Question from Newbie Starting Out

[hogger]

Thanks so much for this mention!! Xox

I have raised my age limit recently, so unfortunately it won’t be me, but I do hope OP will find someone nice for his first encounter! Xo


Direct message to OP now: I wouldn’t normally bother saying anything but since I was mentioned, I will take this as an invitation to add my two cents. 😝
As a reputable independent service provider I wanted to say, I’m a little disappointed by all the people here advising you not to send a deposit. I understand there is risk for bad experiences on the clients end but as long as you do your homework about the provider you see (as suggested many times in the thread), There is nothing wrong with sending a deposit.

Firstly, It’s respectful of her time and makes her feel confident and assured in her booking with you! If you want an enthusiastic provider who shows you a good time, making her feel respected, safe and happy isn’t a bad idea…

Secondly, it is not a scam, it’s a method of screening we use to protect ourselves. As reputable providers our reputations are worth a lot more than the 50$ we may ask you for, for a deposit. Our livelihoods depend on our reputations so it’s not worth the risk to scam someone over 50$. Hope that makes sense..

I personally DON’T require screening for myself in less I get the feeling it’s necessary. I DO require it when I’m doing phones at The Playhouse and booking for someone aside from myself, in my cooperative,
A) cause it’s standard,

but also B) because I don’t feel like it’s fair to depend on my intuition when it’s not my safety I’m risking.

Think about it this way, the risk on your end of sending a deposit is that you might lose 50$. The risk for a provider who doesn’t screen…. ?? Well I hope I don’t have to explain how badly that can go for us..

Ok spiel over! If you got this far, thanks for reading. Cheers 🥂 ✌🏼🫡

Your comments make a lot of sense!

 

[G-Rob]

Thanks so much for this mention!! Xox

I have raised my age limit recently, so unfortunately it won’t be me, but I do hope OP will find someone nice for his first encounter! Xo


Direct message to OP now: I wouldn’t normally bother saying anything but since I was mentioned, I will take this as an invitation to add my two cents. 😝
As a reputable independent service provider I wanted to say, I’m a little disappointed by all the people here advising you not to send a deposit. I understand there is risk for bad experiences on the clients end but as long as you do your homework about the provider you see (as suggested many times in the thread), There is nothing wrong with sending a deposit.

Firstly, It’s respectful of her time and makes her feel confident and assured in her booking with you! If you want an enthusiastic provider who shows you a good time, making her feel respected, safe and happy isn’t a bad idea…

Secondly, it is not a scam, it’s a method of screening we use to protect ourselves. As reputable providers our reputations are worth a lot more than the 50$ we may ask you for, for a deposit. Our livelihoods depend on our reputations so it’s not worth the risk to scam someone over 50$. Hope that makes sense..

I personally DON’T require screening for myself in less I get the feeling it’s necessary. I DO require it when I’m doing phones at The Playhouse and booking for someone aside from myself, in my cooperative,
A) cause it’s standard,

but also B) because I don’t feel like it’s fair to depend on my intuition when it’s not my safety I’m risking.

Think about it this way, the risk on your end of sending a deposit is that you might lose 50$. The risk for a provider who doesn’t screen…. ?? Well I hope I don’t have to explain how badly that can go for us..

Ok spiel over! If you got this far, thanks for reading. Cheers 🥂 ✌🏼🫡

Good comments....

 

[Dawgspeed]

Thanks so much for this mention!! Xox

I have raised my age limit recently, so unfortunately it won’t be me, but I do hope OP will find someone nice for his first encounter! Xo


Direct message to OP now: I wouldn’t normally bother saying anything but since I was mentioned, I will take this as an invitation to add my two cents. 😝
As a reputable independent service provider I wanted to say, I’m a little disappointed by all the people here advising you not to send a deposit. I understand there is risk for bad experiences on the clients end but as long as you do your homework about the provider you see (as suggested many times in the thread), There is nothing wrong with sending a deposit.

Firstly, It’s respectful of her time and makes her feel confident and assured in her booking with you! If you want an enthusiastic provider who shows you a good time, making her feel respected, safe and happy isn’t a bad idea…

Secondly, it is not a scam, it’s a method of screening we use to protect ourselves. As reputable providers our reputations are worth a lot more than the 50$ we may ask you for, for a deposit. Our livelihoods depend on our reputations so it’s not worth the risk to scam someone over 50$. Hope that makes sense..

