Nostradamus 2012?

[Rolls Royce]

Anybody watch the documentary about Nostradamus' predictions for 2012? Apparently, him, the Ancient Mayans, and the Egyptians discuss a significant event in the form of some kind of celestial alignment whereby the sun will be eclipsed along with the moon causing a doomsday catastrophe to take place. The inscribing along the insides and outsides of many temples all point to something major taking place in 2012, with no inscriptions beyond that date. Scary how alot of his predictions as well as the predictions of the Ancient Mayans and Egyptians have come true. Just wondering what people think?
Cheers,
R.R.

 

[FunSugarDaddy]

Hmm..
I think that the word apparently was aptly used here, because it is technically IMPOSSIBLE to have a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse at the same time. You'd need 2 moons to do that!

I heard that the Mayan calendar ends because it measures a particular astronomical cycle ending Dec 21st, 2012, and it's just a cycle that repeats itself.

It certainly is going to be interesting finding out just what happens. If anything, it's a important to be reminded to enjoy every day we have here.... never know when it's going to be your last.

xoxo
Nina

Words of wisdom my dear. Words of wisdom.

 

[FunSugarDaddy]

Anybody watch the documentary about Nostradamus' predictions for 2012? Apparently, him, the Ancient Mayans, and the Egyptians discuss a significant event in the form of some kind of celestial alignment whereby the sun will be eclipsed along with the moon causing a doomsday catastrophe to take place. The inscribing along the insides and outsides of many temples all point to something major taking place in 2012, with no inscriptions beyond that date. Scary how alot of his predictions as well as the predictions of the Ancient Mayans and Egyptians have come true. Just wondering what people think?
Cheers,
R.R.

I did something rather strange the other day, I read a book on of all things string theory. Basically the latest physics and comologist believe that there are multiple universes (best guess is 11 dimentionals and believe it or not this helps explain the apparent lack of gravity in our solar system and why the universe is apparently expanding.

The upshot was that they believe we are in a valley of sorts within the landscape of possibilities and that this allows for the myrid of factors to allow for life to exist at all. In the scheme of things there are literally hundreds of factors that have to come together to allow us to exist. If just one of those factors were to change for whatever reason, we'd be toast. However, I highly doubt that this is one of the factors that could cause our demise.

 

[teejay69]

I think that might be the year that Hubba actually posts a review.

 

[festealth]

Doomsday theories again....
Remember how Y2K was gonna crash all the computers and throw humanities back into the paleolithic age? Assuming all the nukes didn't go blowing up and wiping out humanity?
What about the significances of the "new" millenium and how it will be the Second Coming of Christ?
There was also some saying the sixth of June of 2006 will open some gateway to hell and Satan will walk the earth being more plague, wars and death to the world... just because the date happened to be 6/6/6?

All "prophecies" are "false" unless it happens to be "right" or "close enough". If you make thousands of guesses on the future, and they're recorded for the future, you're bound to get a few correct, but you're probably like 1-2% right.

Of course, if you're worried that it's the end and you believe that it will really come, then I recommend that you give me all your money, properties and other valuable assets... since you won't be needing them should the end happens to come.

 

[classycarly]

Anybody watch the documentary about Nostradamus' predictions for 2012? Apparently, him, the Ancient Mayans, and the Egyptians discuss a significant event in the form of some kind of celestial alignment whereby the sun will be eclipsed along with the moon causing a doomsday catastrophe to take place. The inscribing along the insides and outsides of many temples all point to something major taking place in 2012, with no inscriptions beyond that date. Scary how alot of his predictions as well as the predictions of the Ancient Mayans and Egyptians have come true. Just wondering what people think?
Cheers,
R.R.

Part of the 2012 mystery comes from the stars. On the winter solstice (Dec. 21 2012 I believe), the sun will be aligned with the center of the Milky Way for the first time in about 26,000 years. This means that whatever energy usually streams to Earth from the center of the Milky Way will be disrupted on Dec 21 2012 at 11:11 p.m. U.T. I believe the world will face some sort of major situation\change in 2012 for reasons that are too long and complex to go into here and I do believe that the Mayans were on to something. The Mayan Calendar is not predicting the end of the world in 2012 BTW, just the start of a new era. The reason the Mayan calendar only goes to 2012 is because that's when their calendar ended and they couldn't see past that date, as that's when the old cycle ends and the new begins. Kind of like a car.....On the Winter Solstice in 2012 it will be like the odometer of humanity on Earth hits 100,000 miles and all the cycles big and small turn over to start new. The present world age will end and a new world age will begin. I don't believe the world will end for all of us, but I do believe it "will change as we know it". No one, including Nostradamus, predicted the end of the world, just "the end of the world as we know it." It's essentially the planet realigning itself and starting over.......perhaps a worldwide earthquake that will wipe out most of humanity but still leave some unharmed who will bring in the new cycle......IMHO. (I don't know for sure but if anyone is still around in 2012 and one of the ones left behind, come back and let us all know, those of us left anyway, just what the skinny is. )

 

[classycarly]

I am pretty sure the 2012 new era is that Craigslist will require all SP's to post their true photos, name and define once and for all what a true Girl Friend Experience really is.

