2025 Canadian Political Thread

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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...S&cvid=68df418aaa7d432b95b3b1ef9fa7610e&ei=16

When this lawyer gets a degree in economics I just might want to hear what he says.....
He uses the world court to express why we shouldn't burn fossil fuels, but neglects to say that China, Russian and the USA are big polluters of CO2. Canada contributes less than 2% of the worlds CO2 emissions and our economy is bad.

This guys head is in his ass, as the world runs on fossil fuels. Yes it would be nice to get to the carbon free economy, but its not how chemistry and physics work (this could take centuries and even then CO2 will still be produced). Their end goal is to get you to live in stone huts and not burn wood for heat... that is just backwards....

Private companies don't want to invest in pipeline due to the restrictions of the environmental bill and the interference of Aboriginal peoples right to be consulted in mega projects like this (which means more payoffs and less profit).

The thing about the comment section of these type of videos is the comments are turned off by the news company, not really wanting honest feedback.....

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

Can feel this coming from miles away, how fucked up can things get!🤦🏻‍♂️

 

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Auto sector tempering expectations of Carney's meeting with Trump

"Surely, after promising to negotiate a win, to have a deal by July 21, the prime minister is not flying all the way to Washington, D.C. just to have lunch? By the sounds of it, that is all the Liberals are going to accomplish," Poilievre charged in question period debate Monday.

https://www.biv.com/news/auto-sector-tempering-expectations-of-carneys-meeting-with-trump-11308729

Trump looks to be trying to embarrass Carney in front of Canadians inviting Carney for luncheon and sending Carney back empty handed. Regime change me once, shame on you. Regime change me a second time shame on me.

 

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Tuesday, Oct. 7, 2025, in Washington.

Poilievre also took issue with Carney's comments on investment, specifically when the prime minister said in front of Trump that Canada will probably invest about $1 trillion in the U.S. over the next five years "if we get the agreement that we expect to get."

Poilievre charged that would likely mean "closing mines and factories in Canada" to move them south of the border.

https://www.biv.com/news/as-trump-d...nc-suggests-quick-deals-in-the-works-11314025

Meanwhile, Trump quips about annexation, dislike of the former president, hatred of wind power, no substance in trade talk.

Carney, I suppose could just print up a trillion dollars to buy into the States. Other nations, notibly Japan and Switzerland have done similarly. But such purchases don't jive with the multi-polar world we're headed for.

PM Carney you came up with a trillion dollars if such a thing actually exists in Canada. Your sworn duty to Canadians requires you to invest the trillion dollars in Canada.

 

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Does Carney think a trillion dollars invested offshore won't be inflationary in Canada? Maybe, but I should find out for sure.

 

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Understanding Money for Depositors
Why not understanding money. Been said money talks. You might as well understand what money says.

Let's say a credit union has $1 billion in customer deposits. If you're bored with the topic I can give you the punch line right now and end the drama so you can get back to what you're most interested. Namely, the credit union or bank can create and lend out $10 billion now without touching any of the $1 billion customer deposits.

Carney's comment for Trump about Canada investing a trillion dollars in America over 5 years really about currency manipulation. For Carney to buy a trillion dollars worth of US stock first Carney would have to buy a trillion US dollars. The value of the US dollar would go up and value of Canadian dollar would go down. US goods would be more expensive for Canadians to buy. Canadian goods would be cheaper to buy.

Now you could just digest the morsel. For many a fact already more than the vast majority know. Not just depositors but bank employees as well, all the way up to senior managerial levels don't know either about how money gets created out of thin air because neither the depositor nor the borrower nor the bank employee need to know anything more to administer a loan.

In related News:
Folks who study the money process say AI uses too much electricity. Bigly. Making parallels between bubbles. Tech bubble of 2002. The problems of the 2008 financial crisis weren't addressed. Sub-prime loans as prevalent today as '08. Trump summoned 800 US military generals and admirals from postings around the world to attend a meeting in an auditorium addressed by Trump. To end "woke" in military training, loose weight and get back into shape.

