Is this kind of guy worth it to you, SPs?

[lenny]

slightly disgusted by the way you view sp's but to each their own.

I wasn't aware that i was expressing a view re SP's {Service Providers}.

To me the quote had to do with how i can have the most pleasurable
time with one.

Evidently that would not be with some in this thread ;

Yet they still feel compelled to post in my thread ;

Hurt feelings for some reason beyond me, i guess.

 

[lenny]

I enjoy human connection, finding common ground, laughing and sexy talk..

I've enjoyed some of this at times with an SP too. Much more often than not,
though, conversation subtracts from my enjoyment of the session. This is
especially the case when the lady spends half the time chatting & leaves
me feeling robbed, e.g. Sakura. Obviously i don't repeat with her type.

though certainly I've had quieter sessions, I like to get to know the person I'm pleasuring on a cerebral level as well as physical..

To each their own. My preference is for SPs {Service Providers} who
provide service to my little head and leave the big head alone. Guys
can't run both at the same time, anyway ;

 

[lenny]

Assuming you choose well, I am sure your provider will live up to her end of the bargain.. she will want her regular client coming back, don't you think?

I would think so, if she doesn't want a bad review, but shit happens.

Do you think there would be any girl out there who would give you a free session first and wait to get paid in full the next 2 sessions?

No, not that i was suggesting that.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I had a really long reply typed out, then I decided, if I didn't have anything nice to say, I shouldn't say anything, at all.

 

[lenny]

I had a really long reply typed out, then I decided, if I didn't have anything nice to say, I shouldn't say anything, at all.

In that case, let me take this opportunity to chat some more, since i
obviously enjoy doing that, on a SP's time, & not when she is charging
me for it ; And since the little head is not engaged at the moment ;

SP's certainly have the right to choose customers that are to their
liking, just as we are free to choose SP's that meet our needs and
make us happy.

If i were an SP i'd probably like to chat & otherwise use up as much
time of a session as possible, to lessen the amount of time that i'd
have to be physicly engaged with a guy who is likely unattractive
to me, to say the least.

 

[Mona_Ramone]

isn't it nice how much diversity exists in the world? there are clients who think that any chit-chat at all is an attempt to subtract time from the main event, and others who would be completely appalled by an sp just showing up, ripping off her clothes and reaching for the lube without a 'hello.'

ponder, as well, that not all attraction is physical. i am often more interested in fucking someone with whom i have an intellectual connection than i am in male-bimbos with chiseled abs and nothing at all to say (beyond how many crunches he's done today.)

just sayin'.

 

[HB40]

Misogyny is based on the assumption that women are bad, conniving, and evil... and if you think you'd be this way as a provider, well then it is only logical to see you as a woman hater.

xoxo
Nina

I agree, and think it is also only reasonable to see him like that based on his posts.

For a guy who is trying to appeal to the SP's sense of value for a preferred client he sure isn't doing much for his case.

 

[wiggely]

I agree

isn't it nice how much diversity exists in the world? there are clients who think that any chit-chat at all is an attempt to subtract time from the main event, and others who would be completely appalled by an sp just showing up, ripping off her clothes and reaching for the lube without a 'hello.'

ponder, as well, that not all attraction is physical. i am often more interested in fucking someone with whom i have an intellectual connection
'.

agreed totally if there is no intellectual connection I am not interested in fucking the SP, The intellectual connection is what leads me to want to be intimate, caress,cuddle, kiss and fuck a woman, it drives the sexual juices.
just my 2 cents worth.

 

[lenny]

Misogyny is based on the assumption that women are bad, conniving, and evil... and if you think you'd be this way as a provider, well then it is only logical to see you as a woman hater.

That may be the most twisted excuse for "logic" that i've ever seen ;
Your conclusion simply does not follow from your premises.

Furthermore what i'd "like" to do {if i were an SP} and what i'd actually
do may be two entirely different things. You mean you wouldn't rather
have a session only talking to a very unattractive man? If you deny
that i'd have to say, who are you trying to fool? Does it make you "evil"
that that is what you'ld "like" to do, rather than have sex with him?

Do you deny that there are women SP's out there who would "like"
to chat away a whole session rather than fuck?

Bottom line. Your comment is ridiculous. And school is out ;

 

[lenny]

For a guy who is trying to appeal to the SP's sense of value for a preferred client he sure isn't doing much for his case.

Do i look worried? ;

I'd say 99% of SP's i've been with like me.

Reference posts 4 & 38, this thread.

