Will Fuck for Food!!!!!!! WTF????

[daddyohh]

think it would be interesting to know if and why some guys are willing to take that risk? With all do respect, Do they think their invincible?

Fuck you mean i'm not LOL

Not that i do BBFS, at least not in several decades, i started this when I was in my 20's and that was in the early 70's and in those days it was certainly not uncommon, it was great while it lasted however, hell now I almost never even get a BBBJ.

seriously if you are in this because you are desperate money talks, if someone asks you once a week for BBFS don't you think they are asking everyone they see and eventually someone says yes.

D

 

[erotic_exotica]

seriously if you are in this because you are desperate money talks, if someone asks you once a week for BBFS don't you think they are asking everyone they see and eventually someone says yes.

D

I couldn't agree more. That's what I think about while I'm saying "absoultely not". I don't provide BB anything.

 

[Krustee]

Okay I`m not an escort and I`m going to say you are being really irrational. A shelf life of an escort is usually far shorter than any of those professionals. They have to make the most they can in the shortest amount of time.

Being a sex worker is dangerous, risky to the health(to those that do GFE all the time), and very damaging mentally. To the very few who actually enjoy this that`s great. But to the majority of sex workers it`s a hard cold life.

You know the prices of SPs have gotten out of hand. But you know what? We live in one of the most expensive cities in the world. Property has more than doubled in the last decade. So has gas. Did you expect SP prices to stay stagnant when everything in this city has been jacked up?

Let`s take that argument & run with it shall we?

How much has the cost of housing actually gone up?
Go here -
Housing cost increase Jan 2005 - Jan 2008
22% increase since 2005.
Vancouver house prices up 99% in ten years.

What about when the house prices drop?
`bubble warning`
Will we see the SP prices follow suit?


What about shelf life?
Go here -
how old was your oldest SP

I`ve known personally, 3 escorts still working at over 50 & with loyal clientele.

The difference between those who have a long career & short one is most often related to the amount of drugs consumed.
Oops - that was not politically correct;
I meant to say "Lifestyle".



Please feel free to push forward the dialogue on this - its an interesting topic for sure.

 

[lenny]

They are often not even referred to as people. They are seen and referred to as if they are inanimate objects. I can not imagine how many times I have seen the quote "does she suck good cock?" As if these girls are simply there as blow job machines.

The fact is your 5 word quote sums up what many guys want who see SPs.
All they want is a "blow job machine". If the SPs won't provide this service,
they may lose potential customers who will look to fulfill their needs in
other ways, e.g. internet porn. You don't have to worry about treating the
lady you see on the screen or in the magazine as anything but a sex object
for your pleasure. I assume that is why most guys pay out their hard earned
cash to see a Sex Provider; they are looking for a detached sexual foray.
When a lady expresses concern in how her clients want BJs, and such
has been seen posted here before by an SP, she is practicing good business
like a waitress who inquires how you found your meal.

 

[hugedman]

only 8 a day? that's an easy $560.. where do I sign up?

I need to clear up some comments made on this thread, first of alll, TheGuy stated that these ladies from micros charge $120 to $140 for 45 minutes or an hour of service and if they are just here to fuck for food - my answer to him was that even if they charge 120 for 45 minutes, they would only get $70out of it (after paying some to the mamasan). If they see 8 clients each day and they would still make $560, when did I mention that was easy money?
Some SPs see more clients and some see less per day.
Honestly, many or most indie SP's claim that they only see one or two clients a day - do most of us believe it's true, I highly doubt it. There is only a small numbers of indie SPs who see one client per day...and I believe I have met them.
There is no need to blow the comment out of proportion...
I was simply stating an example - you can say 2 clients per day or 20 per day, I care less...

 

[Krustee]

Some SPs see more clients and some see less per day.
Honestly, many or most indie SP`s claim that they only see one or two clients a day - do most of us believe it`s true, I highly doubt it. There is only a small numbers of indie SPs who see one client per day...and I believe I have met them.
There is no need to blow the comment out of proportion...
I was simply stating an example - you can say 2 clients per day or 20 per day, I care less...

I wonder if there was a poll put up how many SP`s would only claim 5-6 clients per week?

Even at an average of $200 per client that is $1200 tax free.

So that is $5040 per month - Tax Free.

