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Swine Flu Shot

6nanaimo9

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ok im not totally decided if i should get the swine flu shot or not? one day i hear its bad for you and the next day i hear you have to get it. is it true that the vaccine has only been tested for 6 weeks? because i have been getting regular seasonal shots am i more likely to get the swine flu? should i just be totally paranoid this winter and wash my hands every hour on the hour?!?!

what are your guy's take on the swine flu shot!?
 

athaire

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I am torn as well guys.....:confused:
 

Jodie

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Why bother?

Only 4,100 deaths worldwide in six months, and almost all of the people who died had pre-existing health conditions. Far fewer people have fallen ill and died from this virus than from the regular seasonal influenza. You probably have a greater risk of dying in an automobile accident.

Why would you want to inject mercury and genetically-engineered viruses into your body? Why take chances with a vaccination that has had relatively little laboratory testing?

Once you catch the H1N1 virus and get over it, you're immune for life. There's your innoculation.
 

kalel

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Only 4,100 deaths worldwide in six months, and almost all of the people who died had pre-existing health conditions. Far fewer people have fallen ill and died from this virus than from the regular seasonal influenza. You probably have a greater risk of dying in an automobile accident.

Why would you want to inject mercury and genetically-engineered viruses into your body? Why take chances with a vaccination that has had relatively little laboratory testing?

Once you catch the H1N1 virus and get over it, you're immune for life. There's your innoculation.
what she said. build up your immune system the right way - proper eating, vigorous exercise, and lots of fucking.
 

Very Veronica

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don't be a swine flu guinea pig

It is troubling how big pharma has taken control of the medical system and policy. Here's a thoughtful article from Dr. Frank Lipman, Integrative Physician & contributor at Huffington Post.

Summer is over and the question I am being asked most frequently in my practice is, "what do I do about Swine flu?" My patients are wondering whether or not they should get vaccinated and the simple answer I give most of the time is ..NO!

From what you may have read, you might think that the swine flu vaccine is the answer to swine flu. Unfortunately this is not true and until we know that the vaccine is safe, I cannot in good conscience recommend it to most of my patients.

From the outset, let me say, I am not anti all vaccinations, rather I am pro vaccine safety and freedom of choice. This is why am I not recommending the swine flu vaccine.

1) At this stage, for the most part the swine flu seems benign.

Over a million people in the US have already come down with swine flu, many of them without even knowing that they had it. The vast majority of people who get the swine flu recover after a week or so of high fever, aches, and respiratory distress. It's not pleasant, but except in rare circumstances, it is not fatal. Most people who've been infected by swine flu think so little of it, they believe they just had a really bad cold or a regular flu. So unless the swine flu evolves to a much more virulent form, there's no need for mass vaccination.

2) We don't know if the vaccine will be effective.

Vaccines are only useful against the specific viral strain that was available at the time of their manufacture. But influenza viruses mutate quickly, and as the WHO has already said, the real concern with H1N1 swine flu is that it will combine with seasonal flu in the Fall, creating a new strain that will of course be immune to all available vaccines.

3) We don't know if the vaccine is safe.

The FDA has authorized an expedited approval process for the swine flu vaccine but we don't know yet if it is safe. Even GlaxoSmithKline, one of the vaccine manufacturers has said, "The total population studied in clinical trials will be limited, due to the need to provide the vaccine to governments as quickly as possible. Additional studies will therefore be required and conducted after the vaccine is made available."
In other words, the only thing that is safe, is to say that no one knows. Since it's never been used before and they have not had time to conduct any sufficient human testing, by getting vaccinated you are being a human guinea pig.

4) Vaccine manufacturers have been insulated from liability by the government.

The Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sibelius has granted legal immunity not only to the makers of the 2 drugs being used to treat swine flu, Tamiflu and Relenza, but also to the swine flu vaccine makers, for damages due to their use against swine flu. By effectively manipulating the legal system, the Pharmaceutical Industry through their powerful lobbyists have acquired almost complete and total insulation from any liability for their vaccines and adjuvants, which are additives added to generate a stronger immune response. It is believed that it is these adjuvants which often cause the problems. The last time the government embarked on a major vaccine campaign against a new swine flu was in 1976. Thousands filed claims for side effects such as paralysis caused by the vaccine and a number of people died. I am sure that the researchers know more now than they did last time and no one can say for certain that bad things will happen again or that you will suffer dire consequences if you get vaccinated. But this time you have no legal recourse even though this vaccine involves new factors, which makes it therefore experimental and unpredictable.

