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I think he was there for 2 hours tho ...225 per hour. or did I miss seeing the details??$450 for PSE. I don't think so, there are good PSE providers here for $250!
for 1 hour that would be a ridiculous price to pay!!!!
Dreamer is right!! Might think of paying 450 for an all-niter, maybe!! LOLNope. I asked her about her rates. $450 for PSE, 1 hour.
rather see 2 different ladies instead. ... sorry but can't see what would be so special ......
Did you not hear they are both back, Zoe is advertising on EC and there was a thread saying Foxy is still around just not advertising, you can still contact her by her old email
Puzzled!! What makes a session PSE as opposed to GFE?Really? Like who? Care to list a few of the PSE providers in town. Only one I can think of is Oshean at the moment unless Zoe or Foxy come back. Who else is there?
Ocean is often referred to as offering pse, but what goes on in the session with her that is different from sessions with other ladies that offer great sessions? Is it the aggressiveness she shows, or the intense fake moaning? Many have expressed that they enjoyed experiencing a session with Ocean as a one-time experrience, but don't care to repeat. I admit that I have seen her a few times over her evolution her times as attendant at mp places such as Science and 222, but like some movies you never bother going to see again, been there, done that!!!
Angelina, who visits a lot, is another one that advertises as PSE. Now, she is super gorgeous!! and who wouldn't want to experience at least once in their life pleasuring such a magnificent body ! But again, what makes a session with her any more special than it is with many of the other ladies?
With Ocean it must be her aggression, with Angelina it must be her physical attributes - looks and great body. They both have been in porn star movies but does that make their sessions pse and warrant high fees? That is where I am puzzled ... high fees for what return??? What constitutes a pse experience?
That's a really good question sixpack. What does constitute a PSE?
Is it the BBBj, is it anal? Is it the aggressiveness. I've wondered that myself.
I haven't watched many porn's lately but have noticed in the one's I have watched they are using condom's for BJ's. There isn't much for kissing either.
So is a PSE a BBBj, anal, massive moaning, and her taking full control? Because I know the last porn I watched everything was covered.
You can get a GFE that offer's the same wild time and dirty talk and aggressiveness as well, kissing included.
Is it the BBBj, is it anal? Is it the aggressiveness. I've wondered that myself.
I haven't watched many porn's lately but have noticed in the one's I have watched they are using condom's for BJ's. There isn't much for kissing either.
So is a PSE a BBBj, anal, massive moaning, and her taking full control? Because I know the last porn I watched everything was covered.
You can get a GFE that offer's the same wild time and dirty talk and aggressiveness as well, kissing included.
Shybaby a GFE offer's mutiple position's as well as DATY. So the question here is not what one offer's but what constitutes it?
Are you trying to say that a PSE doesn't offer DATY or MSOG? BBBJ in a GFE from a SP is their choice. Not all offer it. But I wouldn't typically consider that a PSE if you receive one.
If what your trying to say about PSE is that you don't get the above I mentioned then they aren't true PSE's.
I think most men would opt for a GFE, the cuddling, carressing, etc. At what is a lower price.
Are you trying to say that a PSE doesn't offer DATY or MSOG? BBBJ in a GFE from a SP is their choice. Not all offer it. But I wouldn't typically consider that a PSE if you receive one.
If what your trying to say about PSE is that you don't get the above I mentioned then they aren't true PSE's.
I think most men would opt for a GFE, the cuddling, carressing, etc. At what is a lower price.
Come on I didn't jump on you.How come everytime I reply about something you have to jump on me right away and make me seem like i'm writing something negative. I didn't say pse doesn't consitute as msog mulitple shots etc. my gfe and pse sessions are really no different than eachother i think the only think that differs my gfe from my pse is greek. but I wasn't speaking for myself I was trying to figure out what really the 'defitnition of gfe and pse and the difference between them would be. all girls are differnt with what they charge, what the offer as well as what they provide with they're gfe and pse sessions. that why i said it's best to call, txt or email to be sure . to clear things up about the rate issue the 250 - 300 is what i quoted that most sp's i know as well as myself charge for PSE. gfe is usually anywhere from 150 to 250 depending on the girl. some girls charge less , some girls charge more to each there own. that is what i was saying.
I asked a simple question. It's at time's very hard to read what it is your saying. I questioned you.
If you consider that being jumped on I guess you've never had me really jump on you.
My question which I asked and you responded to was at the same time. Holy woman, you a tad bit paranoid. I've been around for along time and I by no means was jumping on you.
This is when typing you don't hear my tone of voice nor the look on my face. Many people here know I have a good sense of humour and can take what's dished out to me.
P.S I don't jump on you for everything. I left you alone in the other thread. I don't speak my mind unless I feel there's a need.