Money the reason people don't sleep at night. Money paid back gets retired except for the interest the bank keeps. The monitary system demands growth to avoid collapsing. If people stopped borrowing and paid off the loans the money would disappear from circulation. Only the rich would have any cash to spend.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

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Tuesday, Oct. 7, 2025, in Washington.

Poilievre also took issue with Carney's comments on investment, specifically when the prime minister said in front of Trump that Canada will probably invest about $1 trillion in the U.S. over the next five years "if we get the agreement that we expect to get."

Poilievre charged that would likely mean "closing mines and factories in Canada" to move them south of the border.

https://www.biv.com/news/as-trump-d...nc-suggests-quick-deals-in-the-works-11314025

Meanwhile, Trump quips about annexation, dislike of the former president, hatred of wind power, no substance in trade talk.

Carney, I suppose could just print up a trillion dollars to buy into the States. Other nations, notibly Japan and Switzerland have done similarly. But such purchases don't jive with the multi-polar world we're headed for.

PM Carney you came up with a trillion dollars if such a thing actually exists in Canada. Your sworn duty to Canadians requires you to invest the trillion dollars in Canada.

Wednesday, Oct.8, 2025, in Vancouver

From the US State Department

How much do Canadians contribute to the US economy?

Every day, $3.6 billion in goods and services crosses the Canada-U.S. border, fueling a $1.3 trillion annual trade relationship. This partnership supports: 1.4 million American jobs tied to Canadian exports. 2.3 million Canadian jobs tied to U.S. exports.

"this is historical"
Canada does not have to "Come Up With" this amount, it already has a huge stake in the US and if the orange felon and the fascist regime can be overthrown, this can grow pretty much organically.
Petulant Peepee can say what he wants and his followers can repost it but those who know he is a fucking slimy dick, understand that 99% of what he states is just shit talking.
Pathetic that he is all the conservative party can come up with.

 

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Recent survey by the BC Ferry and Marine Workers’ Union found 80 per cent of members responding said they’ve been threatened with violence. More than nine in 10 witnessed threats, and nearly two-thirds say the incidents affect mental health. Incidents include passengers driving vehicles toward staff, biting and kicking, the union said. Nearly half of survey respondents said violence or threats have made them consider quitting.

Billions in Chinese ferry contracts to placate clown acts. Could wait a few years for a local contractor to build for BC.

 

[Crookedmember]

Billions in Chinese ferry contracts to placate clown acts. Could wait a few years for a local contractor to build for BC.

Could be more than a few years. Which will mean cost increases. Then years more to build.

Canada-China trade is about $120 billion per year. With Canada exporting $60 billion to China, and China exporting $60 billion to Canada.

The ferry deal is part of a normal trade relationship that has been made political to score cheap points.

 

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AI Overview
In 2024, the total bilateral trade value between China and Canada was approximately C$118.71 billion, a slight decrease from the previous year. Canada exported about $30 billion in goods to China, while it imported roughly $87 billion from China, resulting in a trade deficit of approximately $57 billion for Canada.

This sh*t has to stop.

 

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The problem with shipbuilding in Canada is the high labour costs. Which usually means high material costs. China has lower wages and lower material costs. Even low IQ morons of politicians should be able to see that.
The only result of any national ship building program is to have a ship yard (that is convertible for construction needs) and has a constant building program to keep long term employees employed. Not this build a ship class for the navy every 30 years.

Without a shipbuilding strategy for Canada, Canada will lose the Arctic to China and Russia as the ice melts for longer periods every year. Lets think gas and oil and mineral wealth Canada will lose out on for future use.

Southern Ontario is a bog of transportation hell due to traffic light ideaism (the use of traffic lights instead of off-ramps). Ontario will have to reposess property to have a better efficient highway/transportation system. Its not going to be cheap.

