Deposits & E-Transfers

TaraGreen

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I can understand why gentlemen are hesitant to send deposits and e-transfers when booking an SP.

I understand that there are scammers who will take your money and then disappear without ever offering the service that was promised.

But here's the other side...

I've booked high-end hotels in Vancouver, and traveled from Nanaimo just to meet gentlemen who never showed up for the date we arranged. I know I'm not the only touring lady who's had this experience.

I had a particularly bad experience last summer, when I booked a beautiful downtown suite for a guest who cancelled last minute. I've been hesitant to host guests in Vancouver ever since, and I mainly only do out-calls now.

But I love Vancouver. I love the energy, the multiculturalism, and the opulence. I love the men and the providers I've had the pleasure of meeting in the Rainy City, and so...with trepidation...I'm planning a few small tours in Vancouver, and I'm asking for a 20% deposit on bookings.

Twenty percent is not a large amount of money, but it *hopefully* indicates that the gentleman is serious about actually meeting me.

To the men: Is this a good compromise? What can I do as a provider to assuage your fears and show that I'm sincere in my intentions?

To the SPs: Do you request deposits? Why or why not?
Thank you for bringing the subject up!
Given the expenses that go along with touring I feel it is totally fair for you to request a deposit. I selfishly want you to come to Vancouver more so do what you need to create more ease in making the trip.... T xx
 

TaraGreen

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For me, deposits are not a deal breaker. I will tend to be more lenient with any client who has a glowing reference from another provider, although if I've never met you before, this can still be iffy.

And yes, I would consider a gift card in lieu of an e-transfer if that allows for more anonymity for the client.

At the end of the day, I'm not looking to get rich off of people's deposits. I put a lot of time, love, and care into arranging my dates, and I generally don't book more than one date per day...sometimes two in exceptional cases...so when I arrange to meet someone, I want to know that they're actually going to show up.

As Kamivix pointed out--we love what we do, and it's disappointing when you set up a beautiful scenario for somebody and they don't show up, or they cancel last minute.

I would hope that if someone books with me, they are as excited as I am, and they make a genuine effort to show up. If they can't make it, I would hope that they would let me know with as much notice as possible.
I am like you. I don't see more than one person per day. So if someone doesn't show there is an impact. And we do put a lot into preparing for a session... which is part of the fun...Generally if someone has a great reference I don't ask for a deposit..

Here is an option to pay a deposit discretely:
Set up a paypal account under your alias with your alias email
Instead of using your personal account or credit card you can use visa gift cards.
This way no personal information is attached.

T x
 

Addison Cortez

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I am like you. I don't see more than one person per day. So if someone doesn't show there is an impact. And we do put a lot into preparing for a session... which is part of the fun...Generally if someone has a great reference I don't ask for a deposit..

Here is an option to pay a deposit discretely:
Set up a paypal account under your alias with your alias email
Instead of using your personal account or credit card you can use visa gift cards.
This way no personal information is attached.

T x
Smart!! :)Do you find paypal user friendly?
 

westwoody

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Smart!! :)Do you find paypal user friendly?
NEVER use paypal for any escort activity.
They have strict policies against doing so. They can and WILL freeze your account if they find you are an escort.
You will lose all the money in your account.
They have also frozen accounts of guys sending money.

TL/DR: paypal is not sex worker friendly, do not use it
 

P3t3rp4n

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NEVER use paypal for any escort activity.
They have strict policies against doing so. They can and WILL freeze your account if they find you are an escort.
You will lose all the money in your account.
They have also frozen accounts of guys sending money.

TL/DR: paypal is not sex worker friendly, do not use it
False. PayPal is perfect fine as long as you always send GIFTED payments. Never send as a good or service.
Plenty of SW use PayPal, but obviously they do not register as a business. Register as a personal account. Link your bank account and voila.
 

westwoody

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I have heard first hand from ladies who have had accounts frozen, regardless of description of transaction.

It is too risky.
 

TaraGreen

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NEVER use paypal for any escort activity.
They have strict policies against doing so. They can and WILL freeze your account if they find you are an escort.
You will lose all the money in your account.
They have also frozen accounts of guys sending money.

TL/DR: paypal is not sex worker friendly, do not use it
I don't use my work name or real name for it.... so far no problems...
 

Caramel

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What a coincidence, I've also just started asking for deposits from new clients. So far I've been thrilled with the very positive reception!

