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Will you still post a review after Bill c-36 comes in.

Booblover123

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Curious to see how many will still post reviews once the new laws come in.Would it be an admission of guilt,and could it be used to convict you ?
 

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Curious to see how many will still post reviews once the new laws come in.Would it be an admission of guilt,and could it be used to convict you ?
Of course. I think this is much ado about nothing. How on earth can someone prove something posted on a site like that actually did or didn't happen. Most of the stuff that gets posted here seems to be BS anyway (scams, promos, fake ads and the like) so weeding out accurate stories from pure promotional fantasy would be more than a little difficult. You cannot be guilty of anything other than posting about some erotic fantasy - that would be the defense and I think any lawyer who has the IQ to bark would win that case.

The C-36 is more of a big deal to honest escorts who rely upon advertising to drum up sufficient business to make a living. That is where the law would get to be a challenge. Reviews - not a chance that would be a problem.
 

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Of course. I think this is much ado about nothing. How on earth can someone prove something posted on a site like that actually did or didn't happen. Most of the stuff that gets posted here seems to be BS anyway (scams, promos, fake ads and the like) so weeding out accurate stories from pure promotional fantasy would be more than a little difficult. You cannot be guilty of anything other than posting about some erotic fantasy - that would be the defense and I think any lawyer who has the IQ to bark would win that case.

The C-36 is more of a big deal to honest escorts who rely upon advertising to drum up sufficient business to make a living. That is where the law would get to be a challenge. Reviews - not a chance that would be a problem.
i guess that means we would have real shill cops? :D
 

newatit

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Actually posting a review would be an admission of guilt and if the cops got their hands on your real name etc you would be screwed.
Besides that it centres out the SP and just gives the LE an address to sit in front of
 

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Actually posting a review would be an admission of guilt and if the cops got their hands on your real name etc you would be screwed.
Besides that it centres out the SP and just gives the LE an address to sit in front of
2 issues
1-front page declaration that all entries are fictional. easy out. That is the trick TER uses and it works for them. Should work here. Also this board is offshore. One more hurdle for LE to jump over it they want you.
2-who the hell is giving specific enough information to locate an SP. if it's you, STOP
This bill is a complete fuck up. Not charter compliant and unenforceable
 

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I didn't mean to imply that an address would be given but if you post an SP name it doesn't take much for the LE to fake a date to get the address. Then they know they have her and just sit there waiting for you. She would never know the cops are watching her place unless a client told her. And at that the client might think it was a sting and not tell her. But there are a lot of complications to this. Would it work for the LE?
The value of perb might turn to alerting us to which ads are LE. or which girls are under surveillance.
Many realize the gals are going underground on this one. I have heard no new clients or strong inspection predate of a new client. Referrals might become the norm with gals working together to establish a referral network. We might have to meet an SP predate at Tim's for an interview. Of course you can carry a camera with you (ur cellphone) and snap a picture of the suspected cop and post it to a secret website for the purpose.

I am looking forward to reading about this as it develops after the law is enacted.
 
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Sweet_Cherry

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I didn't mean to imply that an address would be given but if you post an SP name it doesn't take much for the LE to fake a date to get the address.
I don't think that the police would bother trawling perb to see what girls are active when they can just go to back pages or craigslist and get 20 or 30 names and locations verses the half dozen they would find off of perb.

Then they know they have her and just sit there waiting for you. She would never know the cops are watching her place unless a client told her. And at that the client might think it was a sting and not tell her. But there are a lot of complications to this. Would it work for the LE?
I'm not sure why a client would think it's a sting and not tell her? Correct me if I am wrong, but it's my understanding that it's more likely going to be a lady cop posing as an SP that is going to be the way that they arrest johns. Like, outdoor hooking has never been legal, which is why you would have to be wary of any new girl who showed up on the stroll, as she might be a UC. Entrapment is NOT illegal in Canada, if you believe it is, you watch too much American TV.

The value of perb might turn to alerting us to which ads are LE. or which girls are under surveillance.
Many realize the gals are going underground on this one. I have heard no new clients or strong inspection predate of a new client. Referrals might become the norm with gals working together to establish a referral network. We might have to meet an SP predate at Tim's for an interview. Of course you can carry a camera with you (ur cellphone) and snap a picture of the suspected cop and post it to a secret website for the purpose.

