2026 USA Political Thread

sexpanther69

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Pedo trump slowly figuring out he's in wya over his head

Israels recent attack on the Pars gas field may be the straw that broken the camels back

Israel saying the US had knowledge and turmp now disputimg....tryna Throw Israel under the bus but let's be honest, there's no way Israel wuda attacked that gas field without trumps permission.... Trump under estimating the lengths Iran would go to shows how unprepared they were... And now dipsh it Pete's askin for $200billion for this war.... Is this what maga wanted when the voted for America first?

So is he now admitting that this IS Israels war?

MAGA been awfully quiet lately, buyers remorse? Sure sounds like Joe Rogan sure does have some
 
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se7landrover97

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First Russia,, and now Iran,, US is totally upside down when it comes to sound policy and judgement.

The U.S. may soon remove sanctions from Iranian oil that is stranded on tankers to help lift global supplies and reduce prices, U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said on Thursday.

“In the coming days, we may unsanction the Iranian oil that’s on the water. It’s about 140 million barrels,” Bessent told Fox Business Network’s “Mornings with Maria” program.

“So, depending on how you count it, that’s 10 days to two weeks of supply,” he added.

I am at a loss now. Really. Trump spent billions of dollars to bombed Iran so he can unsanction Iran’s oil? Or is this his way of playing the market?
 

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Bro is writing dialogue like it's an SNL skit 🤦‍♂️
Looking at her watch, 'this guy is a total fuck-wad, get me the fuck out of here before I nuke Hawaii again.'
 

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Extremely long read here referred to me by a chemical engineer buddy of mine in Alberta. IMO worth the time to read and I figure once you get this, you really get it.


OIL PRICES: THE GREATEST CON JOB IN FINANCIAL HISTORY

Every headline this week says oil hit $108 a barrel. They say it like a doctor telling you your cholesterol is a bit high. Might want to cut back on the cheese, mate.

Except $108 isn't the real price. It's the cheapest number they could find on the board and they're waving it around like everything's fine.

It's like your house is on fire and the real estate agent is telling buyers about the lovely water pressure.

Brent and WTI are the European and American oil benchmarks. They trade in London and New York. Very civilised. Very much not where the actual crisis is happening.

The crisis is in Asia. Where the oil actually goes.

Dubai crude hit $153.25 a barrel this week. That's not a record for the year. That's the highest price ever recorded for crude oil on any benchmark in the history of the petroleum industry. Higher than 2008. The year the global economy ate itself.

Oman crude hit $152.58. Also a record.

And here's a stat that tells you exactly how broken the market is.

Every oil benchmark has two prices. The futures price is what traders in suits agree to pay for oil on paper next month. That's your headline number. The spot price is what it actually costs to get real physical oil onto a real physical ship right now today. In a normal market those two prices sit right on top of each other. In February the gap on Dubai crude was 90 cents. A rounding error.

That gap is now $56 a barrel.


Think of it like concert tickets. The face value says $100. That's your Brent price. The number on the news. But the venue is on fire, half the shows have been cancelled, and the only way in is through a scalper who wants $250. That extra $150 tells you far more about reality than the number printed on the ticket.

90 cents to $56 in three weeks means the physical oil market is in full blown panic. The headline price hasn't caught up because traders in London are still pricing off old stockpiles. Oil that left the Gulf weeks ago and is already safe in Western storage.

Asia doesn't have that luxury. Asia is buying oil from a war zone. And the price has gone vertical.

JPMorgan, not exactly doomsday preppers in tinfoil hats, called the calm in Brent and WTI "an illusion." They said once Western stockpiles burn through, Brent snaps up $50 to meet the Middle Eastern benchmarks. That puts $108 at $160. Minimum. Citi is forecasting $130 Brent as an average. Add the Asian premium and you're at $190.

One missile away from $200 oil.

And guess what just happened.

Israel hit Iran's South Pars gas field. World's largest natural gas reserve. On fire. Iran retaliated within hours. Ballistic missile through Qatar's air defences. Hit Ras Laffan. World's largest LNG facility. 20% of global supply. Also on fire.

