95-100% of SP's have antibodies against HSV I & II, chlamydia and gonorrhea

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It is important to note that the almost complete absence of HIV among non-drug using prostitutes is not due to safer sex practices. The same studies that found an absence of HIV documented low rates of condom use and very high rates of infection with classical sexually transmitted diseases. Twenty-five to fifty percent of the prostitutes were seropositive for syphilis; the same approximate percent were seropositive for hepatitis B virus (with about 5 percent actively infected); and antibodies against chlamydia, herpes simplex 1, herpes simplex II, and gonorrhea were present in 95 to 100 percent.

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/rrbprostitute.htm
 

Robert Upndown

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Written in 1993 and an American study at that. Really, you are going to post this drivel!!!
 

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Wow only 20 years ago. That's still current if your listening to you sony discman on your way to an appointment. Lol.

Just wait till he dredges up a report from the 80's or the 70's.

Maybe something from the WW 2 era. Asking soldiers to refrain from sex.
I think you have nothing to worry about as you wear a space suit when visiting a SP.
How is the C-Daty going?
 

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I am 95-100%d sure that anything posted on a site called virus myth dot com is going to be pretty biased.
 

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Lol spacesuit and a shot you're such a funny guy. Keep posting medical info and posting journal studies that are now 20 years out of date, are from a different country and have no real rational.

So What's next from your bag of interesting breaking medical news stories small pox cured?
Okay find me the latest studies on the percentage of SP's that are HSV 1 & II, HPV .. positive?
Very hard to find as few would be willing to participate.
I think the early 90's data are more optimistic as well since the HIV scare was pretty high at the time with Magic Johnson testing positive.
 

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i wish that this site and SPs who operate here would be a little less defensive of facts or plainly less ignorant. first off, do the math... where will the highest exposure to sexually transmitted diseases be? in those who are sexually most active. prostitutes and their clients. additionally, seropositive does not mean infection... it means exposure. all humans are seropositive to herpes simplex I by the time they are old but 100% of the population does not walk around with raging cold sores on their faces. i do feel pretty badly for those young guys who come onto the board and within a couple of experiences have genital herpes. and multiple sexual diseases, even when treated successfully is not good for your long term health.
 

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I wasn't aware bacterial infections such as gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, etc created anti-bodies. That's because they don't, at least not for a life-span. Only viral infections create anti-bodies. If that were the case, women for example, would only ever have one bladder infection (NGU) their entire lives and never again.
 

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I wasn't aware bacterial infections such as gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, etc created anti-bodies. That's because they don't, at least not for a life-span. Only viral infections create anti-bodies. If that were the case, women for example, would only ever have one bladder infection (NGU) their entire lives and never again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody

An antibody (Ab), also known as an immunoglobulin (Ig), is a large Y-shaped protein produced by B-cells that is used by the immune system to identify and neutralize foreign objects such as bacteria and viruses.
 

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i do feel pretty badly for those trolls who come onto the board and claim that within a couple of experiences have genital herpes. and multiple sexual diseases, even when treated successfully is not good for your long term health.
there, fixed that for you...

every one of them, to my knowledge, when pressed on the matter, eventually reports back to the board that, 'oooops, the results came in and guess what? it wasn't an sti at all'

then they ride off into the sunset until they come back using a different handle and do it all over again :doh:

my advice to you? be FAR more sceptical of what you read on internet posting forums... :nod:
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody

An antibody (Ab), also known as an immunoglobulin (Ig), is a large Y-shaped protein produced by B-cells that is used by the immune system to identify and neutralize foreign objects such as bacteria and viruses.
Yes, it came from wikipedia, it must be true.

Ig is created to recognize an attack on the immune system when the same infected cells are re-introduced to the body. They act as a shield. This, however, only works with viral infections. You can only catch chicken pox once, not as many times as infected, like a bacterial infection, such as urethritis. The bodies Ig aren't strong enough to fight a bacterial infection on its own, thus the need for antibiotics.

If that were the case, there would be a vaccine for all bacterial infections.
 

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I wasn't aware bacterial infections such as gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis, etc created anti-bodies. That's because they don't, at least not for a life-span. Only viral infections create anti-bodies. If that were the case, women for example, would only ever have one bladder infection (NGU) their entire lives and never again.
i'm sure you know more about it than i... but re-reading your post i see that you actually don't seem to refute that antibodies are created in response to bacterial infection.
 

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there, fixed that for you...

every one of them, to my knowledge, when pressed on the matter, eventually reports back to the board that, 'oooops, the results came in and guess what? it wasn't an sti at all'

then they ride off into the sunset until they come back using a different handle and do it all over again :doh:

my advice to you? be FAR more sceptical of what you read on internet posting forums... :nod:
enjoy your life of bliss....

i personally know people on this board. and i know members who have contracted sexually transmitted disease from sps. and the girls who have provided those infections have apologized to them for doing so.

one thing that has also become apparent is that some people have more powerful immune systems then others. and it's quite obvious that those people are able to participate in the sex trade without incident. but many drop out early because the risks are to apparent after they contract something... maybe something they can't get rid of.

as i believe i've mentioned in another post... the new antibiotic resistant version of gonnorrhea is going to be a bit of a game changer.
 

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lol I think a lot of people are posting about things they know nothing about...
 

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Yes, it came from wikipedia, it must be true.

Ig is created to recognize an attack on the immune system when the same infected cells are re-introduced to the body. They act as a shield. This, however, only works with viral infections. You can only catch chicken pox once, not as many times as infected, like a bacterial infection, such as urethritis. The bodies Ig aren't strong enough to fight a bacterial infection on its own, thus the need for antibiotics.

If that were the case, there would be a vaccine for all bacterial infections.
This is a classic example of how not enough knowledge about a topic, combined with arrogance, produces errors in understanding.
Stop arguing and start listening and researching. By the way, you're wrong.
 

barny-stinson

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This is a classic example of how not enough knowledge about a topic, combined with arrogance, produces errors in understanding.
Stop arguing and start listening and researching. By the way, you're wrong.
In what way am I wrong? Bacterial and Viral infections act different ways in the body, depending on each and every persons own genetic make-up ie) immune system.

Can a woman have only one bladder infection in her entire life? Will her antibodies prevent her from ever having another bladder infection for the rest of her life? Not all UTI's are STI related you know. Ever heard of a yeast infection? Apparently it's common enough they even have commercials for them.

Yet, you can't catch chicken pox, another strain of the HSV, more than once. Would anyone care to refute this? I must have missed that class. You can, later in life, have an outbreak, commonly referred to as shingles, which occurs in 33% of adults.

What is your argument? My mis-wording of bacterial/viral antibodies?

Let me rephrase this differently perhaps. Everyone should know or understand about getting tested. When testing for HIV, they don't actually test for the HIV virus itself, only if antibodies for it are present. This same application applies to Hep-A/B/C, HSV1/2 (though it's rarely tested for), etc. When it comes to bacterial infections, the shelf life is totally different. If a woman is treated for a UTI, does she remain UTI-positive for the rest of her life? No. She could be treated for chlamydia for example, and after 4-6 weeks, would no longer test positive for it.

I don't think I'm being arrogant our outlandish at all. I'm seeing this from a logical standpoint based on how testing for STI's is done.
 
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