2019 Election thread

CanineCowboy

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You are incorrect on that matter.Harper prorogued parliament because that pussywimp Dion,the commie Jack Layton and the power hungry Gilles Duceppe tried to form a coalition government and HIJACK government.The reaction by the public
was quite vocal and it was "I did not vote for those clowns".What happened then was the Governor General allowed the action to prorogue parliament and along the way Harper basically said "do you want another election?"

Back when the Lieberals under Martin"who was a competent man" lost a Majority he was handed and after an election and did not win the most seats in the election he resigned as PM.Pierre Trudeau did the same when he lost to Joe Clark but Trudeau also recinded his leadership resignation 9 months later.

Harper did not get the chance for even a throne speech as the 3 clowns tried to overthrow democracy.If Andrew Scheer wins a Plurality of seats his party gets the first chance of governance.

SR
But they did vote for those 'clowns' - they held a combined majority of seats (and of the popular vote).
 

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When Trudeau was asked by a member of the Lieberal biased media if he asked Obama for the endorsement he dodged the question and did not emphatically say "NO".

I personally am offended that Obama would try to influence the election and a lot of Canadians are on the same boat as I am.If you are not a Canadian politician with your chips in the game you should shut your fucking pie hole just like at a poker table.

SR
The good thing to come out of this is that this ends forever the stigma of being caught in blackface. Justin did it not once, not twice, but at least three times and at least the final one during a time when he certainly should have known better. But now, the endorsement of Justin from the first black President of the United States shows that blackface is actually ok and deserves to be rewarded and that female tv host who said that she thought it was ok to wear blackface as a kid on halloween back in the 80s and got fired should get her job back.
 

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When Trudeau was asked by a member of the Lieberal biased media if he asked Obama for the endorsement he dodged the question and did not emphatically say "NO".

I personally am offended that Obama would try to influence the election and a lot of Canadians are on the same boat as I am.If you are not a Canadian politician with your chips in the game you should shut your fucking pie hole just like at a poker table.

SR
Be offended all you like. Outcome of election isn't going to change much of anything one way or the other in Alberta. A bunch of second generation ex-patriot Americans aren't going to usurp the revenues of Alberta's oil industry. Not while 416 years of Quebec pre-eminence in Canada, plus 68 years before that in pre-settlement exploration, laid the ground work to bring Alberta into the Canadian confederation. Regardless of what the Canadian Constitution says about provincial mineral rights, Conservative governments agreed. Governments of Lougheed, Klein, Diefenbaker, Mulroney and Harper all went along with sharing energy resource revenue with the rest of Canada.

You're not a hero of Dieppe or Normandy after gallivanting off to fight for the Deep State and the Military Industrial Complex. Don't expect to be treated as such. All that I got for my good technical trades and supervisory experience fighting the Cold War in Europe when the Soviets rolled tanks into Prague was a place at the end of the line behind local technical school graduates and a job driving welfare recipients home from the bars at Hastings and Columbia Streets in downtown Vancouver.

There's one job left in Canada. Building an export manufacturing sector for what's left of a Canadian economy that was sucked away to build empire. Not part of the job to dis a prime minister who has tried to preserve, not just good paying jobs but jobs that provide foreign income for the Canadian economy. A prominent black man has forgiven Justin for his preferential choice of party costume. If you think that you have a legitimate complaint against Justin Trudeau, it's the same complaint against all parties at all levels of Canadian government, provincial, territorial, municipal and federal that have complacently 7 decades watched as Canadians fail to produce the value of products consumed by Canadians.
 

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Bumping my Sept / 2019 quote and still staying with my prediction that Liberals will reclaim the office. Whether a minority or not....doesn't matter what's being said. Hope that I am wrong. And adding...I think it's pathetic how Obama throwing in his 2 bits in push for a liberal win. Hopefully persuade Canadians to vote for Turdeau. Typical left wing!! Let the Canadian people vote and decide and not use outside influence!!!