Iran then published a fucking shopping list of what's next. Saudi refineries. UAE gas fields. Qatari petrochemical plants. Named them. Told them to evacuate. Then started launching. Saudi Arabia shot down four missiles over Riyadh. The UAE is engaging incoming fire right now. ExxonMobil, Aramco, ADNOC, all evacuating staff.

Now here's the bit the spin doctors really don't want you thinking about.

Everyone's focused on the Strait of Hormuz. Fair enough. It's basically shut. Only 90 ships through in three weeks. That used to be a few days of traffic.

But a shipping lane is a shipping lane. Sign a ceasefire. Send in minesweepers. Within weeks you've got tankers moving.

You know what you can't fix in weeks? A refinery with a ballistic missile hole in it.

These facilities took a decade to plan and five years to build. Cryogenic systems. Compression units. Heat exchangers the size of apartment buildings. A missile goes through one and you're looking at 12 to 18 months minimum. Structural fire damage? Years. Plural.

So pretty soon it won't matter if the Strait reopens because there won't be any fucking refineries left to refine the oil. And even if there were, there aren't enough plumbers on planet Earth to put them back together again.

You can reopen a door. You can't reopen a building that's been turned into a crater.

And who do we have to thank for this masterpiece of strategic genius?

A 79 year old man who dodged the draft five times, went bankrupt running casinos, and thinks windmills cause cancer.

This bloke looked at Iran, a country that spent 45 years building an asymmetric warfare doctrine specifically designed to turn the Persian Gulf into an uninsurable hellscape the moment anyone touched them, and thought yeah nah, we'll just bomb them. They'll probably throw roses.

They didn't throw roses. They did exactly what every defence analyst and every bloke at the pub with a basic grasp of geography said they'd do. They hit the oil. Everyone's oil.

Iran has the world by the balls. Not America. Not Israel. Iran.

And this isn't some desperate improvisation. This is 45 years of meticulous, obsessive planning being executed exactly as designed. The missiles. The drones. The fast attack boats. The mine warfare. The proxy networks. Every piece placed over four decades for one single purpose: making any attack on Iran so catastrophically expensive that no rational actor would ever attempt it.

They didn't just plan for this day. They fantasised about it. They war gamed it. They built their entire military identity around it. The Strait of Hormuz is their nuclear option without the nuclear. And they've had 45 years to figure out exactly how to shut it down and keep it shut.

Then some spray tanned game show host gave them the excuse to pull the trigger.

Iran doesn't need to win. They just need to keep squeezing. Every day the war continues, oil goes up. Every refinery that burns, the recovery timeline extends by years. Every missile that lands, another insurer pulls coverage, another shipping company refuses to sail, another refinery cuts production because it can't source crude.

They are squeezing Donald Trump's nuts like they have never been squeezed before. And the beautiful, horrible irony is that every bomb America drops makes the squeeze tighter. You hit their gas field? They hit Qatar's. You take out their leadership? They publish a target list and start ticking boxes. You send another carrier group? Insurance premiums go up and the tankers sit in port.

Every punch drives the price higher. Iran has known this for 45 years. This is the moment they've been waiting for. And Donald Trump walked right into it like a drunk stumbling into a cage fight thinking it was a buffet.

There is no military solution. You cannot aircraft carrier your way out of $200 oil. You cannot drone strike the laws of supply and demand.

Trump needs to pick up his bat and ball and get the fuck off the Arabian oil fields. No conditions. No victory lap. Just stop. Because every day this continues another refinery burns and another $10 gets added to the price of everything you buy, eat, drive, and heat your home with.

If he doesn't, he exits the presidency as the man who tanked the global economy and handed Iran the greatest strategic victory in its modern history. He will leave office like a flaming ball of African dung beetle shit rolling downhill, getting bigger and more catastrophic with every rotation, and history will remember him not as a strongman but as the single dumbest strategic decision maker to ever hold the launch codes.

