Chair of the CRTC has got to go

wetnose

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https://blogs.teksavvy.com/the-liberal-government-must-fire-crtc-chair-ian-scott

"We don’t urge the firing of a CRTC chair lightly, but in our view, Scott is not working in the interests of Canadians or a competitive telecommunications market. His words, actions and deeds are consistently benefiting giant, massively profitable companies to the detriment of all Canadians.

The government must immediately replace Scott with a chair who looks out for Canadians, competition and innovation and who understands the role that smaller, wholesale-based upstart companies play in the greater ecosystem. This new chair must treat all industry players equally and do more to balance big corporate profits with consumer welfare, which means a quick reversal of the wholesale rates decision and a revisiting of the recently released mobile rules."
 
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I briefly skimmed the article, but I wonder (I saw no mention) if the bill C-10 has some part in it as well.
 

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At no time in my lifetime have I ever felt the CRTC was working for the consumer. The Cartel we have now in our telecom industry has been the same for decades. That organization needs a ball breaker running it or just fold it up and get the fuck out of town and let the industry have competition. Throw in AT&T, Verizon etc. See how fast your cell package becomes affordable.
 
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An unnamed company executive I worked for told me a story about a media figure who wanted to get a radio license worth millions in Toronto but knew it would be uphill as he had sold other properties which the CRTC supposedly frowns on the idea of granting a license to a station owner who has a history of selling. The person who told me the following, would know. The license purchaser he claims bribed all the commissioners at that time with 1 million each to support his application. Sounds like a lot of coin..but he turned around and sold that station for 90 million dollars. Wise investment turns out.
 

80watts

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Untill there is a law that all public employee have to make their income available for public view, and all foriegn investment made know (tax shelters). Then you will have public employees taking bribes etc.
If you know they took bribes, go out and shoot them dead. Maybe the rest of the fuckers will act for Canadians instead of themselves....

Actually report it to the RCMP so they can just let it sit on a file collecting dust....
 

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The CRTC is the reason our radio stations suck, and our TV programs are unwatchable.
I'm surprised cable tv and satellite are still doing well. I'm an old guy and I haven't had either in about 15 years. I don't know a single person under 30 that uses either service.
 
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WandErection

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That's the kind of shit that happens when they let a person who knows fuck all about technology and a lot about lobbying run the CRTC...

Or a religious group known for torturing and raping children run schools... (the catholic church and residential schools).

recipes for disaster.
 

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An unnamed company executive I worked for told me a story about a media figure who wanted to get a radio license worth millions in Toronto but knew it would be uphill as he had sold other properties which the CRTC supposedly frowns on the idea of granting a license to a station owner who has a history of selling. The person who told me the following, would know. The license purchaser he claims bribed all the commissioners at that time with 1 million each to support his application. Sounds like a lot of coin..but he turned around and sold that station for 90 million dollars. Wise investment turns out.
This post has all the indicators of 'fake news': an unfalsifiable claim with anonymous sources and actors which supports a certain worldview and claims of being privy to inside knowledge.

There are a few problems with your 'story': the valuation of the radio station which a quick Google search of radio station sales and acquisitions will debunk and the fact that the CRTC hold oversight over all sales and resales, meaning if the actor had already sold stations previously they would have had CRTC approval as would the flipping of the station in your story.

Anyone with any knowledge of Canadian media would know it is flipped and traded all the time. Nice though to add the intrigue of corruptible officials, but do you really think audiences are that gullible?
 
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CanineCowboy

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At no time in my lifetime have I ever felt the CRTC was working for the consumer. The Cartel we have now in our telecom industry has been the same for decades. That organization needs a ball breaker running it or just fold it up and get the fuck out of town and let the industry have competition. Throw in AT&T, Verizon etc. See how fast your cell package becomes affordable.
So why did Wind fail?

Why has Shaw been unable to capture a large cellular market share and instead is selling to Rogers?
 

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Yes the CRTC Chair needs to go. Former Lobbyist for Telus suits the telecoms fine. If you’re looking for a better deal on cellular, this guy won’t champion it for you.

So why did Wind fail?

Why has Shaw been unable to capture a large cellular market share and instead is selling to Rogers?
Shaw has a Fiber network already in place while Wind did not have anything other than the licences they purchased. For that reason alone, Shaw is more attractive to Rogers. After years of talking cellular networks, I’m surprised to see get out so quickly. Then again it’s a family business and you never know what their goals are for Shaw.

Networks require a back haul to move the voice or data back to their NOC network operation centre. Wind was leasing network access and back haul. Without those assets, it basically made them sell their product by price only. Fido or any other low cost entity just had to lower price or add other features and it cut into Winds shrinking share of the biz.
 

Buddyguy66

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This post has all the indicators of 'fake news': an unfalsifiable claim with anonymous sources and actors which supports a certain worldview and claims of being privy to inside knowledge.

There are a few problems with your 'story': the valuation of the radio station which a quick Google search of radio station sales and acquisitions will debunk and the fact that the CRTC hold oversight over all sales and resales, meaning if the actor had already sold stations previously they would have had CRTC approval as would the flipping of the station in your story.

Anyone with any knowledge of Canadian media would know it is flipped and traded all the time. Nice though to add the intrigue of corruptible officials, but do you really think audiences are that gullible?
Believe what you like. I was told what I was told and based on who my source was and how highly placed they were I have no reason to doubt what they said. But hey..you do you.
 

CanineCowboy

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Yes the CRTC Chair needs to go. Former Lobbyist for Telus suits the telecoms fine. If you’re looking for a better deal on cellular, this guy won’t champion it for you.



Shaw has a Fiber network already in place while Wind did not have anything other than the licences they purchased. For that reason alone, Shaw is more attractive to Rogers. After years of talking cellular networks, I’m surprised to see get out so quickly. Then again it’s a family business and you never know what their goals are for Shaw.

Networks require a back haul to move the voice or data back to their NOC network operation centre. Wind was leasing network access and back haul. Without those assets, it basically made them sell their product by price only. Fido or any other low cost entity just had to lower price or add other features and it cut into Winds shrinking share of the biz.
Remember years before Shaw bought Wind, they bought wireless spectrum at auction, held it for a number of years and then abandoned plans to enter cellular citing the desire to focus on core business instead of spending an additional billion dollars to enter the market. They sold their spectrum for $700 million valuation to Rogers in 2014.

Until Rogers made their offer to buy Shaw earlier this year, Shaw's stock price was relatively flat, it is not like the cellular market is a license to print money, the infrastructure costs are prohibitive.
 
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