With all of this negative accusation that's being thrown towards Turdeau, I'm rooting for a defeat and a new PM at helm. But, and I'll go on record and say that, sadly, Turdeau will win and take office again and become PM for another 4 years.

Most Canadians cant think outside the box and are brainwashed / blindsided by his looks and charisma. It'll happen. He'll win.
 

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Be offended all you like. Outcome of election isn't going to change much of anything one way or the other in Alberta. A bunch of second generation ex-patriot Americans aren't going to usurp the revenues of Alberta's oil industry. Not while 416 years of Quebec pre-eminence in Canada, plus 68 years before that in pre-settlement exploration, laid the ground work to bring Alberta into the Canadian confederation. Regardless of what the Canadian Constitution says about provincial mineral rights, Conservative governments agreed. Governments of Lougheed, Klein, Diefenbaker, Mulroney and Harper all went along with sharing energy resource revenue with the rest of Canada.

You're not a hero of Dieppe or Normandy after gallivanting off to fight for the Deep State and the Military Industrial Complex. Don't expect to be treated as such. All that I got for my good technical trades and supervisory experience fighting the Cold War in Europe when the Soviets rolled tanks into Prague was a place at the end of the line behind local technical school graduates and a job driving welfare recipients home from the bars at Hastings and Columbia Streets in downtown Vancouver.

There's one job left in Canada. Building an export manufacturing sector for what's left of a Canadian economy that was sucked away to build empire. Not part of the job to dis a prime minister who has tried to preserve, not just good paying jobs but jobs that provide foreign income for the Canadian economy. A prominent black man has forgiven Justin for his preferential choice of party costume. If you think that you have a legitimate complaint against Justin Trudeau, it's the same complaint against all parties at all levels of Canadian government, provincial, territorial, municipal and federal that have complacently 7 decades watched as Canadians fail to produce the value of products consumed by Canadians.
Your response is purile to say the least.I will address your view of Quebec and I will say Quebec would not have it as good if Alberta had no natural resources.The reason both University education and child care are so cheap in Quebec is because of the money the Province gets through transfer payments from the Federal government.Alberta sends a lot more than it gets back and Quebec sends a lot less and gets a lot more back....<this is a fact please dispute it

With regards to the endorsement by Obama,to my recall such a thing has never happened in Canadian political history.It was Trudeau calling for a favor from his bromance partner.It is an ex US President pandering for Trudeau in a Canadian election.This is just more of the PR stunt Trudeau pulled Thanksgiving weekend when he wore a bullet proof vest because of a "possible threat" when it was just simply the way to change the channel during an election.

SR
 

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Your response is purile to say the least.I will address your view of Quebec and I will say Quebec would not have it as good if Alberta had no natural resources.The reason both University education and child care are so cheap in Quebec is because of the money the Province gets through transfer payments from the Federal government.Alberta sends a lot more than it gets back and Quebec sends a lot less and gets a lot more back....<this is a fact please dispute it

With regards to the endorsement by Obama,to my recall such a thing has never happened in Canadian political history.It was Trudeau calling for a favor from his bromance partner.It is an ex US President pandering for Trudeau in a Canadian election.This is just more of the PR stunt Trudeau pulled Thanksgiving weekend when he wore a bullet proof vest because of a "possible threat" when it was just simply the way to change the channel during an election.

SR
SR, I don't dispute, although I don't have the stats at my fingertips, that Quebec might be getting more proportionally than other provinces. But there's no point telling me about the elephant that's been in the room some time now. You shouldn't dispute that Quebec has had a lot skin in the game a lot longer than the Americans, that have opportunistically populated Alberta with descendants to reap oil riches alluded to in mineral rights set out in a Canadian constitution, fashioned by Britain long before anybody thought about uses of petroleum. And there's no motive in Barack Obama to pander to Justin Trudeau. The news media gist of the vest was that that was under advisement of police.
 