Well....that would certainly be a "big change as we know it" now wouldn't it?........

 

[Evolve]

Well this is really not making too much sense to me. The reason there is a winter solstice, is due to the angle of the axis upon which we spin and it's relation to our sun. It has absolutely nothing to do with our position in our galaxy. To relate the two, our sun aligned with the center of the milky way, and the winter solstice really doesn't make sense.

*snip*

xoxo
Nina

God, that was hot!

for astronomy!

There is a great big black hole at the center of the galaxy, but I don't see what putting the sun between us and that would do. There's already tens of thousands of light-years and a whole bunch of other stars between here and there.
Electromagnetic radiation is the only thing that could make the trip, and the sun is a far stronger source at this distance.

Oh, wait, I forgot about cosmic-love radiation! If the sun blocks that then we will all die! Nooooooooooooo*cough*ooooooooooo!

Carly, I guess we'll have to wait until 2012 and see. If we're all dead then I will admit that you were right.

 

[Rolls Royce]

Part of the 2012 mystery comes from the stars. On the winter solstice (Dec. 21 2012 I believe), the sun will be aligned with the center of the Milky Way for the first time in about 26,000 years. This means that whatever energy usually streams to Earth from the center of the Milky Way will be disrupted on Dec 21 2012 at 11:11 p.m. U.T. I believe the world will face some sort of major situation\change in 2012 for reasons that are too long and complex to go into here and I do believe that the Mayans were on to something. The Mayan Calendar is not predicting the end of the world in 2012 BTW, just the start of a new era. The reason the Mayan calendar only goes to 2012 is because that's when their calendar ended and they couldn't see past that date, as that's when the old cycle ends and the new begins. Kind of like a car.....On the Winter Solstice in 2012 it will be like the odometer of humanity on Earth hits 100,000 miles and all the cycles big and small turn over to start new. The present world age will end and a new world age will begin. I don't believe the world will end for all of us, but I do believe it "will change as we know it". No one, including Nostradamus, predicted the end of the world, just "the end of the world as we know it." It's essentially the planet realigning itself and starting over.......perhaps a worldwide earthquake that will wipe out most of humanity but still leave some unharmed who will bring in the new cycle......IMHO. (I don't know for sure but if anyone is still around in 2012 and one of the ones left behind, come back and let us all know, those of us left anyway, just what the skinny is. )

Very true, I thought it was interesting how Nostradamus 2012 mentioned the predicted backlash from Mother Earth in the form of hotter summers, stronger winds, hurricanes, etc....almost makes us wonder if Global Warming and Climate Change and all our eco-friendliness is actually not based on human doing but inevitable astronomical undertaking, but that's opening up another can of worms entirely

 

[Rolls Royce]

Hmm..
I think that the word apparently was aptly used here, because it is technically IMPOSSIBLE to have a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse at the same time. You'd need 2 moons to do that!

I heard that the Mayan calendar ends because it measures a particular astronomical cycle ending Dec 21st, 2012, and it's just a cycle that repeats itself.

It certainly is going to be interesting finding out just what happens. If anything, it's a important to be reminded to enjoy every day we have here.... never know when it's going to be your last.

xoxo
Nina

Good point Nina, alot of this interpretation is done from drawings by Nostradamus, and in this particular case there were 3 moons all being eclipsed at the same time? I don't know if that clarifies anything or just confuses the interpretation more so LOL

 

[classycarly]

I find it highly improbable, if not impossible for the two to actually occur at the very same moment in time, since this milky way alignment only happens every 26,000 years. I suppose over billions of years it could happen eventually.

Anyone here any good with math? How many minutes are there in 26,000 years?

oh geez, I got a cool 'units' program in my iPhone..
This occurance would happen ONCE EVERY 13 1/2 BILLION years.. 13,674,960,000 to be exact. More than 3 times the age of our planet.oh geez, I got a cool 'units' program in my iPhone..
This occurance would happen ONCE EVERY 13 1/2 BILLION years.. 13,674,960,000 to be exact. More than 3 times the age of our planet.

There is a hole in my logic though.... Maybe the theory is that this 'center' of the universe is actually something that takes a long time for us to cross and isn't a pinpoint accurate thing. So if it is, and we'll be in this zone for all that time. If so, it makes no sense at all why it would make any difference what stage we are at while we spin around our sun.

