SP-Client Relations

[theapple_eve8]

I see clients complaining of WOTS, rip-offs, nasty attitudes, and unmet expectations.

I see SPs complaining about clients with bad breath, poor manners, aggressive behavior, and downright psycho behavior.

I don't think it has to be this way. True we may have little control over SGs or guys who walk in off the street, but surely we can maintain an extensive network of civilized contacts.

Here are some things I see leading to problems:

1) Guys trying to use SPs out of their price range. This is dumb to me, it just leads to high of expectations and the guy has too much on the line since it's way over his budget. Why put everyone in this tense situation?

2) SPs not making sure the guy understands what he may or may not receive during a session. This is a sure way to lead to disappointment. It's better to go over some basic ground rules before money changes hands and the guy feels obligated to try and make the best of it. At the same time I think clients need to be realistic and understand everyone has moments when something just doesn't feel right.

3) Clients stinking to high heaven. Please brush teeth, wear deorderant, be well groomed, and keep oneself in descent shape. My gosh, just because one is paying doesn't mean he can throw hygeine out the window or scratch someone senseless with stubble. Nice shoes and clean clothes I'm sure would be appreciated too. O, and I don't think long, stringy, greesy hair is appreciated either.

4) Stop posting things about the smells of a woman's crotch. This is just downright insensitive, IMO. I would never consider including such info in a review. There are bacteria, PH balance, and lots of reasons that smells can very.

5) It is all of our duty to help get dangerous clients off the street. If one hears or knows someone is harrassing, attacking, or trying to intimidate SPs, let's find someone reliable at the local PD who will actually do something about it.

6) Ripoff SPs create angry clients and make things worse for legitimate SPs and really everyone. We need to keep getting the word out on these people until there is nowhere left for them to go in the area.

Just my .02, Im sure I made some people mad, but I think there's a lot of truth in my statements.

 

[Avery]

3) Clients stinking to high heaven. Please brush teeth, wear deorderant, be well groomed, and keep oneself in descent shape. My gosh, just because one is paying doesn't mean he can throw hygeine out the window or scratch someone senseless with stubble. Nice shoes and clean clothes I'm sure would be appreciated too. O, and I don't think long, stringy, greesy hair is appreciated either.

Agreed, but...

4) Stop posting things about the smells of a woman's crotch. This is just downright insensitive, IMO. I would never consider including such info in a review. There are bacteria, PH balance, and lots of reasons that smells can very.

SPs have just as much of an obligation as the clients to ensure their personal hygiene is impeccable. If a client pays $200 to $300 per hour for a lady's company and is grossed out by the smell of her crotch, possibly to the point he can't perform, why shouldn't he mention it in a review? He has a right to feel cheated. Yes, women's natural scents do vary, but there's no excuse for a stinky cookie. In 99 per cent of the cases, a little soap and water before the encounter cures the problem. If an escort can't be bothered to wash, or has so little regard for her clients that she doesn't care if she stinks "down there", she deserves to be exposed.

Fortunately, I've had very few encounters with unhygenic escorts over the years, but when I have, I haven't been afraid to mention it on the boards.

One last thing - both the ladies and their clients should also make sure to have clean asses. A sweet smelling crotch does not compensate for a stinky bunghole, especially when doing 69 or doggy style.

 

[alyb]

Or better yet...

if a womans crotch has that "not to satisfying" smell.... ask yourself why you choose to see such a busy SP that probably has 5-7 condoms going in there that day....

seriously. guys that complain about a womans tightness, scent, etc... but choose to be client number 5... seriously have less of a chance, IMO, that they're going to get her at her ummm...for lack of a better word...best. unless of course she's a goddess with the PC muscles that dreams are made of.

its really not rocket science! but i agree with everything this poster said. thank you thank you thank you!

 

[wpgguy]

I definitely agree with you there Avery. Offering accompanied showers and a soak in the tub is always a good idea...I always have a basket of clean face cloths, plenty of clean soaps, and body wash to make sure they are extra squeaky clean.

You defiantly have the cleanest, most well stocked incall I've seen.

 

[Bobo The Rabbit]

I think the girls and guys who post on PERB are well aware of these issues, its the SPs and guys who dont post who are the ones who offend.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

sorry, had to add my 2cents here...

About douching............


Never have and never will!

If some of you are prone to yeast infections or using it to mask an unusual odor, douching is most probably NOT the way to go!....




Douching

The vagina is a self-cleaning organ, and as such, does not need "washing." In fact, regular douching can be harmful because it creates an upset in the normal vaginal Ph. In a healthy vagina, douching can actually cause a yeast infection!

Manufacturers of douches, deodorants, scented tampons, soaps and perfumes would have us believe the vagina is dirty. In order to sell their products they must make us believe women's bodies are naturally unclean and have unpleasant odors. However, a healthy vagina has a pleasant, lightly musky odor and chemicals like these can mask changes in that odor which may signal an infection. These chemicals can also be harmful, by irritating the skin, mucous membrane, and Ph balance of the vagina.


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Is Douching Healthy?

Simply stated, the answer is "No."
According to a study published by the American Journal of Public Health, douching may reduce a woman's chance of becoming pregnant during a particular month by approximately thirty percent.

