the thinking too..
As for the questions ..thanks to everyone ..especially those i know. This is just a thought on possible future events .. nothings is moving very quickly on this .. and it may not even be a possibility..
The things is that i am more comfortable with girls that are open about there sexuality .. and comfortable with there bodies .. and are not afraid to show it . and talk about .. .. not necessarily in a loud . crude manner .. but a matter of fact way. And when each person is well aware that .. sure the guy is here for sex .. and there is no games . That does not mean that ever time i see a girl or take them out .. i expect us to end up in bed .. Even the ladies I see know that is is not all ways the case. . some times they almost have to pull me thee by the nose ring . Lol
The honesty thing is a big problem for me.. in that i would like to be comletly open with everyone i know .. but there is this self presivation . asspect that stops me .. I realy don't want to be judge .. riticualed .. critisized.. rejected .. or have to explain myself .. I am doing what i am comfotable with .. for reasons which seemed to be sound at the time ..and hopefully i am not hurting anyone .. or taking advantage of some one .. I would rather knowingly be used then to use some one else.
to be continued

 

[sdw]

I think you're wrong.

I imagine you are unhappy, or at best, resigned about this situation. I don't think it is inevitable that a good relationship requires lying to your partner. That's bullshit and you know it too.

Let's see, I never lie again:
Vacuum where ever I am - check
Dish/utensil removal while I am still using them - check
Sleeping in other bedroom - check
Using poison kit to check food - check

Now, Let's see, I continue lying:
We Vacuum on Saturday Mornings - check
I carry dish to dishwasher - check
I continue to wake up and steal back the comforter - check
We cook dinner together to Faith's music - check

I'm kinda attached to my current lifestyle

 

[ms.belair]

Now, Let's see, I continue lying:
We Vacuum on Saturday Mornings - check
I carry dish to dishwasher - check
I continue to wake up and steal back the comforter - check
We cook dinner together to Faith's music - check

I'm kinda attached to my current lifestyle

Okay, then she's resigned to living with a liar. Better?
Obviously I'm single for a reason, and my animals don't know how to lie!

 

[The Lizard King]

Obviously I'm single for a reason, and my animals don't know how to lie!

Hey now....don't think they don't talk among themselves!

 

[sdw]

Okay, then she's resigned to living with a liar. Better?
Obviously I'm single for a reason, and my animals don't know how to lie!

No she's just resigned to knowing if she has to buy my clothing, I obviously shouldn't be consulted on her clothing.

If I had my way she would always be wearing jeans. When I followed her and struck up a conversation, it was because the rear view was alluring. The pants with the puffy legs don't encourage a second look.

 

[The Lizard King]

If I had my way she would always be wearing jeans. When I followed her and struck up a conversation, it was because the rear view was alluring. The pants with the puffy legs don't encourage a second look.

So your relationship is at the point where she figures you're hooked and she doesn't have to work as hard and can now wear "fat pants"? Oh brother...

 

[sdw]

So your relationship is at the point where she figures you're hooked and she doesn't have to work as hard and can now wear "fat pants"? Oh brother...

Not at all. I think long slim legs going up to a nicely shaped ass is sexy. She thinks that baggy harem pants are sexy. I know better than to tell her what I think of the harem pants and anything that is cut like that. I've been working on getting her to wear jeans and mid thigh hem length skirts and dresses.

It's a relatively new relationship so we've got a few years before we become jaded.

 

[littlejimbigher]

Is there one man on this earth that doesn't know the right answer to "does this make me look fat" is "sorry dear I've just got to make a quick trip to the store"?
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WRONG!
Correct answer is "That makes you look so sexy I want to rip it off and make love to you".
Always worked for me.

 

[kalel]

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Is there one man on this earth that doesn't know the right answer to "does this make me look fat" is "sorry dear I've just got to make a quick trip to the store"?

i think the right answer to "does this dress make me look fat?" is

"it's not the dress that makes you look fat, it's the fat that makes you look fat"

and if you can't handle that then you've just justified the fact that guys need to lie.

 

[chilli]

The fact is everyone lies, just for different reasons.

Women like to deny they lie, but they do - certainly as much as guys do.
Women like to pretend that they are the nicer sex, their not - there are bad people everywhere - men and women.

There's 2 factors about lieing....

It's not whether you lie or not, it's what you lie about, and more importantly it's your motivation for lieing.

Is it to avoid hurting the other person's feelings? Well in a lot of cases that's justifiable. ie: something that happened in the past.

Is it to hide your poor or bad behavior?

At the end of the day the person who lies because of poor or bad behavior is always going to say that they didn't want to hurt the other person's feelings.

Kind of interesting huh?

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

...she was in a relationship .. and she wast supporting him by being a part time st riper .. and massage person .. nothing sexual..

.. and is quite happy in her anger .. to ward guys that use and cheat on her.

I have told her about my failed relationship . and just generally what has happened in the last few years .. but not about seeing escorts . for sex and companion ship.

Here is one question .. Should i be open with her and just tell her that i have my fav. girl that i have seen for sex and fun . and that i may still see them .... Should i even tell a girl friend that I have seen escorts.. even though i know they would feel I was lying about some thing. and that in it's self would make them miss trust me ...

I know it was a problem with my ex girl friend . and we had meet when she was escorting .

No, of course not. (why are you even asking such a question?)



You can always tell her... but you can never un-tell her.

That dictates your course of action (or in this case, non-action)


By the way, she may be a great lay or whatever, but this person is clearly so trauma-filled that she can barely give enough due attention to herself let alone do justice to a decent guy.

What you should inspire in her is a plan to see a therapist and undo much of what has been heaped during her adult life onto that which dictated her course during childhood.

 

[maxx50]

SS those were my thoughts

Yes I thought I would suggest . some therapy .. or a retreat.. Just as some one had suggested to me and i know it help me a lot ..
I think that may be more important . them me trying to start up a relation ship with her. She has been hurt a lot .. and is inter moil..So I will try to set aside my desires and . and just help if i can .. and if she wants it.

 

[SilkyJohnson]

Is there one man on this earth that doesn't know the right answer to "does this make me look fat" is "sorry dear I've just got to make a quick trip to the store"?


Answer:No its not the dress that makes u look fat, its the fat that makes u look fat!

 

[kalel]

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Is there one man on this earth that doesn't know the right answer to "does this make me look fat" is "sorry dear I've just got to make a quick trip to the store"?


Answer:No its not the dress that makes u look fat, its the fat that makes u look fat!

post #32 says the exact same thing.

 

[SilkyJohnson]

yea its from married with children. Al Bundy's got the best comebacks

 

[sarahpassion]

No need to tell your past but....

I don't think you need to tell her about your past, as long as you have practiced safe and know that you are clean!

If you really like this girl and you want to try and be serious with her then I would think you would stop seeing escorts. Isn't the warm can't get enough of her, couldn't imagine anybody else feeling there? If it isn't I would just say move on well the getting is good. If that feeling is there and you still feel this pull toward you reg sp then maybe you should look into that deeper.

I also don't think that just because Sp's see married men that they can't ask someone to be faithful to them. Married men stray for many reasons, but sex is sex. If your seeing the Sp for more than just the sex while being commited to her than there is emotional cheating on top of just the physical which can be way hurtful.

If I were married and My husband wanted to look elsewhere for some hanky-panky I would hope he would sneak away for an hour of the pure physical with a clean sp, rather than have an affair where he could end up falling for someone else.