Why some people NEED conspiracy theories

[JustCallMeR]

conspiracy offers the ultimate sense of belonging. With conspiracy, you join an insider group that alone knows what is REALLY going on.

I think that Oceanic has hit on something. There really are multiple reasons for the popularity of conspiracy theories.

There's the need to impose order / feel in control instead of feeling helpless when something bad that doesn't seem to make sense happens to everyone (the classic evil gov't / corporations / rich people are doing something horrible to us helpless innocent victims).

There's the power of being an "insider", part of the group that REALLY knows what's going on.

And I also think that there's an entertainment aspect to it. Everyone loves a good, juicy story of the evil villains doing outrageous things to us, ESPECIALLY when it's presented as being true!

The "true" possibility helps to capture the imagination (consider the incredible popularity of the DaVinci Code book).

For example, years ago Kentucky Fried Chicken changed it's name to KFC. The rumour spread like wildfire that the name had to be changed because they were genetically modifying the chickens so much that they could no longer legally still be called chicken. Thus they had to change their name to KFC.

Great story! Evil corporations doing unspeakable genetic things to poor helpless chickens until they were no longer even chickens! And then they sell those genetic mutations to us to eat!

Except, of course, Kentucky Fried Chicken realized that advertising "Fried" in the world of healthier diets wasn't a great marketing plan, and that the Kentucky Fried Chicken name was way too long. So they wanted something short, memorable and that didn't contain the word Fried. And yes, they do advertise the word chicken, there were no genetic mutations of chicken into something else and there is no law that would have forced them to quit calling it chicken.

But facts NEVER stop a great story!

So I submit that we should add great (supposedly true!) story telling to the list of why conpiracy theories are so popular.

 

[HB40]

I think you and that Silky dude should be banned to private messaging each other on anything to do with conspiracy theories, 9/11, politics, religion and words with more than two syllables

Easy trackstar, I think you could go to hell for that!

 

[HankQuinlan]

Name ONE national/global conspiracy that no one has ever found out about!
You can't can you?

Good one!!!

 

[HankQuinlan]

I think that oceanic and justcallmer have both pretty much covered it. All of those things make sense.

....except for those darn real conspiracies....

 

[JustCallMeR]

That's a healthy outlook, Nina!

I don't want anyone to think that I'm suggesting that all conspiracy theories should be ignored...

Historically, many conpiracy theories have been thoroughly debunked, a few turned out to be fact and we just don't know on a few others.

I think that most people are intellectually curious and are open to the various possibilities depending where the evidence takes them. That's an approach that I strongly support.

What bothered me about one or two of the most extreme conspiracy theorists on this board, was there was never any real intellectual give or take on issues that arose. It had to be only one way on all aspects of the issues, regardless of any evidence.

And that's what made me wonder about some that have a blinding "need to believe", no matter what...

 

[SilkyJohnson]

JustCallmeR POST SOME FUCKIN PROOF


i post links to my claims y dont u point links to yours.

The stock market collapse in 1929 was engineered by the Rockefeller family and others. They bought up all the infastructure for pennies on the dollar.

heres a LINK to prove what i am saying
http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/0...ered-the-1929-crash-and-the-great-depression/

BTW trackstar wtf is ur problem?? u liked Zeitgeist but u say i "augment" stuff to fit my arguement? such as what????

 

[SilkyJohnson]

hey JustCallMeR if u want an evil coporation y dont u google "Monsanto" and "Round up"

lets just say when pigs and mice eat this gmo food they develop tumors.

whats the cancer rate today in North America (with our first world health care) what 1 in 4 1 in 3?

 

[trackstar]

JustCallmeR POST SOME FUCKIN PROOF


i post links to my claims y dont u point links to yours.

The stock market collapse in 1929 was engineered by the Rockefeller family and others. They bought up all the infastructure for pennies on the dollar.

heres a LINK to prove what i am saying
http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/0...ered-the-1929-crash-and-the-great-depression/

BTW trackstar wtf is ur problem?? u liked Zeitgeist but u say i "augment" stuff to fit my arguement? such as what????

lol, you kill me! You're such an angry little guy! Pop a Mentos and relax dude

 

[SilkyJohnson]

u said i augmented stuff, what did i augment? tell me?

 

[trackstar]

u said i augmented stuff, what did i augment? tell me?

augment: 1 : to make greater, more numerous, larger, or more intense

You augment all of the sources you quote by adding your weight. You're in such a fighting mood that you're going to take anything stated as an insult or a challenge of some sort. You need to relax

 

[SilkyJohnson]

No time to relax. The economy will be shit in less than 2 years. Last depression 80% of ppl lived on farms or were self sufficient. Now its the opposite. I dont want it to be like Road Warrior.

 

[trackstar]

No time to relax. The economy will be shit in less than 2 years. Last depression 80% of ppl lived on farms or were self sufficient. Now its the opposite. I dont want it to be like Road Warrior.

I'll bet. I think that you'd be the first to go in a lawless society. Hubba, you'd be second

 

[SilkyJohnson]

hey i got my guns. just need some storable food and maybe some gold then i'll be ok. until the ammo runs out

 

[JustCallMeR]

JustCallmeR POST SOME FUCKIN PROOF

i post links to my claims y dont u point links to yours.