By shielding the manufacturers from any responsibility for any harm caused, the pharmaceutical firms have no financial incentive to make the safest product. In fact, they have a negative incentive to test it for safety, because if they are aware of problems, then they could potentially be held liable for willful misconduct.

Instead I advise my patients to build up and strengthen their immune systems to prevent viral infections.


Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-frank-lipman/swine-flu-what-to-do_b_286245.html
 

deberry

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After all that has been written about the squalene the adjuvant which caused Gulf War syndrome and the mercury and everything else that is in it, if you take it you are crazy.
 

Shakerod

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It is troubling how big pharma has taken control of the medical system and policy. Here's a thoughtful article from Dr. Frank Lipman, Integrative Physician & contributor at Huffington Post.
I totally agree with you, a recent poll of mothers in the U.S. had 50% of them saying they would not let their children take the vaccine. Also 47% of the nurses in the U.K. refused to take it.
 

exuberanttoki

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H1N1 flu vaccine is available for the employees in most US hospitals, but supply has been very limited. Most hospital strongly recommend it to their employees. More than 90% of employees wanted to receive the vaccine.:rolleyes:
 

deberry

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H1N1 flu vaccine is available for the employees in most US hospitals, but supply has been very limited. Most hospital strongly recommend it to their employees. More than 90% of employees wanted to receive the vaccine.:rolleyes:
After showing you evidence like the Redskins cheerleader, if you still take this shot you are fuckin nuts!
 
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Only 4,100 deaths worldwide in six months, and almost all of the people who died had pre-existing health conditions. Far fewer people have fallen ill and died from this virus than from the regular seasonal influenza. You probably have a greater risk of dying in an automobile accident.

Why would you want to inject mercury and genetically-engineered viruses into your body? Why take chances with a vaccination that has had relatively little laboratory testing?

Once you catch the H1N1 virus and get over it, you're immune for life. There's your innoculation.
I agree ! No genetically - engineered viruses welcome here either
 

deberry

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I agree ! No genetically - engineered viruses welcome here either
Couldn't agree more. I really feel bad for all the people that are going to get suckered by the establishment "healthcare" providers. The big pharma/nwo machine is going to get a lot of people with this one. They have so much money and control all the major media and propaganda is off the charts with this garbage. All I hear when I listen to the news is how we are waiting for the swine flu shots. What a joke. It makes me so mad. People don't remember 1976 and the swine flu shot then, well this one will be way worse because of the new adjuvants.
 

exuberanttoki

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I got both h1n1 flu vaccine and influenza vaccine at the same time. I am still alive and functioning fine. No side effect.:rolleyes:
 

Ariel

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A great big No from me as well.If you are otherwise healthy you would be putting a barely tested vaccination into your blood and possibly putting your health in jeoperdy in the future. It hasn"t been tested enough.
 

TheGuy

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"People born before 1957 were exposed to ancestors of the new pandemic virus, which are in a lineage that goes back to the notorious H1N1 virus that touched off the raging pandemic of 1918-19. That's why people older than 52 are likely to have some protective antibodies that "cross-react" with the new H1N1 flu.

In 1957, for reasons flu experts don't fully understand, H1N1 viruses disappeared for 20 years. They were supplanted by other seasonal flu strains, such as the currently circulating H3N2. So younger Americans didn't get exposed to H1 viruses while they were growing up.

Then in 1977, H1N1 came back into circulation, possibly because of a laboratory accident in Russia that released an archived virus. Since then H1 viruses have evolved further away from earlier versions."


Clearly a communist plot recirculated to place nano-sized brain controllers in the the entire Western population.

Think about it!
 

big k

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35,000 people die in the US every flu season. Why worry about H1N1 - the media
and big Pharma are blowing this into hysteria
 

Ariel

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Yes Big K i agree. Autism and ADD in children has been directly linked to vaccination. Since i was old enough to disagree(Grade 4) me and my friend hid while everyone else was getting their shots. I am glad i was smarter than i knew at the time.
 
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