They're showing you $108 because $153 would cause a panic. And honestly? A panic might be exactly what's needed. Because the only thing stopping this lunatic from turning a regional war into a global depression is American voters looking at the price on the bowser and finally saying enough.

$200 oil doesn't care about your politics. Doesn't care who you voted for. Doesn't care about red hats or freedom or any of that culture war horseshit. It hits every man, woman, and child on the planet right in the hip pocket. The truckie. The single mum. The pensioner. Everyone.

Right now the only thing standing between the global economy and total meltdown is whether a 79 year old man with the emotional regulation of a toddler in a Kmart can swallow his pride long enough to stop a war he should never have started.

Destination fucked doesn't begin to cover it.!!
 

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I did the Coles Notes for you.

masterpoonhunter, post

And who do we have to thank for this masterpiece of strategic genius?

A 79 year old man who dodged the draft five times, went bankrupt running casinos, and thinks windmills cause cancer.

This bloke looked at Iran, thought yeah nah, we'll just bomb them. They'll probably throw roses.

Then some spray tanned game show host gave them the excuse to pull the trigger.

They are squeezing Donald Trump's nuts like they have never been squeezed before.

And Donald Trump walked right into it like a drunk stumbling into a cage fight thinking it was a buffet.

Trump needs to pick up his bat and ball and get the fuck off the Arabian oil fields.

He will leave office like a flaming ball of African dung beetle shit rolling downhill, getting bigger and more catastrophic with every rotation, and history will remember him not as a strongman but as the single dumbest strategic decision maker to ever hold the launch codes.

Right now the only thing standing between the global economy and total meltdown is whether a 79 year old man with the emotional regulation of a toddler in a Kmart can swallow his pride long enough to stop a war he should never have started.


Destination fucked doesn't begin to cover it.!!
 

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Everything has already been done.
US deposed Mossadegh and installed the Shah.
Now they kill Khameini and install the Shah’s son.
That didn't work out so well the first time, and 2nd time?? To be seen, but I doubt it. Why would you putting the fucking son back in power (what his resume beside being born))

What the dumb fuck Americans should of done in the 50s was to help Iran build schools, create a economy that could support itself. No they wanted cheap oil owned by American and Western Banks (CIBC was one of them). What they did was supress the population and religious nuts came to power. With the Quran saying "kill all the infidels".....
 

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I don't think she got canned for the ad thing.. Reports of numerous people in the admin getting fed up with a her BS and lying ways..... I wouldn't be surprised if turmp did know abut the money and jsut did his usual play stupid and throw the person under the bus

Regardless, good riddance, but who wants a BJ from a old used baseball glove
Noem didn't watch the Apprentice. Everytime someone threw someone under the Bus, Donald fired them....
 
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Extremely long read here referred to me by a chemical engineer buddy of mine in Alberta. IMO worth the time to read and I figure once you get this, you really get it.


OIL PRICES: THE GREATEST CON JOB IN FINANCIAL HISTORY

Every headline this week says oil hit $108 a barrel. They say it like a doctor telling you your cholesterol is a bit high. Might want to cut back on the cheese, mate.

Except $108 isn't the real price. It's the cheapest number they could find on the board and they're waving it around like everything's fine.

It's like your house is on fire and the real estate agent is telling buyers about the lovely water pressure.

Brent and WTI are the European and American oil benchmarks. They trade in London and New York. Very civilised. Very much not where the actual crisis is happening.

The crisis is in Asia. Where the oil actually goes.

Dubai crude hit $153.25 a barrel this week. That's not a record for the year. That's the highest price ever recorded for crude oil on any benchmark in the history of the petroleum industry. Higher than 2008. The year the global economy ate itself.

Oman crude hit $152.58. Also a record.

And here's a stat that tells you exactly how broken the market is.

Every oil benchmark has two prices. The futures price is what traders in suits agree to pay for oil on paper next month. That's your headline number. The spot price is what it actually costs to get real physical oil onto a real physical ship right now today. In a normal market those two prices sit right on top of each other. In February the gap on Dubai crude was 90 cents. A rounding error.