That is $60,480 per year.

That is in the top 20% of income earners in the nation.

TAX FREE

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=80476&highlight=Wealth




Any comments?

 

[MrDaty]

Will pay $500 to eat panties

I am such a good guy, normal guy and great looking guy that you will drop your pants for an orgasm panty eat-out in a heart-beat I need to eat your panties tonight or at your office tomorow...

 

[babygurl]

SP's that charge more are singling out a higher clientle. For those who cannot afford much, they see women in their price range who may see more men in a day then those who charge a higher rate. I you think about it, those who ask for a higher rate are usually worth it and on top of that, dont need to see 6 guys in a day to make decent money.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

I am such a good guy, normal guy and great looking guy that you will drop your pants for an orgasm panty eat-out in a heart-beat I need to eat your panties tonight or at your office tomorow...

hmm.. you get this non-sense topic to go away (or at least, get back to what it was really about when the thread was started), and you might have a deal! lol

 

[PoorGuy]

Well, since the topic is targeting the Asian women in micros, I'll try to explain a little.

In mainland China, the quality of life isn't certainly up to western standards, but in big metropolis' like Shenzhen, Shanghai, Beijing, Guang Zhou, etc etc any city with over 10 million people basically, everything can be had for cheap. A large bowl of beef noodle soup that would cost $4.50 + tax here is $6 RMB over there, which is $0.80 CDN.

I stayed in Shenzhen for two weeks for a wedding a year ago. My Uncle took me on a tour around the city and told me the average age of population there is 27-28. There were hundreds of thousands of young Asian girls there from every corner of China. One thing that is very different about the culture over there is that there is always an ubiquitus sight of a young women in here twenties at the door of a retail shop or restaurant. Basically they greet you into the business and open the door for you, or shout an invitation to get you in.

Now what surprised me is that a majority of these young ladies make only $100 to $200 RMB a week doing this. That's $14 CDN. To suppliment their income, they work in the saunas, spas, KTV's, or BBS's scattered around the city.

 

[PoorGuy]

KTV's are basically a bar/dance floor on the bottom floor and private rooms above. BBS's are barber shops (not kidding here) where there is a line up of young women sitting on the sofa in plain view and of course you do the usual of picking one and negotiate.

There are hundreds of saunas and spas in Shenzhen. Most of the customers are from Hong Kong. I went to one. I got a sauna room + whirlpool + 1 hour full body massage for $75 RMB. At a BBS, I got a full body massage and Russian finish for $120 RMB.

There's a lot of fierce competition, and of course the deal breaker is bang for your buck; SERVICE. My Uncle told me prices can start at as little as $200 RMB all the way to $1000 RMB for FS and a whole lot of hours. So that's $27 to $137 CDN. Guess what the local micros are charging? $140 CDN.

So you got to ask yourself, why are these Asian women in micros here in Metro Vancouver are all in their late twenties or thirties? Well, I think it's because they can't compete anymore back home. Everywhere I went, all the girls were in their early twenties. Don't ask me how they arrived here, being unskilled and flatlining in our "point" system, but one thing they bring over here is their service. I can only speak of the Chinese ladies.

 

[JV1]

Very interesting posts Poorguy. Lets expand upon it a little, using the $560 figure (8 @ $70 kept amount) we can see that an SP working at a micro can bring in $168,000 in 1 year working 6 days a week and with a two week vacation (560x6x50). This assumes that the client fees the SP pays to management also covers her accomadation and food and that all earned income is saved income.

The average annual income for a shenzhen china resident is 35,107 yuan (source http://english.sz.gov.cn/lis/lis1/ ) or $4,861.70 CAD at todays exchange rate from xe.com . That means 1 year in vancouver as a very busy beaver equates to 34.55 years of average wages if they return home with that money. Assuming the money is invested there only to the point of keeping abreast of inflation.

When looked at from this perspective the rate they are charging does not seem low at all, charging that rate and working that hard gaurantees modest financial independence for a long long time.

 

[JV1]

A question to the vancouver SP's who only see 1 or 2 clients a day. Would you do the same if the situations were reversed? If you could travel overseas to a country and see 8 clients a day, 6 days a week for 1 year and come back with $1,636,218.90 would you do it? (34.55 times $47,358 average gvrd income, source: http://www.gvrd.bc.ca/growth/keyfacts/avincpertxflr.htm)

 

[Krustee]

I was reading the Canadian Wealth Test thread & found a recent post by InTheBum:

Most SP's collect welfare and never claim a dime in earnings...