I personally DON’T require screening for myself in less I get the feeling it’s necessary. I DO require it when I’m doing phones at The Playhouse and booking for someone aside from myself, in my cooperative,
A) cause it’s standard,

but also B) because I don’t feel like it’s fair to depend on my intuition when it’s not my safety I’m risking.

Think about it this way, the risk on your end of sending a deposit is that you might lose 50$. The risk for a provider who doesn’t screen…. ?? Well I hope I don’t have to explain how badly that can go for us..

Ok spiel over! If you got this far, thanks for reading. Cheers 🥂 ✌🏼🫡

Great advice .. Well Said ..

Considering he is a noob to this .. Has`nt even gotten his feet wet .. I figured it was best to just tell him .. dont do it ..
He will learn over time who & when to send Deposits Too .. For example you & your crew .. I personally would have Zero issues sending you one ..

Until he gets some experience under his belt .. best to play it safe i think ..
Cheers

 

[G-Rob]

Great advice .. Well Said ..

Considering he is a noob to this .. Has`nt even gotten his feet wet .. I figured it was best to just tell him .. dont do it ..
He will learn over time who & when to send Deposits Too .. For example you & your crew .. I personally would have Zero issues sending you one ..

Until he gets some experience under his belt .. best to play it safe i think ..
Cheers

Agree

 

[Ms.Frankie.Finesse]

Great advice .. Well Said ..

Considering he is a noob to this .. Has`nt even gotten his feet wet .. I figured it was best to just tell him .. dont do it ..
He will learn over time who & when to send Deposits Too .. For example you & your crew .. I personally would have Zero issues sending you one ..

Until he gets some experience under his belt .. best to play it safe i think ..
Cheers

Thanks for all the thoughtful input! It is good advice and I definitely agree that it’s smart to stay cautious until OP is more familiar with the landscape. Taking your time to learn who’s who and how things work is a solid move!

I just also think it’s important to add the nuances 😝

While some good providers (myself included) may be flexible with deposits or screening, it’s worth remembering that ease of booking isn’t always a guarantee for a good experience. Sometimes the providers who are quickest or easiest to book with may be navigating different priorities or circumstances—and that can occasionally come with its own set of risks, like inconsistent service or a less professional work ethic.

That’s not to say those providers are bad or doing anything wrong—it’s just part of the range of experiences out there. I think, for a new person it’s important to understand that a provider with a few extra steps in place is often to ensure safety and quality—for everyone involved.

So yes, caution is wise, but balance is important too. Do your research, trust your gut, and remember that a bit of effort upfront usually sets the tone for a much better time.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Sometimes the providers who are quickest or easiest to book with may be navigating different priorities or circumstances—and that can occasionally come with its own set of risks, like inconsistent service or a less professional work ethic.

That’s not to say those providers are bad or doing anything wrong—it’s just part of the range of experiences out there. I think, for a new person it’s important to understand that a provider with a few extra steps in place is often to ensure safety and quality—for everyone involved.

I don’t screen and I don’t require deposits if people see me at my place. I also can sometimes see somebody with very short notice. It takes me 30 minutes to get ready. I don’t recommend short notice as I can be really busy some days and I’m somewhat low volume. But it’s super easy to book with me. Lots of texts I don’t even reply to, tho. So if you message wasup or yo. It might just sit there on read forever lol. I’ve been working since before screening and deposits were ever even thought of.

 

[Ms.Frankie.Finesse]

I don’t screen and I don’t require deposits if people see me at my place. I also can sometimes see somebody with very short notice. It takes me 30 minutes to get ready. I don’t recommend short notice as I can be really busy some days and I’m somewhat low volume. But it’s super easy to book with me. Lots of texts I don’t even reply to, tho. So if you message wasup or yo. It might just sit there on read forever lol. I’ve been working since before screening and deposits were ever even thought of.

I’ve only heard wonderful things about you harmony! Another example of a great provider who doesn’t screen and may be a great option for OP 😉😘😘 Again, Many great providers don’t ask for deposits. I’m just trying to say that in other examples, easy doesn’t always equal safe.

 

[G-Rob]

Thanks for all the thoughtful input! It is good advice and I definitely agree that it’s smart to stay cautious until OP is more familiar with the landscape. Taking your time to learn who’s who and how things work is a solid move!