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Your response is purile to say the least.I will address your view of Quebec and I will say Quebec would not have it as good if Alberta had no natural resources.The reason both University education and child care are so cheap in Quebec is because of the money the Province gets through transfer payments from the Federal government.Alberta sends a lot more than it gets back and Quebec sends a lot less and gets a lot more back....<this is a fact please dispute it

With regards to the endorsement by Obama,to my recall such a thing has never happened in Canadian political history.It was Trudeau calling for a favor from his bromance partner.It is an ex US President pandering for Trudeau in a Canadian election.This is just more of the PR stunt Trudeau pulled Thanksgiving weekend when he wore a bullet proof vest because of a "possible threat" when it was just simply the way to change the channel during an election.

SR
You make 2 derogatory accusations against Trudeau with no credible proof, namely:

1) That Trudeau asked Obama for the endorsement.

2) That Trudeau wore the bullet proof vest without a real threat having been made to harm him.

If either of those accusations were actually true, you would be reading about them in a national newspaper, like the one made against Scheer and the Conservatives in my previous post.

JD
 

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SR, I don't dispute, although I don't have the stats at my fingertips, that Quebec might be getting more proportionally than other provinces. But there's no point telling me about the elephant that's been in the room some time now. You shouldn't dispute that Quebec has had a lot skin in the game a lot longer than the Americans, that have opportunistically populated Alberta with descendants to reap oil riches alluded to in mineral rights set out in a Canadian constitution, fashioned by Britain long before anybody thought about uses of petroleum.

But Brandon... I already bought a Moose Jaw, a Yellow Knife, and a Sou St. Marie, whatever that is....
 

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You make 2 derogatory accusations against Trudeau with no credible proof, namely:

1) That Trudeau asked Obama for the endorsement.

2) That Trudeau wore the bullet proof vest without a real threat having been made to harm him.

If either of those accusations were actually true, you would be reading about them in a national newspaper, like the one made against Scheer and the Conservatives in my previous post.

JD
As if any Canadian media outlet would even think of running any kind of story that might damage the Lieberals.The only reason the Canadian media followed up the brown/blackface scandal is because they had no other choice.
It was an American media outlet that broke the story and most if not all Canadian media had the info they were not doing anything with it.On Thursday the Toronto Star came right out and fully endorsed the Liberal Party
which is just plain wrong as the media are supposed to be neutral but are so Liberal biased it is nuts.Just after the main english leaders debate the Conservatives used some clips from the debate in election ads and the
Conservative Party was sued by the CBC over it whilst the election had over a week to go.

Anything the Canadian media has to say I dont take with a grain of salt but a tablespoon of it.

SR
 

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we don't share the same system as MOST EUROPEAN COUNTRIES






I never said it couldn't happen, I said it wasn't the NORM

or can you find one example in our history where a PM didn't relinquish power when they didn't win the most seats?

this good enough for a reference to how

https://www.ourcommons.ca/About/Compendium/ParliamentaryFramework/c_d_politicalpartiescanada-e.htm


5th paragraph, "usually" ie, the norm

again, can you point to one time when in Canada's history it didn't happen

and the unethical PM who tried to stay in power with less seats?

who didn't respect the electorate?

Bueller? anyone? anyone?

just look at what happened in New Brunswick recently, the Liberal leader mouthed off about what you suggest, fortunately he respected the vote, which his party didn't receive the most seats

you don't get the most seats, you vote out the minority, the way it's always been done before, then you could go to the Governor General and tell them you could form a government

but again, the NORM is to have a new election after you defeat the gov't in a confidence vote

Quoting the Toronto Star, you might as well be quoting Fox News, they have no cred, they're the left version of Fox, biased beyond belief

why do you think they brought up Turdeau clinging to power at any cost

only an completely unethical POS would suggest doing what they are suggesting

vote them down first, you don't cling to power when you didn't receive the most seats

it's unethical


here's a basic of the list over the yrs?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Canada_by_time_in_office

point it out where it happened?