I was just curious like sixpack what does constitute a PSE.....
Thanks for modifyng your original post...Pse can mean very different things. umm a little complecated to explain but for example most girls g.f.e included alot of kissing , caressing , daty ( if the guy is into that), msog sometimes multiple positions etc. wereas cof, greek usually , um somegirls do bbbj (but i guess they do that in g.f.e sessions too.) bottom line pse is all of the above and with some very openminded women everything and beyond . I suggest if your not the shy type ask the sp on the phone what is included in her pse service and if your the shy type email or txt. I f a girl does offer gfe and pse and doesn't know what it is or tells you yeah yeah yeah and the story changes at the door then i suggest leave or call somebody else. and yes iam speaking from my own personal experience. i'm little wiser and learned my lesson about such things. i just had to put that in there before anybody jumps on me. which i can't blame from my mistakes before. but yeah that is how i can explain that gfe and pse to you.
i'm not sure what is you should charge i know most girls as well as my self charge 250-300 i noticed Ladyluck just posted she might know alot more than me so i don't know is that what we should be charging??
Wowser's!
I have to give you very much credit for coming forth like that.
But these perbite's spend hard earned money not to be taken. Glad you admitted your past mistake's. Your young they will happen from time to time.
But just keep in mind.. lie's alway's get figured out one way or another.
It take's more energy to remember a lie them telling the truth. Kudo's to you.
P.S kudo's is basically a high five
I have to give you very much credit for coming forth like that.
But these perbite's spend hard earned money not to be taken. Glad you admitted your past mistake's. Your young they will happen from time to time.
But just keep in mind.. lie's alway's get figured out one way or another.
It take's more energy to remember a lie them telling the truth. Kudo's to you.
P.S kudo's is basically a high five
since everyone knows who shybaby is and what not i think that i do owe everbody here an apoligy as well as i got some explaining to do. i'm not asking anybody to have sypathethy for me or anything all i ask is to hear me out and give me the benenifit of the doubt.
i admit that yes in the past i was bait and switch , yes i wrote fake reviews to boost my ( or what i thought would boost my biz) etc. but we all knew that on here.
when i started out indie a year ago i was very niave as well as green to the indie scene. I have worked with an agency for years and well lets just say indie's and agenicies have very differnt work ethnics. indies having the better ones.
These girls i know ( i don't know if I should mention names 0 took me under there wings and well i thought showed my the ropes. i mean they told me to download pics because that's what they did. as wel,if there were girls bugging me write things about them cause tha's what they did. and i'm not blaming them i know i have a brain of my own. but i did get caught up in it and well when i started making good money on my own it kind of got to my head and i got cocky with it. i call it golden pussy syndrome.
i thought by following these girls leads that i wasn't doing any wrong. bait and switching and everything else.
Show us your boobs!sorry ran out of room................... as i was saying then i found out about review boards and well i guess i seen what a reputation these girls had as well as myself . so yeah i acted like a imature bitch wrote reviews tried to make myself look bettter which it backfired. long story short.
i felt the sting of what a bad reptutation can do. i didn't like it and it made me fell like shit.
so instead of whinning about it . i grew the fuck up change my attitude about it.
I fell out with those girls . i stoped using fake pics . i 'm sure if you look me up you'll be pleasantly surprised my pics are actually me. posted my true wieght what services i provide etc. and you know what it took awhile but things got better. i get just as many calls from guys who like my look as the really skinny girls who get calls from guys who like they're look. it made feel more better to be honest and have happy guys at my door and i was more encouraged to work which made me take more pride in it as well as be more respectful and pleasant to my clients. my biz has taken a way better turn. I know there is nothing i can do to change how i was before. all i can do is own up to it, prove myself and apoligise to any one who felt ripped off or i pissed off. for what it worth i am very sorry. i think that is why i tried with angel because i wanted to help her but she just fucked me over. but what can i do. angel is becoming what i used to be. mabye she has to learn the hard way like me. in a way i'm glad i learned the hard way . it humbled me and made me realize what i was doing was wrong and made me better it. I know it will take me along time to reverse a bad rap. i know it won't be 100 % reversed but all i ask for is a second chance. and for you guys to hear me out. you can respond however you want. negative or postive i don't blame you guys. but i don't bait and switch.. i'm more mature and i dummied up and i learned my lesson about reviews. so well i think i said it all . to whoever i'm sorry and to the people who have been sticking up for me as well as given me a second chance thanks.
About 10 post on this thread about nothing, slow days ladies?? I hate when sp's discuss there difference's on another sp's thread.
Agreed. Thread closed. Will contact OP to see if he wants his thread cleaned up and unlocked.Wow. What a train wreck of a thread.
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