I just also think it’s important to add the nuances 😝

While some good providers (myself included) may be flexible with deposits or screening, it’s worth remembering that ease of booking isn’t always a guarantee for a good experience. Sometimes the providers who are quickest or easiest to book with may be navigating different priorities or circumstances—and that can occasionally come with its own set of risks, like inconsistent service or a less professional work ethic.

That’s not to say those providers are bad or doing anything wrong—it’s just part of the range of experiences out there. I think, for a new person it’s important to understand that a provider with a few extra steps in place is often to ensure safety and quality—for everyone involved.

So yes, caution is wise, but balance is important too. Do your research, trust your gut, and remember that a bit of effort upfront usually sets the tone for a much better time.

Very well put Ms Finesse......

 

[Dubtrub]

As all others have posted, do your research, this place here is fantastic and most are always ready to help. As for deposits I see the pros and cons of them both, and as someone who foolishly once sent one without research and losing out on that I am very hesitant about it. Having said that if I found on here that they are indeed reputable as the lovely ones who have messaged here are I would define do it. My 2 cents would be to try an agency first, I do love island's finest myself, and as a complete shocker I would recommend Kat.
Now I've seen only her from IF for over 3 years now, I may be a bit biased
Lol
But IF has always been amazing to me and my messages when I send them and I myself cannot express enough gratitude for them and for Kat who helped me get through some dark times
The OP is young, but this hobby is great as it takes away some stress on what to say and the ladies are great for helping gain confirmation. Always treat them right, as they are amazing and lovely all. Treat them right and you can never go wrong.

 

[VicIslandMan]

I am 21, in Gordon Head Area, I am new to this stuff so my apologies if there are any dumb questions. I wanted to try my first "massage" and I am seeing people drop these reviews on here and it seems like they are mentioning this stuff about bbbj and...

1.) I was wondering how you are instantly knowing they are clean and all that stuff and know they are telling the truth.

2.) Is it just their fee you're paying for, or also their taxi ride over.

3.) Is it also overkill to not pay through etransfer and do stuff like masking my identity/fake name?

I want to try it for my first time but I don't want to get into legal trouble or they try to take advantage of it being my first time just to be prepared.

Thank you.

Looks like you already have received a lot of great advice and different points of view from both sides, from many of the members here. Here is also a link to a online first time’s guide written by people in Vancouver’s s** work industry and a link to common industry terms, acronyms, and slang. (although it doesn’t reference “Digits” as a thing anymore.🤔🤷🏼‍♂️)


Here are rules I go by for my own preferences and has served me well, through trial and error. (YMMV)

1) Always think with your big head, not with your little one. (Do your homework and use common sense)

2) Know what you want and communicate with the provider what service you are looking to experience.(Maybe harder to communicate with some providers that speak another language, but not impossible - translator apps are your wingman) Lol

3) Be on Point with your personal hygiene and don’t overlook areas of your body, like your fingernails. (you’re more likely to have a better experience with the provider, if your hygiene is on point and less YMMV)

4) My personal preference is to never do deposits (i’ve been burnt before thinking with my little head)

5) Treat your provider, well (especially if you plan to repeat, and they will return the favour)

6) My personal preference is Incalls only to be more Discreet and remain Anonymous. (Outcalls also cost more)

7) Do what works for you and what your preferences to what your needs are.

I hope this helps you out.
Stay Safe and Enjoy!


First Timers Guide
https://www.straight.com/living/a-first-timers-guide-to-booking-a-sex-worker-in-canada#

Common Industry Terms, Acronyms and Slang
https://redlightaustralia.com/learning-the-lingo/

 

[vanisle7]

Never thought that a simple question from a newbie would create a wave of responses. Good for you buddy. Altho, i haven't seen a message from the original requester for a while so maybe he has already got all the info needed, as already booked with a provider, or something else. But i can add to this thread would be (on top of everything that was already said here, so not gonna repeat):

- since prostitution is decriminalized but still not legal, we are in a grey zone. This would be a reason of that obscure situation where scam and fraud is frequent (on both side). You have to know the reason why providers are asking screening and/or deposits prior to see you (which was clearly explained by Frankie and Harmony) and the reason why the clients don't like doing this (which was explained also by everybody else). Now, you have to make your own decision on this topic. If you want to do a screening and/or send a deposit, that's on you. If you get scam, you have no defence to help you. It's a risk you take but still can do your homework before doing this.

