10 years ago I had the same type of conversation with an American friend of a friend about the difference between communism, socialism, national socialism, liberalism, anarchism , etc . After 2 hours i had to pull my phone and Google the political system chart to show him where each system stands vs each other .
Because socialism was so bad in his mind that i had to ask Sweden good or bad people, Norway good or bad , etc as everything in his mind was linked to a Venezuela type of system. Sad that they lack the basic knowledge that would allow them to understand the historical and geopolitical issues without too much biases or at least a certain comprehension.
The average american do not see what Eisenhower was talking about in 1959 turned out to come to past ; adding to that their healthcare system that feeds on government money at 70% but is redistributed unevenly to the people that pay the bill or get some kind of coverage or half or not at all . Its Socialist system to the corporations instead to go to the people directly.