The current models depend too much on trailer truck transports instead of bulk transport by trains or ships.
Also AB,SASK and MB have to have a better transportation infrastructure for large overweight shipping items.
Ideally Northern Ontario can produce (hydro-electric) is is a good place for major manufacturing. Its just short of heavy transport items.

Politicians have to take their heads out of their asses and talk to industry. Limit profits to 10%, just like WW2 USA, so that we build things that Canadians need.

The priority for Canada should be:
1. Independent Food supply (building hot houses for use in winter months- like the 6 million dollar man, we Canada have the technology)
2. National ship building industry (supported by mining and heavy industry, heavy metal casting and machining and 3d printing).
3. High tech investment (Electronic-phones, chips, 3D printing)
4. Housing strategy (multi-generational, highrise apartment, instead of single famiily homes in large cities).

 

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Carney’s trade negotiations with the Trump administration offer little signs of reconciling the differences. He is being told there will be no full-fledged trade deal, but a bunch of customized carve-outs that extract, well, who knows what—because several months in now, the talks have no end in sight, nor even the slightest definition as to what they will entail, impose, or excavate when it comes to our living standards.

...the hit lands unevenly—Ontario in autos, B.C. in forestry, the Prairies in energy-adjacent manufacturing and crops. Provinces will seek targeted support; Ottawa will tie aid to reforms on permitting, approvals, or training pipelines.

Carney’s immediate challenge is to re-create the “Team Canada” discipline of 2017-18 without the luxury of a cooperative counterpart in the White House. That means narrowing the Canadian list of priorities, clarifying what we won’t trade away, and building provincial coalitions that don’t go rogue when the microphone beckons.

If Carney can’t corral those differences into a single playbook, Washington will do the corralling for him, and Canada will live with the version of marital unity the U.S. prefers.

https://www.biv.com/news/commentary...es-before-washington-does-it-for-him-11357872

Canada screams for internal trade to lessen impact of external. When will the traditional manufacturing of Ontario and Quebec step up with products Canadians currently buy offshore? Do we have any realtors in forum who can say if anything going into the apartment towers going up in metro Vancouver buy Canadian made equipment? Wealthy immigrants bringing Canadian cash back Canadians spent offshore? Anything from cranes and trucks to elevators and glass to furnishings the occupants bring in?

 

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From BC Bud to Ecstasy, Meth, and Fentanyl: How Canada’s Vast Landscape and Permissive Laws Were Progressively Exploited


“They’re getting inundated in Australia with cocaine. Same with New Zealand. And now, of course, they’re getting hit with fentanyl shipments. And I believe — I don’t have proof of this — that a lot of it’s coming from these Canadian production operations,”

“Defence lawyers pore over the paperwork, and if police have inadvertently submitted a document that required some level of vetting to protect witnesses or informants, the investigation will be stayed by Crown Counsel. E-Pirate in British Columbia, a large money-laundering investigation tied to high-level drug trafficking, is a good example of this,”

“Canadian disclosure laws are exploited by defence lawyers in Canada. Countless requests are made for more and more documents, resulting in time delays, and many cases never see a courtroom due to ‘prosecutorial’ delays that are now strictly enforced by Canadian courts.”

...disgraceful that Canada is now recognized by our partners as a source country,” they said. “You can also include that many experienced officers were questioning directives from Ottawa related to which organized crime should be investigated and which investigations would receive higher priority and therefore funding. The directives did not align with regional intelligence and intelligence shared by foreign partners. We openly discussed amongst ourselves the real potential of corruption at some level.”

https://www.thebureau.news/p/from-bc-bud-to-ecstasy-meth-and-fentanyl
(Paywall after 24 hours)

Our powers-that-be seem to think more of covering their errant child of past legislative failures and case law than the Canadian economy or what our allies think of us.