This solstice thing is bullcrap. Energy from the middle of the universe however?? Now THIS is interesting. I think of the Van Allen radiation belt that surrounds earth when I think of the galaxies spinning. There is that center hole up at the magnetic north and south poles where you can't use a compass.. the lack and confusion of magnetic energy means compasses don't work.

Maybe my thoughts are wrong because I don't understand what the 'lined up with the center of the milky way really means, but I think it means we are crossing through the axis on which the milky way spins. I'm also assuming that there is some kind of energy field around the galaxies similar to the Van Allen belt. I make a huge stretch, I know, but having never delved into cosmology other than high school science, I'm having fun with this.

Who knows what this energy or lack of energy will do to us.

There is so much we don't know. I do know one thing, though. There is not a damned thing we can do about it. It's going to happen, and being afraid of it won't help any. I wonder, though, why being prepared for some kind of natural disaster wouldn't be a good idea. It could be all for naught, it could be silly, like 'duck and cover' for a nuclear bomb. But you never know, maybe being ready might actually help. Certainly it can't hurt.

If you believe in the Mayans theories at all, then you wouldn't be so quick to shut me down. What I'm talking about comes from the Mayans and what we know of them. The first paragraph below is not me, it is a scientific\astronomical explanation by researchers, scientists and astronomers. (I don't want to take the credit for something I didn't write. )

"The slow process by which the winter solstice sun comes to conjoin the dark-rift in the Milky Way is a function of a phenomenon known as the "precession of the equinoxes." This involves the slow wobbling of the earth's axis, which causes the stellar frame to slowly shift. To observers on earth, it causes the position of the winter solstice sun to slowly move in relation to celestial background features such as the Milky Way. A full cycle is completed in roughly 26,000 years. Approximately 2100 years ago, when the Long Count calendar was devised by the Mayans, the dark-rift in the Milky Way could be observed some 30 degrees above the dawning winter solstice sun. When they discovered precession, they realized that every winter solstice the "cosmic birth canal" was moving closer and closer to the dawning sun. The winter solstice sun was called the First Sun, the First Lord or First Father, because it is the first day of the year, the beginning of the sun's annual rebirth into increasing daylight. They calibrated the process, and fixed their creation mythology to the future alignment as described."


So essentially the Mayans noticed that the winter solstice sun was slowly moving towards the Milky Way. Two great markers in the sky were converging, creating a rare celestial "meeting". Their calendar accurately tells us when this will occur, and it means more than a new solar year. It means the beginning of a new cycle of time, the resetting of the clock so to speak, of precession and maybe a shift in the nature of human consciousness and civilization as we know it. By using an invention called the Long Count, the Mayans fast forwarded to set December 21, 2012 as the end of their cycle and then counted backwards to decide where the calendar would begin. So the cycle we are currently in began on August 11, 3114 BC and ends on Dec. 21 2012. I said the Milky Way alignment happens approx. every 26,000 years, where do you get 13 1\2 billion years from?

God, that was hot!

for astronomy!

There is a great big black hole at the center of the galaxy, but I don't see what putting the sun between us and that would do. There's already tens of thousands of light-years and a whole bunch of other stars between here and there.
Electromagnetic radiation is the only thing that could make the trip, and the sun is a far stronger source at this distance.

Oh, wait, I forgot about cosmic-love radiation! If the sun blocks that then we will all die! Nooooooooooooo*cough*ooooooooooo!

Carly, I guess we'll have to wait until 2012 and see. If we're all dead then I will admit that you were right.

I never said anything about cosmic love radiation???? (WTH is cosmic love radiation anyway)? I also didn't say it was the end of the world and we'd all be dead. (I was careful to say just the opposite actually, "the end of the world as we know it", because I don't believe in "Doomsday" as is described to us the masses by media and corporations out to make money, and I'm not a conspiracy or doomsday theorist at all, so I refuse to see this as all negative). I never said I was right, I said "I didn't know for sure" and "in my opinion", but since you're all so much smarter than me, and you all have the answers go ahead and keep making fun of me and saying that what I have to say is bullcrap. You guys seem to have all the answers so you must have the proof as well right? I thought this was a conversation anyone could join in, but obviously not being in total agreement with some of you is cause and justification for ridicule and sarcastic winks. Nice.......

 

[Restless]

I started to watch, then realized I'd rather stab my self in the eye with a cocktail fork.

I look forward (with one eye) to see what blood curdling prediction of doom from Nostradamus is making the rounds in 2013

 

[InTheBum]

I think that might be the year that Hubba actually posts a review.

Impossible!! Hubba will never let a disgusting, filthy, money hungry woman (or man?) touch his poor, innocent, virgin micropenis!

 

[wess]

Very true, I thought it was interesting how Nostradamus 2012 mentioned the predicted backlash from Mother Earth in the form of hotter summers, stronger winds, hurricanes, etc....almost makes us wonder if Global Warming and Climate Change and all our eco-friendliness is actually not based on human doing but inevitable astronomical undertaking, but that's opening up another can of worms entirely

Hotter summers ? Oh no ! Global warming is bullshit no different then Y2k. Why has the temperature of Mars gone up just as much as earth when there is no cars on Mars ?