- speaking of doing your homework, that is (according to my experience in this hobby) the biggest reason of why you get scammed and/or why you have a bad experience. When you read people say "think with your big head", they are 100% right. When its 11pm on a friday night and your mini-me really wants to enter a cave because he is horny, keep in mind that your decision will mostly not be good. You will probably call or text the first girl you want to see and she will ask for a deposit and you will get scam because of your mini-me (and you didn't do your homework). So my big advise here would be to do your homework everyday and keep in mind providers that has good reviews here and that they have a reputation here. Don't text a new provider on leolist that you haven't done any homework on. As mentioned, you can see pronstarson leolist that apparently they've decided to visit victoria at 300$/hr for full service (no restrictions). Since I've seen pornstars in the past, they NEVER CHARGE THAT AMOUNT. The cheapest I've seen was at 1000$/hr for diner-date with the presence of her bodyguards and no guarantee of a fun time. Anyway, do your homework...

- people say that providers may get tested frequently. Do not take their word for it and get yourself tested frequently also. This is your duty for your own health. If you are sexualy active with multiple partners, get tested frequently... period

Hope that help

 

[TauntingTee]

I'm thinking I can only do outcall since it might drive the price up too much if I don't. I was thinking Essence of Asia since I saw there's many reviews on here for them. However you mentioned agency, as in like victoriaescorts .ca the website?

There are two massage places here if you want more of a massage.

Bamboo. You can just walk in. You do not need to pay a deposit. There is no shower.
https://www.leolist.cc/fr/personals..._s_best_massage_spa_for_over_10_years-5701288
(I personally would reccomend going to Sunshine its more cleaner - discreet, same owner.

There is also a place called Bliss massage - More discreet, they have a shower as well with diff girls popping up from time to time. (its in a building near cook and fort very discreet)

https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...book_your_ultimate_relaxation_massage-9541686

But if you want more the escort route with an actual bed i'd recomment Vogue.

 

[KAM369]

There are two massage places here if you want more of a massage.

Bamboo. You can just walk in. You do not need to pay a deposit. There is no shower.
https://www.leolist.cc/fr/personals..._s_best_massage_spa_for_over_10_years-5701288
(I personally would reccomend going to Sunshine its more cleaner - discreet, same owner.

There is also a place called Bliss massage - More discreet, they have a shower as well with diff girls popping up from time to time. (its in a building near cook and fort very discreet)

https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...book_your_ultimate_relaxation_massage-9541686

But if you want more the escort route with an actual bed i'd recomment Vogue.

From my experience I'd recommend Asian spa over Bliss- better selection,service and rates. Only thing going for Bliss IMHO is a more discreet location

 

[empacher0801]

Think about it this way, the risk on your end of sending a deposit is that you might lose 50$. The risk for a provider who doesn’t screen…. ?? Well I hope I don’t have to explain how badly that can go for us..

I don't want to minimize the very real risk providers face, or turn this in to a "who risks more" conversation, but I would like to point out that we risk a lot more than $50.

I have personally had a blackmail situation happen that lasted close to a year and ended with police involved, due to an independent provider using my identity against me. My personal safety, and career were both put at risk. The stress and harassment over that year were insane.

If someone is married or has kids, those could also be put at risk.

I really do wish there was a way to show providers their safety is ensured while also protecting our privacy. Are NDA's a thing in these scenarios? Would they hold up for these transactions? Would some provider accept a brief (and paid) public meet for a coffee in lieu of screening? I have no idea. But I do know there are several providers I'd love to see, and who I'm sure I would be a reliable and respectful client to, who I cannot because of the screening process involved. I can't blame them for protecting themselves, but after what I went through, I won't take that risk again, personally.

 

[vanisle7]

I don't want to minimize the very real risk providers face, or turn this in to a "who risks more" conversation, but I would like to point out that we risk a lot more than $50.

I have personally had a blackmail situation happen that lasted close to a year and ended with police involved, due to an independent provider using my identity against me. My personal safety, and career were both put at risk. The stress and harassment over that year were insane.

If someone is married or has kids, those could also be put at risk.