My question to all is;
Is there any truth to that?

Do most SP's collect welfare while they are working?

 

[FortunateOne]

I doubt it

I was reading the Canadian Wealth Test thread & found a recent post by InTheBum:



My question to all is;
Is there any truth to that?

Do most SP's collect welfare while they are working?

Most sps would want to fly under the radar, not in it. Being on welfare means being in the system, accountable to it. As a full time sp, that would be the last thing you would want.

 

[Krustee]

I don't think its a 'lack of taste'... everyone has a right to their persuasions. Like I said: I can, for sure, understand why a woman who had that kind of opportunity would do it.. it's their shot at drastically changing their life. It makes a ton of sense for them, and I can see that they'd be their family's saviour by doing what they do. If I was in their shoes I would too!

It takes a lot of guts, perseverance and strength to do what they do. I admire them for that!

Nina, do you agree with his assertion that the typical SP here is just doing this for their own need or wants & sustenance as inferred here:

There's much film references to a Asian Hooker's life, Fruit Chan's "Durian Durian" In caucasian culture, this would never happen. As most escorts are proud of their profession, because it's such easy money to satisfy their own material and survival needs. This is a part of the reason why I only goes to micros and have no interest in white girls.

 

[FortunateOne]

Nina, do you agree with his assertion that the typical SP here is just doing this for greed or selfish wants as inferred here:

satisfy their own material and survival needs.


In what way is he asserting this to be as greedy or selfish. When did a need for "survival" become a greedy act. By replacing the word "need" with "want" you have deliberately chosen to misinterpret and change his words.

 

[hugedman]

I don't believe he's inferring that the 'typical sp here does it for money only. He's referring to the imports.

I will say, without any question, that the reason many of the sp's I know, independent ladies, do it not only for money but for the connection and pleasure with their clients as well. I'm one of them. I love giving to my clients and love the zone I get into when I'm with them.

xoxo
Nina

Nina,
I really enjoyed reading your posts/threads.....and you always speak from your own mind, and always put things in a very perspective way...

You even tried to avoid answering the questions directly....; I understand that there are some independent ladies (SPs), who do it not only for money but for the connection and pleasure...however, many of them do it for their WANTS - such as:
(1) trying to be with the higher society - clothings, jewelries, etc...
(2) trying to satify their addicted habbits - sustances...coccains, cracks, etc...

Also, there are also SPs who claim to only see one/two (at most) client(s) per day...; in your honest opinion, given the opportunities to see more clients in one day (assuming these SPs do not have a day job), do you believe they would pass on these opportunities when clients call for service...?


What's your opinion on these?

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Some of these Micro chicks are sacrificing their body for the sake of their family. Family values is the truth in China, many of these girls came from hard labour or farmer families. They do what they do to send money back to China for their little brother or sister to get through education.

This is a part of the reason why I only goes to micros and have no interest in white girls.

What a selfless, noble deed. An example for us all!


Just out of curiosity.. What`s the other part of the reason?

Could it perhaps have something to do with the fact that it`s considerably cheaper to support the Micro girl`s brothers and sisters than, say,
some white girl`s education or kids (in the case of single mothers)?

No.. I know, of course not. It has nothing to do with that at all. Your reasons are honorable.. how silly of me to suggest otherwise.






Edit: Wow! You really DO take this cause seriously!... always finding new ways to help these girls and their family.
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=82536

 

[Miss*Bijou]

What's your opinion on these?

My opinion is WHY do you guys care SO much about a) our reasons b) our income c) how many clients we rrrrreally see d) whether or not some are on welfare e) whether or not some, all or none of us pay taxes.


Seriously guys, WHY do you even care? And do you really think SP's are going to enthusiastically rush to answer all these non-sense questions that are NONE of your business. That's my opinion.


If you guys are so bitter about the money we make (or you think we make ) and bitter about spending that kind of money.. then don't spend it. But spending it does not entitle you to ask for or expect any of that personal information.


Geeeeeez. Seriously! WHY do you guys even care?
Enough already.