The stock market collapse in 1929 was engineered by the Rockefeller family and others.

I've learned to ignore Silky, but I'll make one response to illustrate how he works.

He states that the Rockefellers engineered the 1929 stock market collapse. According to PBS (linked below) the Rockefellers actually lost half their wealth in the collapse.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/rockefellers/timeline/timeline2.html

Also note that I link to reputable, well known independent sites and not other conspiracy sites and blogs, etc.

I previously posted links from major reputable sources on 9/11 that point out that anyone can look at the video of the building collapse and clearly see for themselves that the building collapsed (the floors pancaked down) from the level of the plane impact and pancaked downwards. The many videos of controlled building demolitions using explosives (anyone can find them, there are lots of examples online) have the floors collapse from the base (with the floors pancaking upwards) as the explosives are located at the base and blow out the supports on that floor. So the claim of explosives at the twin towers base is completely incompatible with what anyone can see looking at the many online videos of the towers collapsing.

You could possibly argue that it was still a conspiracy and that any explosives had to have then been placed at the floor that the plane would impact. But that gets very messy because the planes would have to make sure that they hit the right floor where the explosives are waiting, or the explosives would have to be moved up to the floor after the plane impact.

Silky also claimed repeatedly what engineers and architects, etc, etc have "all said". In each case I'd find the major American engineering and architects societies sites (and I'd post links to them), and they'd all say completely the opposite. Just like he just did with the claim about the Rockefellers causing the 1929 crash.

And on and on the arguments would go.

In the end, they claim that absolutely every independent but reputable organization under the sun (that was linked to) was involved in the cover-up (even National Geographic's detailed analysis!) and he would keep quoting other conspiracy sites or blogs.

Personally I always had my doubt about the incredible competence and ability of all of these organizations to organize such a thing and to pull it off and to keep it a secret, but that's just my opinion.

Usually his response is to call everyone a fool and to change the subject to "what about this conspiracy, or that conspiracy", etc, etc. Unfortunately it quickly became obvious that it was a complete waste of time...

But that blind "need to believe" (no matter what!) in every conspiracy under the sun, is definitely what got me wondering about this particular phenomena.

 

[SilkyJohnson]

You realize who owns PBS along with EVERY other mainstream news/media outlet in the world? 4 people one of them is Rupert Murdoch. They aren't going to tell on themselves. Stay away from mainstream media and see where it takes you. Look at what Bruce Willis said, "The same ppl that killed JFK are in power and have been running the world, the men behind the curtain" - Vanity Fair interview.

Fmr German Defense Minister 9/11 inside job
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=german+defense+minister+9/11&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#

Japanese Parliament. WTC collapse w/ explosives 33mins
http://video.google.com/videosearch...11&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#q=fujita 9/11&hl=en&emb=0

Richard Gage Architects and Engineers 9/11 inside job
http://video.google.com/videosearch...l=en&emb=0&aq=-1&oq=architects+and+engineers#

MIT Engineer WTC demolition
http://video.google.com/videosearch...ts+and+engineers#q=wtc demolition&hl=en&emb=0

Dr.David Ray Griffin NIST report debunked
http://video.google.com/videosearch...gineers#q=debunking 911 debunking&hl=en&emb=0

Barry Jennings WTC employee RIP(died last week, but his family wont talk, i wonder y)Pre collapse explosions and dead bodies in WTC 7. Even video of inside WTC 7. Looks fine to me just lots of DUST, not smoke DUST
http://video.google.com/videosearch...ts+and+engineers#q=barry jennings&hl=en&emb=0

I could go on all night. You said if explosives were placed where the planes hit that would fuck up the explosives. Very true, did you forget the rest of the building was wired? All 110 floors. And that would take months to set up un-noticed. Which is why all the firemen heard explosions from time of airplane crash to collapse.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...CkJZrUqAPKl7TkCw&q=wtc+explosions&vt=lf&hl=en

You'll figure it out. Did you even go to the Richard Gage presentation at the Art Gallery? Maybe 30% of ppl thought it was inside job at start of his presentation. By the end it was 95% inside job. But you don't need to be an architect to figure this stuff out.

 

[SilkyJohnson]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...qYG4z-qAO54OGYCw&q=wtc+demolition&vt=lf&hl=en

the good stuff starts at about 2:45

 

[chris2008]

I think Silky is quite serious here.

Instead of complaining, tell us what we as normal citizens can do about bringing out the true evil doers of society.

hey i got my guns. just need some storable food and maybe some gold then i'll be ok. until the ammo runs out

 

[chris2008]

Silky, that was your best line yet!!!

I dont want it to be like Road Warrior.

lol..classic. that was funny.

No time to relax. The economy will be shit in less than 2 years. Last depression 80% of ppl lived on farms or were self sufficient. Now its the opposite. I dont want it to be like Road Warrior.

 

[trackstar]

Silky, that was your best line yet!!!

I dont want it to be like Road Warrior.

lol..classic. that was funny.

Sad thing is, he wasn't trying to be funny

 

[SilkyJohnson]

See trackstar is awake and he knows what i mean. BTW have u seen the new zeitgeist? Addendum? Is very good. No religous stuff.