That gap is now $56 a barrel.


Think of it like concert tickets. The face value says $100. That's your Brent price. The number on the news. But the venue is on fire, half the shows have been cancelled, and the only way in is through a scalper who wants $250. That extra $150 tells you far more about reality than the number printed on the ticket.

90 cents to $56 in three weeks means the physical oil market is in full blown panic. The headline price hasn't caught up because traders in London are still pricing off old stockpiles. Oil that left the Gulf weeks ago and is already safe in Western storage.

Asia doesn't have that luxury. Asia is buying oil from a war zone. And the price has gone vertical.

JPMorgan, not exactly doomsday preppers in tinfoil hats, called the calm in Brent and WTI "an illusion." They said once Western stockpiles burn through, Brent snaps up $50 to meet the Middle Eastern benchmarks. That puts $108 at $160. Minimum. Citi is forecasting $130 Brent as an average. Add the Asian premium and you're at $190.

One missile away from $200 oil.

And guess what just happened.

Israel hit Iran's South Pars gas field. World's largest natural gas reserve. On fire. Iran retaliated within hours. Ballistic missile through Qatar's air defences. Hit Ras Laffan. World's largest LNG facility. 20% of global supply. Also on fire.

Iran then published a fucking shopping list of what's next. Saudi refineries. UAE gas fields. Qatari petrochemical plants. Named them. Told them to evacuate. Then started launching. Saudi Arabia shot down four missiles over Riyadh. The UAE is engaging incoming fire right now. ExxonMobil, Aramco, ADNOC, all evacuating staff.

Now here's the bit the spin doctors really don't want you thinking about.

Everyone's focused on the Strait of Hormuz. Fair enough. It's basically shut. Only 90 ships through in three weeks. That used to be a few days of traffic.

But a shipping lane is a shipping lane. Sign a ceasefire. Send in minesweepers. Within weeks you've got tankers moving.

You know what you can't fix in weeks? A refinery with a ballistic missile hole in it.

These facilities took a decade to plan and five years to build. Cryogenic systems. Compression units. Heat exchangers the size of apartment buildings. A missile goes through one and you're looking at 12 to 18 months minimum. Structural fire damage? Years. Plural.

So pretty soon it won't matter if the Strait reopens because there won't be any fucking refineries left to refine the oil. And even if there were, there aren't enough plumbers on planet Earth to put them back together again.

You can reopen a door. You can't reopen a building that's been turned into a crater.

And who do we have to thank for this masterpiece of strategic genius?

A 79 year old man who dodged the draft five times, went bankrupt running casinos, and thinks windmills cause cancer.

This bloke looked at Iran, a country that spent 45 years building an asymmetric warfare doctrine specifically designed to turn the Persian Gulf into an uninsurable hellscape the moment anyone touched them, and thought yeah nah, we'll just bomb them. They'll probably throw roses.

They didn't throw roses. They did exactly what every defence analyst and every bloke at the pub with a basic grasp of geography said they'd do. They hit the oil. Everyone's oil.

Iran has the world by the balls. Not America. Not Israel. Iran.

And this isn't some desperate improvisation. This is 45 years of meticulous, obsessive planning being executed exactly as designed. The missiles. The drones. The fast attack boats. The mine warfare. The proxy networks. Every piece placed over four decades for one single purpose: making any attack on Iran so catastrophically expensive that no rational actor would ever attempt it.

They didn't just plan for this day. They fantasised about it. They war gamed it. They built their entire military identity around it. The Strait of Hormuz is their nuclear option without the nuclear. And they've had 45 years to figure out exactly how to shut it down and keep it shut.

Then some spray tanned game show host gave them the excuse to pull the trigger.

Iran doesn't need to win. They just need to keep squeezing. Every day the war continues, oil goes up. Every refinery that burns, the recovery timeline extends by years. Every missile that lands, another insurer pulls coverage, another shipping company refuses to sail, another refinery cuts production because it can't source crude.