Regular vaginal douching changes the delicate chemical balance of the vagina and can make a woman more susceptible to infections. Douching can introduce new bacteria into the vagina which can spread up through the cervix, uterus, and fallopian tubes. Researchers have found that women who douche regularly experience more vaginal irritations and infections such as bacterial vaginosis, and an increased number of sexually transmitted diseases.

Furthermore, regular users of vaginal douches face a 73% greater risk of developing pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) -- a chronic condition that can lead to infertility, or even death, if left untreated. Bacterial vaginosis and PID can have serious adverse affects on pregnancy including infections in the baby, labor problems, and preterm delivery.

Women who have an unusual vaginal odor need to see their clinician for proper diagnosis, using a douche may only intensify the problem.



For these reasons, douching is no longer recommended as a safe or healthy way to routinely clean the vagina. The only safe and healthy way to clean the vagina is to let the vagina clean itself. The delicate chemical balance of the vagina is very sensitive and easily disrupted by routine vaginal douching.


How does the vagina clean itself?

The vagina cleans itself naturally with its own mucous secretions. When bathing or showering use warm water and gentle unscented soap to cleanse the outer areas of the vagina. Feminine hygiene products such as soaps, powders, and sprays are not necessary and may lead to irritation of sensitive tissues.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

My Dear Miss Bijou.
I found that to be very inconsiderate of you. It may be a good deed to warning others about douching, but sub-consciously what are you trying to insinuate here?...I'm not to pleased with that.

Keep in mind that what everyone reads on this site, might mean something else and more to them.

Yes...Douching is not for everyone (Although, if it is eco-brand/eco-friendly products like creating your own batch - white vingar & pure water - then that should be fine). But I wouldn't recommend it if you are going through a yeast infection.

For those who are prone to yeast infections, here are a few other possible causes:
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Dear Miss MidniteAppletre & MidniteAppletre's fine cookie


errr.....
The topic was re SP's with a stinky cookie (love the expression btw )... And although what anyone puts up their cookie is of no concern to me, I was simply adding my 2 cents because your comment (eventhough I'm sure may have not been intentionally meant it that way) might have been perceived by some less knowledgeable girls dealing with a stinky cookie, as a solution to the stink factor.. which I think we can both agree it is not.


As far as I know, I don't think I was consciously or sub-consciously insinuating anything aside from exactly what I wrote:

If some of you are prone to yeast infections or using it to mask an unusual odor, douching is most probably NOT the way to go!....

And that's about the extent of my insinuations.. Sorry you misunderstood my intentions.. I was not making any insinuations about your cookie. Unfortunately, I have never had the pleasure of meeting your cookie ..yet?.. lol.. but I have no doubt that it's a fine fine cookie.



My opinion is still that douching isn't necessary or even good for you and that it in fact could be riskier BUT that is personal to me and as I said, what anyone decides to put up their cookie is entirely up to them and I can respect that .. however, and I'm sure you can agree, there are always two sides with risks and benifits to everything.. which is what I was trying to add to the thread.



Again, my sincere apologies to you and your cookie if it came across as judgement - it certainly was not meant that way. Now, can my cookie play with your cookie?


And I do think that adding the list of other factors was a kick ass idea. Great valuable info, for sure.


Bijou

 

[the_shogun]

this is a good thread. i'm happy that people can discuss thing in a civilized manner. the poster brought up some very good points and we as a COMMUNITY should take note of things that can benefit ourselves and each other

 

[CalgaryJenn]

In 99 per cent of the cases, a little soap and water before the encounter cures the problem. If an escort can't be bothered to wash, or has so little regard for her clients that she doesn't care if she stinks "down there", she deserves to be exposed.

Agreed!!!
Hint, some soaps can make the musky smell of a male or female worse. Something like Ivory, if just used as a quick wash, can actually bring out the smell. I don't know if anybody else has noticed this. A wash with Ivory has to be a very good wash. Mind you, I don't know why anybody would use Ivory. It smells aweful. Most hotel and motel soaps are foul. The Delta Hotels use a really nice soap in their rooms. But for the most part, hotel soap is nasty and smells like a brick of... well I don't know. But it smells bad.

For the better part, I don't find that there is a problem with the smell of a client. Myself, I make it a rule to be clean, teeth brushed, mouthwashed etc etc... It's only good practice for both me and for my clients. It's only fair that it works both ways.
I think another good rule of thumb was mentioned earlier. Know what your doing and getting involved in. When you know, don't push for more or overstep those boundries. On the same note, the SP shouldn't try to get away with less than agreed upon.
These seem to be 2 of the biggest complaints from both SP's and pooners. Live by that, and the sessions should run more smoothly and be a lot more fun for both parties involved.

And remember, if your nervous, odds are the SP will pick up on it and possibly become nervous as well. We have all heard of "sketchy" SP's and "sketchy" pooners. Try to relax and enjoy. Be respectful to each other.
Bottem line, RESPECT! Right from the inital phone call, to the moment you both say goodbye and go your seperate ways. Mutual RESPECT!
When I get a phone call, and it starts off, "I have $XXX what will that get me?" I hang up. It's hardly respectful.

For the record Avery, you are a treat and always a pleasure! Probably one of the most respectful and gentlemanly << is that a word? men I have met.