I made a totally discreet and nondescript email address for clients to send either an etransfer or an amazon gift card. Very easy! Sure a few people will balk at that, but you still won't be losing as much as you would through last-minute cancellations. Plus you are well respected, so anyone who thinks you're going to ruin your reputation by running away with their 50 dollar deposit is crazy.

I'm so happy that I'm seeing this becoming a trend among providers. It really changes your entire day when you don't have to worry about your next client bailing at the last minute. I wish I had done this ages ago!

Good luck to you :)
do you have another bank account for it? because my e-transfers give me the full name of the person sending me money, and they also get my full name in their account, regardless of my email. So I was just wondering how you ladies take care of that :)
 

Caramel

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I have heard first hand from ladies who have had accounts frozen, regardless of description of transaction.

It is too risky.
yeah I wouldn't use that for any type of unsavory activity, paypal is a pain in the ass! I refuse to use paypal for anything, if I want to buy something online or pay for a service, I won't do it unless there is an option to pay with credit card and they don't only use paypal. I am boycotting it because I know someone whos been frozen in the past, and it certainly was NOT for anything illegal! so imagine if it actually was
 

Caramel

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It is a good compromise. It would weed out fake bookings. They would never give away any amount of their own money.

However, it only works for clients who are willing to send deposits at all. Some won't due to privacy concerns, or just because it's an extra effort comparing to other options.
The current laws and/or having an SO make any kind of paper trail undesirable.

Some of previous discussions
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?250042-E-Transfer-Would-you-ever-VOTE!!
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?249379-etransfers-!
this would probably be a good idea for SP's who are not the survival type, or the ones who really need the money desperately and quickly...a lot of SP's charge a lot, and need references etc, so I can totally see them doing this too, because they seem to be content with their business and are not in a desperate rush to get paid...they don't need to have a revolving door of clients or have to work everyday. So those guys who don't want to deal with deposits, they can go somewhere else, I doubt the provider would be missing out at all or care at all! Lots of SP's do this on the side or just very part time, the income from this is very lucrative and one can work modestly and still have a good income.
 

Caramel

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The point is, we don’t sit around in lingerie with vibrators in our asses (not 24/7 anyways)... we shop, we go to the gym, we eat, spa, sleep... it takes two-three hours of our lives to get to the incall then to prepare for a date with you and then you just don’t come??? I could have been enjoying my life. Is it fun getting ready for a date or is it the date itself you enjoy? I mean in real life.. is it packing for a holiday that is fun or is it the holiday?? Is it winding the fishing line onto the fishing reel or is it reeling in the fish that is the fun part?? So basically you have ruined my day and likely my plans for the day, taken up at least TWO HOURS of my time and now I have to pay for the fuel loss or missed appointments I made in my personal life because I made you my priority... and I’m not even getting to have the fun I anticipated. You have ruined my day (for at least that hour). So if you can’t appreciate that and show your SUPPORT, I am happy if you don’t deposit and go elsewhere. I have the best and most respectful clientele because I don’t need shitty ones. It’s a two way street and if you wanna keep it that way you have to pay your taxes
was just thinking the exact same thing while reading the above comments lol...and its not just about enjoying your day, some girls work other jobs, have kids, have other important tasks that need to be done etc so being stood up for nothing ruins that.

and double booking is not a surprise at all, infact, sounds logical to do that to me! especially in the current climate of no-shows for every 5 inquiries
 

Addison Cortez

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was just thinking the exact same thing while reading the above comments lol...and its not just about enjoying your day, some girls work other jobs, have kids, have other important tasks that need to be done etc so being stood up for nothing ruins that.

and double booking is not a surprise at all, infact, sounds logical to do that to me! especially in the current climate of no-shows for every 5 inquiries
Precisely but I would never double book unless they were both aware and both actually showing up lol ;)

Truth be told, I rarely force deposit. Typically if I feel the need to ask I’m less interested in meeting already. I have almost as strict of booking rules as Miss Hunter does and I put up with just about the same amount of texting as she. Anyone who knows me, knows that I don’t enjoy the administrative side to this but love session times and generally if someone is serious about me, they do everything in their power not to fuck that up. It’s usually pretty eaay to tell the difference but sometimes we misread unclear signals, that’s why I don’t use texting for chitchat, my signals are very clear. Obviously, I never ask repeats for deposit.


