America's Gun Violence Problem Explained in 18 Charts

marsvolta

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the gun lobby and their supporters are cowards. they need to step up and state the obvious... that the largest death rate from guns in the world and mass shootings that target children is simply a cost of doing business. "from my cold dead hands" no matter what the consequences.
 

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according to wikipedia Denis Lortie is now married. question to the women out there? NA never mind. I know the answer.
 

poorboyv6

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the gun lobby and their supporters are cowards. they need to step up and state the obvious... that the largest death rate from guns in the world and mass shootings that target children is simply a cost of doing business. "from my cold dead hands" no matter what the consequences.
There are no more cowards in the gun lobby than in the regular cross section of the population.

Veterans, actors, opthamologists, pharmacists, lawyers, Martin Luther King award winners and film makers.

Bet you didn't know Stephen Spielberg is a gun advocate as well as James Earl Jones.

Seems like a fairly well educated group as well.

https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/most-influential-pro-gun-rights/2015/07/13/id/654745/

The firearms industry is an 8 billion dollar a year business with a total economic impact of 55 billion dollars in the U.S. It' ain't going anywhere whether you like it or not.

Quebec currently has their own little rebellion going on with their gun registry. The First Nations are mad they were not consulted and want exemptions. Some have publicly stated they will not comply. Ironically, they are a group with one of the highest homicide rates. They're going to have a high level of non compliance from the Quebec population, just like the defunct Federal Long Gun Registry.
 
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uncleg

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Gun Control is Being Able to hit your target.....that should piss a few people off.

Is there a reasonable chance of change in America in regards to guns....yes, I think there is. If these kids that I have/we have been seeing on TV follow through on protests and marches and whatever actions they come up with, and if their parents continue to support them, there will be positive change. Within the next couple of years many of these kids will be voting and many of the politicians in office today will still be looking to stay in office. These kids won't forget who supported them, and who kowtowed to the NRA. They might not have the money to influence an election, but they will have the votes and in the end that is what will count. Politicians can count too.
 

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Denis Lortie was the shooter who killed three persons and injured several more.
They needed Kevin Vickers.

After reflection, the guy who ended it was pretty ballsy.
 

westwoody

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Within the next couple of years many of these kids will be voting
There you go, it will be a generational change.

Voters will be better informed and represent more of the population.
Trump's legacy may be a more engaged electorate.
Drain the swamp LOL
 

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I read recently (source brookings.edu) that younger voters tend to vote Democrat - Obama (60%) and H. Clinton (57%) captured a much larger share of the millennial vote than their Republican opponents (37%). Latin (15% gun ownership and fastest growing population in the US) and black voters (24% own guns) also tend to vote Democrat. Gun ownership skews heavily Republican (44%) as compared to Democrat (20%) and especially towards white Republican voters.

It also skews heavily rural (46%) compared to suburban (28%) or urban (19%). The US population is trending increasingly urban. Only 30% of USers own guns (all gun ownership stats are from Pew Research Center) and gun ownership is on the decline (51% of USers owned guns in 1978, source Washington Post).

The increase in gun sales and ammo in the US during the Obama years was driven more by existing gun owners buying more guns than first time gun owners. If demographics and voting trends hold, gun ownership and the NRA will become less and less relevant and even Republicans will have to accept gun control measures to have a chance at power.
 

CanineCowboy

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There are no more cowards in the gun lobby than in the regular cross section of the population.

Veterans, actors, opthamologists, pharmacists, lawyers, Martin Luther King award winners and film makers.

Bet you didn't know Stephen Spielberg is a gun advocate as well as James Earl Jones.

Seems like a fairly well educated group as well.

https://www.newsmax.com/thewire/most-influential-pro-gun-rights/2015/07/13/id/654745/

The firearms industry is an 8 billion dollar a year business with a total economic impact of 55 billion dollars in the U.S. It' ain't going anywhere whether you like it or not.

Quebec currently has their own little rebellion going on with their gun registry. The First Nations are mad they were not consulted and want exemptions. Some have publicly stated they will not comply. Ironically, they are a group with one of the highest homicide rates. They're going to have a high level of non compliance from the Quebec population, just like the defunct Federal Long Gun Registry.
I would assume after yesterday's $500,000 donation, Spielberg would call himself a gun control advocate, as opposed to a gun advocate.
 

westwoody

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I googled Spielberg and guns but there was little to support him being "pro" in the sense of the NRA implied.
He does skeet. He sometimes saves guns used in his movies as souvenirs, not for shooting.

There was a claim by an NRA vice president that Spielberg has a large collection of assault rifles. The claim was not supported by any source or evidence
I could not find anything that would confirm him as a "pro gun advocate".

Nothing.

If there is any independently verifiable evidence that Spielberg is a gun advocate, please provide it.
 
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uncleg

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I would assume after yesterday's $500,000 donation, Spielberg would call himself a gun control advocate, as opposed to a gun advocate.
Heard Clooney kicked in $500K...nothing about Spielberg ?????
 

westwoody

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Great to see Marco Rubio being called out for the slimy piece of shit that he is.
He had no answer for a seventeen year old survivor of the Florida shooting.
So many in Congress being called out for selling themselves to the highest corporate bidders.

Maybe there is hope for sanity. The gun nuts are a minority and shrinking.
 

poorboyv6

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Great to see Marco Rubio being called out for the slimy piece of shit that he is.
He had no answer for a seventeen year old survivor of the Florida shooting.
So many in Congress being called out for selling themselves to the highest corporate bidders.

Maybe there is hope for sanity. The gun nuts are a minority and shrinking.
Where's your reference. That's contrary to this article.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/poli...capacity-magazines/ar-BBJrlYa?ocid=spartanntp

Most of what he's considering will be ineffective. You should look up the demographics of gun owners. Half of them earn over $50K, and of that half, 25% earn over $100K. They have the influence.

The genie is out of the bottle.
 
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