They are squeezing Donald Trump's nuts like they have never been squeezed before. And the beautiful, horrible irony is that every bomb America drops makes the squeeze tighter. You hit their gas field? They hit Qatar's. You take out their leadership? They publish a target list and start ticking boxes. You send another carrier group? Insurance premiums go up and the tankers sit in port.

Every punch drives the price higher. Iran has known this for 45 years. This is the moment they've been waiting for. And Donald Trump walked right into it like a drunk stumbling into a cage fight thinking it was a buffet.

There is no military solution. You cannot aircraft carrier your way out of $200 oil. You cannot drone strike the laws of supply and demand.

Trump needs to pick up his bat and ball and get the fuck off the Arabian oil fields. No conditions. No victory lap. Just stop. Because every day this continues another refinery burns and another $10 gets added to the price of everything you buy, eat, drive, and heat your home with.

If he doesn't, he exits the presidency as the man who tanked the global economy and handed Iran the greatest strategic victory in its modern history. He will leave office like a flaming ball of African dung beetle shit rolling downhill, getting bigger and more catastrophic with every rotation, and history will remember him not as a strongman but as the single dumbest strategic decision maker to ever hold the launch codes.

They're showing you $108 because $153 would cause a panic. And honestly? A panic might be exactly what's needed. Because the only thing stopping this lunatic from turning a regional war into a global depression is American voters looking at the price on the bowser and finally saying enough.

$200 oil doesn't care about your politics. Doesn't care who you voted for. Doesn't care about red hats or freedom or any of that culture war horseshit. It hits every man, woman, and child on the planet right in the hip pocket. The truckie. The single mum. The pensioner. Everyone.

Right now the only thing standing between the global economy and total meltdown is whether a 79 year old man with the emotional regulation of a toddler in a Kmart can swallow his pride long enough to stop a war he should never have started.

Destination fucked doesn't begin to cover it.!!
You have some excellent points.

Although the narrative here is that only 20% of the worlds oil goes by ship through the Strait of Hormuz. Where does the other 80% come from? (pls note that most US states get their fuel from crude oil that comes from Canada).

Now the civilian population has a back up of gas and oil (in most countries). So too do the world's military. They have a different storage of gas and oil, enough to fight a world war for 2-4 years (although if I was a military planner I would of made that 3 times (6) (#years WW2 happened)).

In WW2 factories were back up in months after being bombed. The same I would assume for refineries in the gulf area.

The oil in the gulf that is transported is heavy crude to light crude not refined gas. Most countries perfer heavy to light crude, because they can make their own products at each stage of the oil distillation in their own countries. Every thing from road asphalt to plastics to oil, lubricants, and gas for cars and ICE engines.

Saudi Arabia has built a pipeline across their ismus (country) from the Persian gulf to the Red Sea. Bypassing the Strait of Hormuz.

I hate to say but Trump could be trying to fuck up BRIC and its alternate trading routes in Asia by taking out Iran. Israel goal is to get rid of areas that can bomb them. BRIC posses a major threat to American Debt and Oil dollar.

Trump has seriously depleted stocks of missiles for the strategic planning. By drawing resource to the Persian gulf and Iran, he weakens the South China Sea and far east countries of Japan, South Korea, Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Thailand etc.
 

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Looking at her watch, 'this guy is a total fuck-wad, get me the fuck out of here before I nuke Hawaii again.'
The same look of disgust almost every foreign leader has when looking at the pedo-in-chief.

America - not just Trump - has ruined the global trading system. America has shown itself greedy, xenophobic and ignorant.
The damage to the oil infrastructure will take a decade to repair. Nobody will forget who caused it. Israel and their lapdog America will never regain trust.
 
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Former Defence Secretary Jim Matts was asked last night how long it will take for America to regain the trust of its allies. 10 Years was his answer. It’s refreshing to see that at least some Americans understand the damage Trump has done, but I think even he is optimistic. Even when Trump finally corks it there are still MAGA idiots everywhere, it will take a generation for America to recover it’s reputation as a trustworthy partner. It may never.
 
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