Mats Sundin or Mike Cammalleri?

[BJhunter]

to that Canucklehead who was wondering who else we could've gotten, well, how about this to munch on....as well as for HotAss from Winnipeg who's still trying to convince us that Gaborik's coming here to join Demitra here....


Who would the Nuckleheads rather have:

Sundin's (38 yrs) $5 mill versus Cammalleri's (26 yrs.) $3.6 million, who's going to be available after this season.

Not that we could've ever pried him away from a division rival mid-season, but just the comparison shows that Sundin is way, way over-priced.

Just b/c we have the cap room doesn't mean we can flush it down the toilet. Even Bill Guerin, who waved his no-trade clause, is someone that would've helped the Nucks w/ his playoff experience. Besides, he wouldn't come to this circus anyways.

 

[2good4you]

Don't you ever shut up?

Another well thought out post BJHunter.

First off, Calgary got Cammalleri by trading their first round pick for him last year while the Nucks gave up nothing for Sundin.

Second, Cammalleri is injury prone having concussion issues in the past making him riskier than Sundin where there literally was no down side.

Third, with the year Cammalleri has had this year he will probably get $5M - $6M next year anyways so how is this relevant?

If you're going to start playing this game, then the Canucks could have drafted Mario Lemieux, Ryan Getzlaf, and Henrik Zetterberg. Unfortunately, there is no crystal ball and every team does not always get the best player. Deal with that.

Last time I checked, Sundin was coming off a 78 point season where Cammalleri was coming off a 47 point season. I know you think you're gods gift to hockey analysts but do your research. Sundin is the proven better player. Not to mention Cammalleri is playing with Iginla on a team that has no second line so someone has to score.

Fuck you are dumb.

 

[bcneil]

Third, with the year Cammalleri has had this year he will probably get $5M - $6M next year anyways so how is this relevant?

Thats what I was thinking when I read this.....$3.6 million next year???? I wouldn't count on that BJH.

Most likely it will end up with him leaving Calgary at the end of the season.
So Calgary will have given up a number 1 pick, for a player that plays for them one year.

 

[teejay69]

Unlike the Canucks - Calgary had enough depth to trade for him as well as their deadline deals this year. Hopefully - things will change with Gillis and their drafting of Hodgson.

Sundin was paid first line SuperStar money. While his play is improving and his presence has helped the first line - he is still making 4th line mistakes with the dumb penalties (i.e. out of shape - too slow - caught out of position). Hopefully - it will improve by the time the playoffs start.

The thinking for next year should be to look for decent second line players to take the pressure off and to compliment Demitra and Kesler (assuming Sundin does not come back). We need someone who can play both special teams and maybe that might be Gaborik or Cammalleri or someone else. Who knows as it depends on what happens with the Sedins.

In terms of value for money - that is no contest as Burrows beats them all hands down (then Kesler, Sedins, Cammalleri)

 

[simplycurious]

I agree, there is no crystal ball and the biggest thing to keep in mind is that the Nucks gave up NOTHING for Sundin. All they did was spend money and thankfully the owners are committed to buying and improving on the team. It would be a whole different story if they had to trade players or draft picks to land Sundin. For the next little while this team just doesn't have enough depth to go wheeling and dealing. If they have the cap space and are willing to spend, props to them to go after the best that is available. At the time, there was no one better that the Canucks could have bought.

 

[Arrrg]

Just b/c we have the cap room doesn't mean we can flush it down the toilet. Even Bill Guerin, who waved his no-trade clause, is someone that would've helped the Nucks w/ his playoff experience. Besides, he wouldn't come to this circus anyways.

man, you are those idiot canuck fans that call in on the radio BJH, they must've blocked your phone number so that's why your throwing up your shit here.

You still haven't given ONE real alternative we *could* have got instead of Sundin that would've helped our team as much or more. Key words REAL ALTERNATIVE

 

[ZeroX]

Just b/c we have the cap room doesn't mean we can flush it down the toilet.

How exactly are we flushing our cap down when we signed Sundin for ONE year?

Even Bill Guerin, who waved his no-trade clause, is someone that would've helped the Nucks w/ his playoff experience.

Remember when the Sharks acquired Bill Guerin two seasons ago? Remember how he was a bust and did nothing in the playoffs? And you want him here?

And to answer your original question, I'd take Sundin over Camalleri right now. Number one, Sundin is a vet with playoff experience unlike Cammalleri who has never played in the postseason. Secondly, Cammalleri is too small for my liking but we'll see how he does in the playoffs.

 

[Qtip]

All signs were pointing to Cammalleri coming to Vancouver next season because he is a former client of Gillis and we have the cap room. I think Cammalleri will get 5-6 million on the open market come July 1st. He will then be overpaid and I think the Canucks by the end of this season will be done with overpaying free agents ( ie. Sudin ).

 

[BJhunter]

How exactly are we flushing our cap down when we signed Sundin for ONE year?