 

[Evolve]

I never said anything about cosmic love radiation???? (WTH is cosmic love radiation anyway)? I also didn't say it was the end of the world and we'd all be dead. (I was careful to say just the opposite actually, "the end of the world as we know it", because I don't believe in "Doomsday" as is described to us the masses by media and corporations out to make money, and I'm not a conspiracy or doomsday theorist at all, so I refuse to see this as all negative). I never said I was right, I said "I didn't know for sure" and "in my opinion", but since you're all so much smarter than me, and you all have the answers go ahead and keep making fun of me and saying that what I have to say is bullcrap. You guys seem to have all the answers so you must have the proof as well right? I thought this was a conversation anyone could join in, but obviously not being in total agreement with some of you is cause and justification for ridicule and sarcastic winks. Nice.......

Sorry, it's not you specifically Carly. It's just that there have been too many doomsday predictions to count. It all starts seeming pretty silly after a while.

I just did a quick Google on doomsday predictions and there are a bunch of sites. This guy had a list of some of the recent ones:
http://www.2think.org/hundredsheep/skeptic/predictions.shtml
As you can tell by the link, the author is a skeptic.

2012 will come and go. There might be another market crash, or war, or spike in the price of oil, or Sarah Palin might get sworn into the American presidency, but we're all pretty used to those sort of disasters by now.

There's my prediction!

Hey, you never know! Some of the scientific break-throughs nowadays are a little scary. Maybe we'll get sucked into a black hole or turned into gray goo, or something equally fun.

 

[blazejowski]

THE LEAFS WIN THE CUP!
THE LEAFS WIN THE CUP!!!

*universe implodes*

 

[melissa.in.abby]

maybe a shift in the nature of human consciousness and civilization as we know it.

I like this!



I tend to believe the "everything is right, in one way or another" theory.

I am interested in this subject and, also, I have read a couple articles about different dimensions.

I wish I was smart enough to converse with you all, but I say A+ an this thread.

What is the name of the book on string theory?

 

[FunSugarDaddy]

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I tend to believe the "everything is right, in one way or another" theory.

I am interested in this subject and, also, I have read a couple articles about different dimensions.

I wish I was smart enough to converse with you all, but I say A+ an this thread.

What is the name of the book on string theory?

The name of the book is called "The cosmic Landscape" , String theory and the illusion of intelligent design. By Leonard Susskind.

The funny thing is for about a 100 years they were looking for a single theory that would explain everything.

But as it turns out if this theory is true, and there's very strong evidence to believe it is, it actually results in there not being a single theory to explain things at all, as there is too much randomness for this to work. (actually it's a derivative of string theory called M-theory) that's in vogue at the moment.

It also turns out that for this theory to work and explain as much as it does, there are 11 dimensions to our universe, rather than 3.

And apparently Stephen Hawkins was wrong about a number of things but he did discover something called Hawkin's radiation, which is essentially energy which is radiated from a black hole.

Tell you one thing, with having only high school physics they discuss a hellva lot of complex issues. I took this book out of the library after watching "the theory of everything" on channel 42.

The sad thing is this is the author claims it's a book for layman. (guess it is in the sense that there's very little math to back up the concepts mentioned)

But when they're dealing with concepts such as Anthropic Principal, Anti-particles, Bosons, Calabi Yau space, compactification, cosmological constants, D-brane, Higgs bosons, quarks, quantum jitters, neutrionos, Z-bosons, and a host of other concepts its quite mind-boggling what they know and if I don't spend a lot of time digesting this stuff, it goes over my head. It might be a book, but it's more like an advanced course in physics & cosmotology.

One of the more interesting concepts of the book is that they believe the universe is essentially part of a much bigger landscape and that there are about 10 to the power of 500 valleys out there and that we are iin fact in such a valley and that this allows for such low probably of facts to occur necessary to sustain life. The shear number of factors that have to be just right, for us to exist in this extremely harsh universe is amazing, so much so that a higher power or supreme being actually made sense until this theory was presented, because most Physicists couldn't fathom how else we could exist.

 

[mick_eight]

I like this!



I tend to believe the "everything is right, in one way or another" theory.

I am interested in this subject and, also, I have read a couple articles about different dimensions.

I wish I was smart enough to converse with you all, but I say A+ an this thread.

What is the name of the book on string theory?

I don't know what book he is talking about , but here is one about the subject. It's a deep read but will open your eyes and mind on the wonder of science. ''Fabric of Reality '' David Deutsch... .

 

[melissa.in.abby]

I am going to get both those books - thanks!

I love to read - but I don't want to waste my time reading things that are pointless