As for the name, or “nickname” you could change it in your settings (usually)
 

Mr Quim

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Precisely but I would never double book unless they were both aware and both actually showing up lol ;)

Truth be told, I rarely force deposit. Typically if I feel the need to ask I’m less interested in meeting already. I have almost as strict of booking rules as Miss Hunter does and I put up with just about the same amount of texting as she. Anyone who knows me, knows that I don’t enjoy the administrative side to this but love session times and generally if someone is serious about me, they do everything in their power not to fuck that up. It’s usually pretty eaay to tell the difference but sometimes we misread unclear signals, that’s why I don’t use texting for chitchat, my signals are very clear. Obviously, I never ask repeats for deposit.


As for the name, or “nickname” you could change it in your settings (usually)


A very eloquently voiced Comment !

I'm always amazed, at how keen a Woman's intuition, actually is ?

It must be a primal Instinct, rooted in Survival ?

Back to Topic...

I've never had a problem with PayPal, and would honestly prefer that Option myself !

IMHO, it seems to offer, more discretion ?

I'm in for a Nickel now... LOL

Cheers
 
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Addison Cortez

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Precisely but I would never double book unless they were both aware and both actually showing up lol ;)

Truth be told, I rarely force deposit. Typically if I feel the need to ask I’m less interested in meeting already. I have almost as strict of booking rules as Miss Hunter does and I put up with just about the same amount of texting as she. Anyone who knows me, knows that I don’t enjoy the administrative side to this but love session times and generally if someone is serious about me, they do everything in their power not to fuck that up. It’s usually pretty eaay to tell the difference but sometimes we misread unclear signals, that’s why I don’t use texting for chitchat, my signals are very clear. Obviously, I never ask repeats for deposit.


As for the name, or “nickname” you could change it in your settings (usually)
I want to enjoy myself in session, not be on edge!! If I need to ask, I wasn't given the respect I require, so, why should I make any more effort making an appointment to give my body and soul to this type of person.
 

Caramel

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Precisely but I would never double book unless they were both aware and both actually showing up lol ;)

Truth be told, I rarely force deposit. Typically if I feel the need to ask I’m less interested in meeting already. I have almost as strict of booking rules as Miss Hunter does and I put up with just about the same amount of texting as she. Anyone who knows me, knows that I don’t enjoy the administrative side to this but love session times and generally if someone is serious about me, they do everything in their power not to fuck that up. It’s usually pretty eaay to tell the difference but sometimes we misread unclear signals, that’s why I don’t use texting for chitchat, my signals are very clear. Obviously, I never ask repeats for deposit.


As for the name, or “nickname” you could change it in your settings (usually)
hmmm, interesting, I do have that option, I wonder if I change it, will it actually work? hehe, must test this....oh wait, I don't think it will work, because that is just the account number and you can change that into whatever name, but the actual account holder, which is ME, the name will probably always show up anyways! Maybe my bank is just useless and old school, RBC ugh lol
 

Addison Cortez

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hmmm, interesting, I do have that option, I wonder if I change it, will it actually work? hehe, must test this....oh wait, I don't think it will work, because that is just the account number and you can change that into whatever name, but the actual account holder, which is ME, the name will probably always show up anyways! Maybe my bank is just useless and old school, RBC ugh lol
Ohhh, I wasn’t clear... I believe this is only for the person receiving the transfer and yes, it may not be an option, depending on your bank
 

felixthecat

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that is just the account number and you can change that into whatever name, but the actual account holder, which is ME, the name will probably always show up anyways! Maybe my bank is just useless and old school, RBC ugh lol
It is bank-dependent. Some allow setting a nickname for the sender (so that the nickname appears in emails to the recipient), some not. The recipient name in emails can be anything the sender enters. However the whole process is less private than it appears.

e-transfer service agreement does not promise anonymity. In fact, you can count on both sender and recipient banks to have legal names of both parties on record, in order to comply with Anti Money Laundering regulations. They get that after the transfer is claimed. It is a choice of the banks which names they show in the bank statements and transaction history. Usually nicknames, but to my knowledge nothing prevents them legally from showing real names tomorrow if they wish. In any case, the records are there and can be subpoenaed by courts if necessary.
 

yvrvisitor

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in order to comply with Anti Money Laundering regulations.
Correct. However I doubt that any etransfer deposit amount will go anywhere near the limit to trigger anti money laundering @ 10k.

canadian bank I use (cibc) has an option to display nickname for sending transfer and I could put any name (ie. 'that girl') as long as I have a phone number or an email address for the recipient.

When I had a sugar babe, I was sending 2k a week to her for a few months. No problem what so ever.

I think the real question here is
Whether you can trust an unknown (ones you haven't seen) with sending small amount $ upfront.
Even if it's $50 or even $20, no good feeling from getting ripped off.
 
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