 

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Swedish Saab JAS 39 Grippen

Lougheed Martin F35 Lightning

The F-35 is a technologically superior fifth-generation stealth fighter designed for air dominance in contested environments, while the Gripen E is a lighter, more affordable multi-role fighter better suited for nations with smaller budgets or limited infrastructure, excelling in agility and dispersed operations. The choice depends on a nation's specific needs, as the F-35 offers maximum situational awareness and stealth, whereas the Gripen provides a cost-effective, highly maneuverable option for air policing and patrolling, especially in challenging environments like the Arctic.
F-35 Advantages
• Stealth:
Its primary advantage is advanced stealth technology, making it very difficult to detect and target.
• Sensor Fusion & Situational Awareness:
The F-35 integrates advanced sensors to create a comprehensive, unified picture for the pilot, offering superior situational awareness.
• Networked Warfare:
It excels at seamlessly integrating with other F-35 flying nations, promoting deterrence and enabling collaborative operations.
• High-Threat Environments:
It is designed to penetrate and dominate contested airspace, making it ideal for high-intensity conflicts.
Gripen E Advantages
• Cost-Effectiveness:
The Gripen is significantly cheaper to acquire and operate than the F-35, making it a more viable option for many countries.
• Agility and Maneuverability:
Its delta wing and canard design provide excellent maneuverability, making it highly agile in the air.
• Versatility and Dispersed Operations:
The Gripen can operate from austere airfields and stretches of public roads, offering great flexibility for dispersed operations, particularly in challenging locations.
• High Service Availability:
It has very low maintenance requirements and high service availability compared to the F-35.
Key Differences
• Stealth vs. Maneuverability:
The F-35 is a stealth-focused aircraft, while the Gripen prioritizes agility and electronic warfare capabilities.
• Situational Awareness:
The F-35's sensor fusion capabilities provide unparalleled situational awareness, a significant advantage over the Gripen.
• Internal vs. External Stores:
The F-35 carries its weapons internally to maintain its stealth profile, whereas the Gripen carries most of its stores externally, increasing its radar cross-section.



Each F35 costs between $115 million to $140 million Cdn. Contains about $3.2 million Cdn worth of parts. Grippen one-sixth as much with 80% of the capabilities. Possibility of Grippen construction in Canada. F35 at most 2.8% Canadian made components. US$35,000 per hour to operate F-35. The Grippen operating cost about $5000 per hour. For all the far reaching integrated sensors, the F35 doesn't know what's on screen without costly mission data updates involving ground based intelligence to make identifications. Meant for penetrating active war zones. F-35 stealth width optimally of a bumblebee when not degraded or deteriorated. Canada committed to purchasing 16 F35s with option of another 72. I think Canada should stop here and say hello to the versatile agile Grippen E. F35 contractors in Canada may continue to bid.

 

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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...S&cvid=68f655dedc834dccb30a3200f93f966c&ei=57

Photos and fingerprints... are visitors now criminals just for entering the USA now?That is the only reason to check for photos and fingerprints is to check for criminality......

Canadian passports not good enough? Nexus not good enough??

 

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The UN just advanced a GLOBAL CARBON TAX on shipping could DOUBLE overseas freight costs for Canadians.

And guess what?
The Liberals ALREADY signed on in April QUIETLY.

So they ditch the U.S. for “new partners”…
Then TAX the ships to get there.

You can’t make this sh*t up.

 

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Forests Minister Parmar says workers in B.C. deserve "same treatment" as in Ontario

VICTORIA — Forests Minister Ravi Parmar says it is "unacceptable" that Ottawa always steps up when it comes to supporting key sectors in Ontario and Quebec, but "continues to drop the ball" when it comes to supporting B.C. forestry.

Parmar said he does not want to "pit workers against workers," adding that he is glad that Ottawa is providing the support for those workers in Ontario.

...appeal comes after Parmar joined Premier David Eby and other industry leaders Tuesday in asking the federal government to help the sector in the face of tariffs now adding up to 45 per cent.

https://www.biv.com/news/resources-...deserve-same-treatment-as-in-ontario-11366726

Premier Eby reportedly asking Ottawa to declare national emergency to aid BC forest industry. Good idea. Something to wake up the industry in Ontario and Quebec for machinery fabrication. I don't want to think all the new apartment towers around metro Vancouver likely importing the plumbing, heating and elevators. For the excesses of new comers each year recently who aren't wealthy enough to buy outright some of them should be more than enough to fill Canada’s manufactured needs.