I am looking forward to reading about this as it develops after the law is enacted.
From what I gather, if you stick to well established girls who have been around for a while you should be fine. And axe the envelope full of money, if you happen to be with a girl when she gets raided, heaven forbid, unless there is evidence laying around, such as an obvious money exchange, the cops will be hard pressed to prove that you're not just there with your fuck buddy. Escorts have sex for free too, you know. Just not with johns. :p

Oh, and one thing to think of (and do, right now): Passcode your phone. If you are arrested and your phone is unlocked, the cops can go through it, but if it's locked they need a warrant. That doesn't save you if you do happen to end up in court, though, as the police can get transcripts of your text messages from your cellphone provider, and from apple or RIM if you use iMessage or BBM, even if you delete the messages off of your phone. I'm not sure how this law applies to messaging apps, such as pinger, but I believe that it is more difficult to get a transcript of these message exchanges if you delete your conversation history. The flip side to that is that some SPs don't like to take clients who don't contact them from a "real" phone number because if something were to happen to them, it would be a lot harder to track down the guy responsible.
 

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LE just needs to monitor one girl's phone for a few hours and they will get all they need.
They have ways of making even the most solid people roll over on their friends.
It's real easy to talk tough on here, not so easy when you are in an interview room and they put the hammer on you. Taxes, kids, jobs, everyone has a weak spot! They get hardcore gangsters to roll over, how hard will a single mother struggling to keep her kids be?
 

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Has anyone bothered to check out the Dot CC domain?

The location of the server is pretty important don't you think?

BBB will carry on.
 

Lo-ki

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Check your closet..:)
Hard to say about posting.
Will have to see if the bill passes.
You can bet it will be challenged again.
 

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Hard to say about posting.
Will have to see if the bill passes.
You can bet it will be challenged again.
If the bill passes it can take around 2 years before they can try and over turn it..

Hope for the best but be prepared for the worst
 

uncleg

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WTF kind of a question is that ???? You post about getting laid...........big deal, guys yap about it in the locker room everyday. Do they admit it was for pay.......hell no, would ruin the player image being fostered. You go see an SP and get fucked...........so what ? As long as there is no mention of money changing hands what's the big deal ? You should be more worried about the wife or girlfriend, if you have one, finding out about you on here.
 
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Has anyone bothered to check out the Dot CC domain?

The location of the server is pretty important don't you think?

BBB will carry on.

http://www.fasken.com/files/publica...-6d9b371b02f5/website-internetgamingpaper.pdf

I don't think LE is interested in ladies who advertise, or you people who post reviews. It is not illegal under C-36 for a lady to advertise and far too much work for LE to connect a review to an offence. It will be illegal for anyone to accept payment (consideration) for advertising. As far as legal precedent, the closest thing to PERB moving its servers offshore and how successful Fred Z will be is the case law on internet gaming. This link may be helpful to you all.
 

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I'm not sure about posting as I have not really been active for the last few years but as far as looking here for 'leads' somehow that wouldn't surprise me. How can you trust a government that has it priorities so screwed up that it closes veteran's affairs offices, closes CRA payment offices, lays off front-line services workers in many departments, forcing seniors to either use a computer for the first time on their life or call into a call centre where their call MAY get answered within an hour. Yet...They have the resources to go after escorts and their customers who for the most part are hurting no one (with the exception of the married ones). Not sure how fruitful it would be but it would not surprise me to see them scouring the internet looking for cases to try just to try and make their legislation look good to the general public. Anyone who votes conservative deserves them lol.
 

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LE just needs to monitor one girl's phone for a few hours and they will get all they need.
They have ways of making even the most solid people roll over on their friends.
It's real easy to talk tough on here, not so easy when you are in an interview room and they put the hammer on you. Taxes, kids, jobs, everyone has a weak spot! They get hardcore gangsters to roll over, how hard will a single mother struggling to keep her kids be?
They could do that, but if they are recorded threatening and extorting a witness into providing "evidence", probably the first ones going to jail would be themselves.

That is not how they would do it. They would still have to prove that money was transferred and that a service was specifically agreed to. The only way they can do that really is to run a sting operation and record what happens. I doubt the courts would accept anything less, so that is what will happen. There will be a few test cases in court to establish the actual practice and standards of law, and after that police will have to follow those evidentiary protocols.

The other way that could happen is that they might intercept a client leaving and intimidate them into confessing voluntarily. This does happen on occasion in the US, usually to unsophisticated clients on the lower end, but if the client refuses to confess under those circumstances the police would have little choice other than to release him.
 
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