 

[HB40]

I'd say 99% of SP's i've been with like me.

Well if YOU say so.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Roar!!!! You tell him Sexy Nina Leone.

That is a much nicer version than the one I wanted to say!

 

[lenny]

But Bottom line is, schoolboy, not all people think or behave like you.

Sure about that ; If that is your bottom line, then i feel no need to
respond to the rest of your post. Nevertheless, i'll make one exception...

Looks has nothing to do with sex for those that know what real sex is about.

Got that?

Oh yeah. And, really? ;

P.S. This is a good thread for guys discovering what SP's not to see.
I hope some more SP's will pipe in with comments like yours. Carry on ;

 

[Harmony-bc]

Sure about that ; If that is your bottom line, then i feel no need to
respond to the rest of your post. Nevertheless, i'll make one exception...




Oh yeah. And, really? ;

P.S. This is a good thread for guys discovering what SP's not to see.
I hope some more SP's will pipe in with comments like yours. Carry on ;

Also a great thread for us to see which kind of guy, who's pms we might want to ignore.

 

[overdone]

I'd say 99% of SP's i've been with like me.

How can you tell, I thought most don't speak English and the rest you tell to be quiet and get busy.

But, on second thought, i already have 2 hot ladies who've agreed
to 2 hour sessions for $200, tho' am curious as to responses here.

So what are their names?

 

[Smoothmover]

I have to agree with lenny here

When i see an SP I am not looking for conversation. If I want to talk and have a connection, I will get a girlfriend, and if I don't want a girlfriend for emotional reasons, I'll get a booty call. You can troll plenty of fish and find some single mom, who'd be more than happy to have you come over after 9pm when the kid is in bed and have you gone by 11 so she can get a full nights sleep. You have a little BS conversation and then hit the sack

When i see an SP, I want to fuck. thats it. I want a professional BJ and to fuck a hot woman with a reputation for being good at it. I don't want to kiss, I don't want to DATY, I don't want to cuddle, I don't want to any of it

An absolutely perfect session for me would be as i walk in the door, the sp takes my envelope, proceeds to take her clothes off and gets down onto her knees and blows me. When I'm done with the BJ, if i've cum, she could put on a toy show until i'm ready for round 2, if not, she could just bend over the nearest object and let me have at 'er.

What I'm paying for is some sex. good old fashioned sex for me, to get me off and take care of my needs. With my booty calls, I have to talk to make sure we get along, I'll kiss and DATY because thats what their in to, and I have to make sure they have a good time too, or that "well" will dry up. When i pay for it I should get it exactly as I want it

Theres a strange disconnect with some of the SP's that have posted in this thread and some I have contacted over the years as I am very honest in what I am looking for in my sessions.

They need to talk and find a "connection" and kiss and cuddle, etc and I wonder if this is some form of escapism. Are they telling themselves they are not exchanging sex for money? Are they, in their own mind, telling themselves they are simply "hooking up" and it just happens to have a financial benefit? A question for you - If a customer shown up for an appointment and there is no "connection" (I don't mean he's being rude or an ass, just no "connection") do you give him his money back, or do you soldier on through the session?

When I am paying for it, I am paying to "rent" your body. Lets not beat aroung the bush here. You have your list of services, I select from the list, you perform said services on me, or allow me access to your pussy/mouth/ass for money. If I wanted more, I'd go out and get the "more" and I wouldn't have to pay for it. What I am paying for it all that I want, with out the effort of having to get to "know" the SP. A recent pic will do just fine

just my thoughts, and I don't think lenny and I are alone

 

[Thais]

Theres a strange disconnect with some of the SP's that have posted in this thread and some I have contacted over the years as I am very honest in what I am looking for in my sessions.

They need to talk and find a "connection" and kiss and cuddle, etc and I wonder if this is some form of escapism. Are they telling themselves they are not exchanging sex for money? Are they, in their own mind, telling themselves they are simply "hooking up" and it just happens to have a financial benefit? A question for you - If a customer shown up for an appointment and there is no "connection" (I don't mean he's being rude or an ass, just no "connection") do you give him his money back, or do you soldier on through the session?

Perhaps, it could be that you are calling GFE escorts, and may be, you will be better off avoiding them? Of course, I don't know so this is just a suggestion. It's great that you are being direct and honest, but what they and you see as an enjoyable experience are very different. I would suspect that you are not likely to get a really good experience from a woman who prefers to provide GFE, simply because your approach would turn her off. On the other hand, if she doesn't like your approach, she should be the one turning your down. For example, if you contacted me and explained your needs, I simply would not see you. I can only wordlessly fuck someone I already know and click with.