 

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https://globalnews.ca/news/11485686/richmond-homeowners-letter-first-nations-land-claim/

You should check out the CBC news points on same subject.
With Native claims to over 110% of Canada, your house is at risk too.
Although in the CBC article, the claim is that Aboriginals will not go after home owners but after corporations, Federal land and city land. So what is the difference between a home owner and the other land owners??
Land that is owned by the other entities; can afford to pay off any land claim, but not upset a home owner (MHO). Or do they wait until the current home owners sale or die and then recover the land?
Either way it will piss off the general public and turn opinion against Aboriginals and their land claims.

It is funny the Federal government can arbitrarily tell Canadians that they will pay taxes (income and land taxes), but won't Tell the Aboriginals that the Land in Canada belongs to the Crown. And then take taxpayers money to bribe them every year with billions of Canadian Taxpayers money.... I don't think politicians have any balls to tell the Aboriginals that or pass legislation to that.

Giving that a homeowner has between their consciousness (on Aboriginal land claims) and having to give up their investment in their home, what do you think they will choose.

Given that this happened over 140 years ago, no one is alive to put in claims. It the same principle that if your Grandfather committed a crime, you the descendant of your grandfather (grandson/granddaughter) will have to pay for that crime.

Everybody in this issue has their heads buried in the sand, hoping it will not become confrontational.

If you want everybody to be equal, you have to treat them equally, and for Aboriginals that means giving up land claims in Canada and start paying income tax and land taxes on reservations.

 

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Does anyone feel a new Federal Election is around the corner.
When the Federal budget does not pass, it will be a vote for non-confidence in the Liberal minority government.

When that happens it will be a majority for the conservatives, due to Carney's elbows down, and continued mandated of curtailing CO2 emissions. CO2 emissions which directly relate to energy and the economic future of Canada.

Here in Canada it gets cold in the winter, so we burn wood, oil, gas to heat our homes. This will not change unless we invest in nuclear energy to supply electricity to heat our homes.
Canadian transport system is dependant on fossil fuels to transfer food and material between cities and provinces. Fossil fuels burn (a chemical process with oxygen in the air, which produces CO2 and water vapour and heat).

Physically impossible to get away from producing CO2 in our country, and the mandate is to try and not produce it. ?? As Canadians we would freeze in winter and not have food and materials delivered on time, to enjoy life as we know it.

The other thing I would like to see is an transparent/open policy on what government spends our taxpayer money on. Government agencies need to be more accountable and transparent.

The next election I would like to see debate on what Canada should be...

Another would be a strong military properly equipment to help Canadian allies and 3-4 DART team capability (medical for humanitarian aid) with air transport, with ship transport too.

A very strong presense in the Arctic. With 4-5 operational bases near the NW passage with SAR and drone surveillance of Arctic water and spill clean up teams, due to rising influx of cargo ships as the Arctic warms up.

 

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“51st State”, Déjà Vu

Ultimately what is at stake is that beneath the rhetoric, Canada will cease to function as a sovereign Nation:
-Its borders will be controlled by US officials and confidential information on Canadians will be shared with Homeland Security.
-US troops and Special Forces will be able to enter Canada as a result of a binational arrangement.
-Canadian citizens can be arrested by US officials, acting on behalf of their Canadian counterparts and vice versa.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/canad...ardy-the-militarization-of-north-america/6572

"Vice versa"? The cross border shopping adventures now extend to sleuthing. Americans can come up to Canada and nail Chinese drug triads for fentanyl, methamphetamine shipments to the States. I don't favour the situation. I'd rather Canadian law didn't make internal investigations so difficult by informing suspects of being under investigation.