I can't see anyone who did?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1925_Canadian_federal_election
 

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Anybody stating numbers or idea publicly or on a board to back an idea/opinion should refer to statscan, taxpayer federation, oecd numbers or any recognized publication as it would saves us a lot eye rolling , disbelief and laughs of incredulity. That is if you really want to make a point or convince people of your point of view . Otherwise it comes across as someone ludicrous opinion, trolling or simple rhetoric.
 

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yeah, another crooked Liberal, 100 yrs ago, basically

since, 5 times, when the government has won fewer seats, they've resigned

the bottomline is Trudeau will do anything to hold onto power

why do you think they've been promoting this scenario

it hasn't happened since, cause we've had politicians with basic ethics

he has less seats, he should defeat the party with more, (unless they decline to try to form government), then go to the Governor General after a no confidence vote

like recently happened in New Brunswick, Liberal Leader didn't try to stay, with less seats

or

like in BC, former gov't Liberals didn't try to stay, with most seats, cause they knew with Greens 3 they couldn't succeed

2 different cases, not the same, but the way it should be

but Trudeau has no ethics, which is clear even to a blind deaf man
 

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yeah, another crooked Liberal, 100 yrs ago, basically

since, 5 times, when the government has won fewer seats, they've resigned

the bottomline is Trudeau will do anything to hold onto power

why do you think they've been promoting this scenario

it hasn't happened since, cause we've had politicians with basic ethics

he has less seats, he should defeat the party with more, (unless they decline to try to form government), then go to the Governor General after a no confidence vote

like recently happened in New Brunswick, Liberal Leader didn't try to stay, with less seats

or

like in BC, former gov't Liberals didn't try to stay, with most seats, cause they knew with Greens 3 they couldn't succeed

2 different cases, not the same, but the way it should be

but Trudeau has no ethics, which is clear even to a blind deaf man
Huh... I remember it in real time, stop consuming Rebel Media, it has you reimagining reality, they both tried to stay in government, but neither could negotiate the necessary support from the Green parties to attempt to govern.

This morning, watching Scheer caught in the headlights of his latest scandal, after a week of reciting rehearsed lies and misinformation, was sad. I have sympathy for socially progressive fiscal conservatives, their party was hijacked by a socially repressive, climate change denying, alt-right fringe.

A university friend who had voted Conservative his whole life abandoned the party last election. He said, honestly, although he hates Trudeau, he could never look his wife, daughters and neighbours in the eye and go cast a vote for another Harper or Scheer led Conservative Party. He has heard the rumors that Scheer will be forced out after losing Monday and there are hopes Peter MacKay will return and take over the leadership.

I wonder if Scheer will have the balls to resign in his concession speech?
 
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Fair warning to all - sources from tinfoil hat wearing lunatics won't be tolerated, nor will those from known white supremacists. There's a ton of 100% manufactured BS out there on the net, like the next Trudeau sex scandal and dozens more, that have been debunked as crap, and yet, those who hate those people will just say "oh they paid the media to kill it". if you cannot link to a reputable source, don't post it as fact, but your own opinion. Deletions will continue without apology if posters continue to post nonsense. Use the flag system.
 

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As of today Elizabeth May has promised electoral reform and to lower the voting age to 16....damn good thing her fringe party has a snowballs chance in hell of winning the election.

SR
 

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As of today Elizabeth May has promised electoral reform and to lower the voting age to 16....damn good thing her fringe party has a snowballs chance in hell of winning the election.

SR
That's awesome! Thanks for letting me know. Now I know who to vote for!

The Greens won't win, but just imagine: Trudeau gets less seats than the Conservatives but forms a coalition government with the Greens and NDP to get a majority, and the price is that they have to agree to these terms.
 
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