As for connection, kissing and cuddling... That's what a lot of clients want, and that's what a lot of them pay premium for. I used to see the same SPs offering a simple full service sessions for one rate, and GFE at a premium. Especially at MPs: full service for $250, GFE for $300. Would they do that if not for greater demand?

It also happens to make the experience a lot more enjoyable for many of us. Perception is reality. Many people want connection simply because for them, it makes things more intense, more interesting, and provides a more satisfying experience overall. It has nothing to do with paying for sex or not - but with quality and fulfillment of time you spend together. For some people anyway... Besides, many SPs who are good at building connection, do get a number of multiple-hour, dinner date and similar requests.

So if you don't understand something, don't assume that everybody else thinks the same way.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I am a flexible sp. Its just Lenny's attitude I don't like. He comes across rude, and condescending. I know I sell sex for money. There is no confusion here.

I would still need 5-10 minutes of conversation, though, to feel you out, and relax, decide you're not a serial killer, etc.

 

[lenny]

How can you tell, I thought most don't speak English

I think they all speak at least a little bit of English. And a person can like
another person in many ways w/o there being a word spoken.

and the rest you tell to be quiet and get busy.

No, i don't talk like that {rudely} to them. They usually know what i want
before the session starts, so it's up to them if they agree and go with
me for that purpose or not.

So what are their names?

That would be classified information. Nice try, though ;

 

[Smoothmover]

Perhaps, it could be that you are calling GFE escorts, and may be, you will be better off avoiding them? Of course, I don't know so this is just a suggestion. It's great that you are being direct and honest, but what they and you see as an enjoyable experience are very different. I would suspect that you are not likely to get a really good experience from a woman who prefers to provide GFE, simply because your approach would turn her off. On the other hand, if she doesn't like your approach, she should be the one turning your down. For example, if you contacted me and explained your needs, I simply would not see you.

As for connection, kissing and cuddling... That's what a lot of clients want, and that's what a lot of them pay premium for. I used to see the same SPs offering a simple full service sessions for one rate, and GFE at a premium. Especially at MPs: full service for $250, GFE for $300. Would they do that if not for greater demand?

It also happens to make the experience a lot more enjoyable for many of us. Perception is reality. Many people want connection simply because for them, it makes things more intense, more interesting, and provides a more satisfying experience overall. It has nothing to do with paying for sex or not - but with quality and fulfillment of time you spend together. Besides, many SPs who are good at building connection, do get a number of multiple-hour, dinner date and similar requests.

So if you don't understand something, don't assume that everybody else thinks the same way.

As you pointed out, at times GFE is an "extra" but even when it is not a GFE is seen much like any other service (BBBJ, Greek, MSOG, etc) If I choose not to partake in the GFE, Greek, MSOG, etc then as the client, that should be my choosing. It seems as though I am paying the money, I am also expected to provide some sort of "boyfriend experience" and since I am the one paying the money, Lenny, myself, or others shouldn't be judged on the fact that we are not interested in receiving a GFE or providing a Boyfriend experience.

The issue of multiple hour "dinner date" is something I would never consider at the rates that are charged. As you say "many SPs who are good at building connection, do get a number of multiple-hour, dinner date and similar requests" and that goes to lenny's point about wanting to "chat" the session away. If an SP charges $250 and hour to fuck and $800 for a 4 hour dinner date session, thats ridiculous in my opinion. It would make me feel like such a loser that I would pay $250 for a girl to fuck me for an hour and $550 for her just to spend 3 hours talking with me, and I'd probably have to pay for the dinner too. No judgement on the guys who do this and I'm sure theres a market for it or it wouldn't happen, but I would never even consider it at those prices. I have no problem with compensating an SP for her time, but if I'm paying "fucking" wages, there better be a lot of "fucking" going on if the clock is running. I find it difficult to accept the rate for chat is only slightly cheaper that the rate to fuck.

I'm not the one assuming everyone else thinks the same way. The SP's and posters that posted on this thread seemed astonished that guys like lenny only wanted to "fuck" and that there was something wrong with it. I was just pointing out that theres plenty of guys who will pay for the GFE just like theres plenty of guys who will pay for Greek, COF, Duo's etc. I happen to be one that isn't paying for the GFE. I find it completely unneccesary, and I'm not at all into it, much like others find Greek, Cof unneccesary