I really do wish there was a way to show providers their safety is ensured while also protecting our privacy. Are NDA's a thing in these scenarios? Would they hold up for these transactions? Would some provider accept a brief (and paid) public meet for a coffee in lieu of screening? I have no idea. But I do know there are several providers I'd love to see, and who I'm sure I would be a reliable and respectful client to, who I cannot because of the screening process involved. I can't blame them for protecting themselves, but after what I went through, I won't take that risk again, personally.

I agree with you! The only way I can see this happening is to Legalize the oldest job in the world and make it a red light district exactly like multiple countries are already doing. It's a win win win situation

Win = security, screening, STI test, health coverage and benefits for all sex workers

Win = security for the client. Also reduce the amount of douchebag making this industry a bad place to be.

Win = Government makes money with taxes, may reduce illegal activities and reduce the wrong people in the business.

Sounds good to me, or better then what it is now and where this industry is heading.

 

[beejayguy]

With the fake ads, what usually happens to those who go for it? Is the girl not the girl in the ad? Is there no girl?
I've texted with a couple gals b4 and decided against it cuz she seemed tgtbt, but.. I'm almost at the point of what's the worst that could happen?
They've usually been at a hotel in Abby, and Stunningly beautiful...like.. Stunning!

 

[Ms.Frankie.Finesse]

I don't want to minimize the very real risk providers face, or turn this in to a "who risks more" conversation, but I would like to point out that we risk a lot more than $50.

I have personally had a blackmail situation happen that lasted close to a year and ended with police involved, due to an independent provider using my identity against me. My personal safety, and career were both put at risk. The stress and harassment over that year were insane.

If someone is married or has kids, those could also be put at risk.

I really do wish there was a way to show providers their safety is ensured while also protecting our privacy. Are NDA's a thing in these scenarios? Would they hold up for these transactions? Would some provider accept a brief (and paid) public meet for a coffee in lieu of screening? I have no idea. But I do know there are several providers I'd love to see, and who I'm sure I would be a reliable and respectful client to, who I cannot because of the screening process involved. I can't blame them for protecting themselves, but after what I went through, I won't take that risk again, personally.

That’s awful 😣 I’m sorry you went through that. No one should have to deal with that when you're just trying to have a fun and safe time.

I wish I had all the answers 😔 I get the desire for something like an NDA but I personally wouldn’t be able to offer that. That would mean giving our legal name to every client who didn’t like the screening options. That would put us at even more risk on top of the usual concerns around safety or being targeted.

It’s such a tough balance. I think most of us would love to be able to skip screening with clients we know are good people but we don’t get to know that in advance. Can only hope the industry will evolve to find creative, mutual trust-building options that work for both sides.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I agree with you! The only way I can see this happening is to Legalize the oldest job in the world and make it a red light district exactly like multiple countries are already doing. It's a win win win situation

Win = security, screening, STI test, health coverage and benefits for all sex workers

Win = security for the client. Also reduce the amount of douchebag making this industry a bad place to be.

Win = Government makes money with taxes, may reduce illegal activities and reduce the wrong people in the business.

Sounds good to me, or better then what it is now and where this industry is heading.

No please no. This would be my nightmare coming true. Seems like a good idea until I have to leave my place to go work in a red light district competing with everybody there for clients. Sitting in a window in lingerie trying to entice walkers by to sample my wares. “Hey big boy. Wanna spend some money and have a good time? Only $50 tonight.” Because the girls down the block is undercutting everybody and it’s a slow night and I got bills to pay🤢🤮. Lol. This is the reality in Amsterdam. In Vegas where it’s legal, you can only work in legal brothels which are an hour plus drive out of the city. They take half of everything you make, and nickel and dime you for everything else. On a slow couple of weeks you can leave owing money. Not all Vegas brothels are the same of course. Some are ok. Others are horrid.


Decriminalizing tho. Yes!! This is my body. What I do with it, is nobody’s business but mine. And maybe whoever reading this that jumps on my “Hey big boy. Wanna spend some money and have a good time?”

 

[Harmony-bc]

Escorting is the exact same as dating. We are meeting strange men for free or for money. It’s the same thing. Some strange men are not that great. Some are straight up evil. Some women are not that great. And a few are evil. On both sides of the fence, there are scammers.

So on that note, play in the parameters that make you feel safe and don’t feel guilty for asking for screening or feel guilty for refusing to screen.