Remember when the Sharks acquired Bill Guerin two seasons ago? Remember how he was a bust and did nothing in the playoffs? And you want him here?

And to answer your original question, I'd take Sundin over Camalleri right now. Number one, Sundin is a vet with playoff experience unlike Cammalleri who has never played in the postseason. Secondly, Cammalleri is too small for my liking but we'll see how he does in the playoffs.

of course you'll take Sundin, you're a bandwagon, no surprise there.

go check bill Guerin's stats and how hot both him and the Pens have been since the trading deadline. Without embarrassing you as it is, also check the players that moved during the deadline when the Nucks, along w/ their bandwagon fans, didn't want to disrupt their lucky winning streak and did nothing.

Remember, this ain't an organization that has had any luck during the deadlines, like that idiotic hometown burnaby boy Nonis, who traded away, what 7 draft picks and half dozen players that are no longer with the Nucks. Yup, that's how jinxed we are.

And having bandwagons like yourself don't help either.

So if Sundin has this so-called 'playoff experience', do you remember when? it's been 5 years since he's played a playoff game, so guess it's all relative: sundin sure looks good compared to his Swedish meatballs compatriots, the sisters sure don't know how to win or have what it takes in the playoffs; is that a breath of fresh air? lol

 

[BJhunter]

You should be banned from using the term "bandwagon", because you clearly don't know what the meaning of the term is when used in the context of being a fan.

but let me ask you this: do you know the difference between a bandwagon, Canucklehead, and Knucklehead?

 

[owz]

BJH...YOU'RE THE BANDWAGON FAN...if not just a troll.

You clearly have jumped off the Canucks bandwagon to the point where you have obsessed to trolling their real fans.

Why do you obsess with this constant trolling? Why do you feel this need to drag Canucks fans down? Why do you feel it is so important to take any pleasure that Canuck fan may be deriving from following their team, and try to make them miserable?

And you post thread after thread after thread after thread. Its beyond idiotic. You come across as borderline insane.

You continously post drivel just for the sake of annoyance and to hear your own voice. Your insight on the topic is useless. You hardly ever add anything...never mind that there's no hope that you could possibly provide balance in your thoughts.

Your obsession is unhealthy. You really should find other things to think about. This is almost as obsessive as your constant, juvenile and abrasive need to ask the question "does she suck good cock" after each and every thread enquiring about an sp.

Grow up buddy.

Good post. Pretty much sums up his contribution to this board...

 

[DaBoneman]

And you post thread after thread after thread after thread. Its beyond idiotic. You come across as borderline insane.

You've just come to this conclusion. Remember this is the same guy with literally thousands of posts asking 'does she suck good cock?'.

 

[DaBoneman]

LOL!! You didn't read the last two lines in my post.

My Bad!

 

[ZeroX]

of course you'll take Sundin, you're a bandwagon, no surprise there.

go check bill Guerin's stats and how hot both him and the Pens have been since the trading deadline.

And the Canucks have been just about as hot as the Pens too.

Without embarrassing you as it is, also check the players that moved during the deadline

Get it through your head. Gillis didn't find a deal that made sense. Period.

And even though Canucks did nothing at the deadline they are still one of the hottest teams in the NHL.

Nucks, along w/ their bandwagon fans, didn't want to disrupt their lucky winning streak and did nothing.

Yes, because playing two months of solid hockey and compiling an 18-5-1 record is all based on luck, right?

*facepalms*

lrn2hockey pls.

Remember, this ain't an organization that has had any luck during the deadlines, like that idiotic hometown burnaby boy Nonis, who traded away, what 7 draft picks and half dozen players that are no longer with the Nucks. Yup, that's how jinxed we are.

EXACTLY. Even more reason for Gillis to not do anything at the deadline.

Thanks for proving that Gillis did the right thing.

And having bandwagons like yourself don't help either.

*facepalms*

In this thread: BJHunter still doesn't understand what the term bandwagon fan means.


Yeah, I'm a bandwagon fan even though I've been supporting this team for 15+ years even during the dark times. Right?

Not once have I jumped off the bandwagon and abandoned this team and yet I'm somehow a "bandwagoner" according to you.

If anything YOU are the bandwagoner here. You are obviously not on board with this team and you probably won't be for a long time. Let us know when you finally jump into the bandwagon so that we can remind you the bandwagon fan that you are. Thx.

 

[Shybutniceguy]

but let me ask you this: do you know the difference between a bandwagon, Canucklehead, and Knucklehead?

Let me ask you this, do you know the difference between a jackass, a moron, an idiot and a BJhunter?? Exactly, there is no difference. Good job.

 

[2good4you]

Bwahahahahaha!!!!

This is my favorite thread. Never close it. All the BJH haters have come together. I love how he just skipped over responding to any of the posts that made good points. Well done buddy!!! Well done!!!

 

[2good4you]

Errr......nevee mind.....

This one is 10 times better!!!!

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=105513

 

[lucky85]

Sundin and his experience and leadership >>> Camalleri