The Top Ten Things I Don't Understand on This Board

[Avery]

Here, in no particular order, are my top 10 things I don’t understand about topics that appear on this board and other similar boards. I’m not looking to participate in any flame wars here. I genuinely don’t understand these things.

Street girls – why would anyone want to take a chance with a street girl? You run a high risk of being ripped off, catching an STD, being mugged, arrested or having your car impounded. You’ll probably pay less for a classy escort, and almost always get way better service.

Greek – Sorry, but I fail to see the attraction in slamming my salami (or any other body part for that matter) into the last several inches of another human being’s digestive tract. I tried it once, a long time ago, at my then ladyfriend’s virtual insistence – I wasn’t impressed; in fact, I was grossed out. It didn’t feel any better than it did in the place close by that Mother Nature provided specifically for that purpose, either. Never again, no matter how many enemas the lady takes.

Rimming, aka analingus, aka bumalingus – See my comments on Greek, only now it’s my tongue. Yuck! And I don’t expect this service from the ladies either.

Digits – I can’t for the life of me understand why so many guys ask if a particular SP permits digits. Giving digits to a woman does nothing for me, although it might for her if I do it right. My fingers are not an erogenous zone, so I only do it if asked or if I’m absolutely sure she wants me to. In any case, I don’t base my decision to see a lady on whether or not she permits digits, nor do I decide not to repeat if she doesn’t.

Sex in Strip clubs – It doesn’t make sense to me to pay for several dances and then receive some form of sexual service in a booth or cubicle where others may see what’s going on. For the same money, you can probably see an escort in a safe, private place.

MP HJ’s – To a certain extent, I can understand the appeal of a session that also includes DATY and a BS, definitely FS, but I can’t understand the appeal of a session that consists only of a perfunctory massage followed by a HJ. Why pay someone just to jerk me off? The way I see things, if all I want is a handjob, I can always do it myself. After all, it’s not as if I never have!

Milk and body waste fetishes – I can see the sexual appeal of the enlarged boobs, but a woman’s breast milk? Not me! Breast milk is perfectly natural, but I fail to see anything erotic about it. And don’t tell me it’s not really strange to get turned on by having someone pee or crap on you. Yuck!!

BDSM – I don’t understand any link between pain, whether received or inflicted, and sexual pleasure. Even if no one is actually harmed, I just don’t get it. Soft and tender, ramping up to energetic, and back down to soft and tender is the only way for me.

Genital piercings – Recently, I clicked on a link to a web site featuring male genital piercings. One photo showed a penis with 11 barbells inserted (it’s called a ladder). Another showed a penis with a paintbrush inserted right through the head. You’ve got to be kidding!

And last…

Judgmental posts about SP’s – There have been many posts in which the male posters have been extremely preachy and judgmental about SP’s, calling them whores, greedy bitches, etc. The posters seem to think they’re qualified to preach to the sinners from a position of moral superiority, even though most of them are hobbyists themselves. Get a grip, guys! There’s no moral high ground here! I pay women for companionship and sex, and women provide them to me for money. What right do I have to feel superior? Absolutely none, nor do you!

 

[Quarter Mile'r]

Sex in Strip clubs – It doesn’t make sense to me to pay for several dances and then receive some form of sexual service in a booth or cubicle where others may see what’s going on. For the same money, you can probably see an escort in a safe, private place.

JackFrost might have some input on this one!!


And last…

Judgmental posts about SP’s – There have been many posts in which the male posters have been extremely preachy and judgmental about SP’s, calling them whores, greedy bitches, etc. The posters seem to think they’re qualified to preach to the sinners from a position of moral superiority, even though most of them are hobbyists themselves. Get a grip, guys! There’s no moral high ground here! I pay women for companionship and sex, and women provide them to me for money. What right do I have to feel superior? Absolutely none, nor do you!

Gotta agree with you on this one, they are human beings too, regardless
of there choice of occupation.


................QM'r

 

[Ilovethemall]

brilliant post

Well said on all issues.

 

[Avery]

Hey, don't knock it! Vanilla is the most popular ice cream flavour, by far.

Besides, if I were truly vanilla, I wouldn't be a hobbyist at all, would I?

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

Different strokes for different folks

 

[Commander Chode]

The activities you list are not specific to this board, they are activities of general client behavours and requests.

But ignoring the misleading title, this thread doesn't cover the most important question, "Why?".

Why does activities between a client and SP interest you?

None of these activities directly effect you. Unless you are a psychology student studying sexual practices and fetishes, why even waste a second thinking about it?

There are different people in the world, about 6 billion of them. I don't have the time to wonder what all of them do to get off.

 

[dittman]

the big money to be made in the sex industry is the kinky stuff, the kinkier it is the more money you will make.

 

[Avery]

The activities you list are not specific to this board, they are activities of general client behavours and requests.

That's a bit picky, but OK, I could have chosen a more accurate title. In fact, my post is one I copied (and edited slightly) from one I made on TERB three years ago.

Why does activities between a client and SP interest you?....None of these activities directly affect you...

Because, like every other member, I read about these activities on PERB all the time, and some of them leave me scratching my head.

 

[Sweetiepie]

I thought...

..it was a genuine question. People write about things here that they don't write or talk about elsewhere. No harm in asking. For me, I went through a spell of being into all that stuff just for the sake of being bad. I mean, doing the forbidden things made it better. But after it didn't feel forbidden anymore, the extra thrills just kind of wore off. I am curious about others, too.

 

[Commander Chode]

That's a bit picky, but OK, I could have chosen a more accurate title.

I don't have the time to read every post on this board. I rely on subject lines to determine what I read. If you are going to type a 52 character subject line please spend a second to make it accurate.

I was expecting a rant on the software or posting styles, not a fetish descussion.

In fact, my post is one I copied (and edited slightly) from one I made on TERB three years ago.

Because, like every other member, I read about these activities on PERB all the time, and some of them leave me scratching my head.

You've been scratching your head for three years?
Stop worrying and live and let live.

 

[panzer-jager911]

..it was a genuine question. People write about things here that they don't write or talk about elsewhere. No harm in asking. For me, I went through a spell of being into all that stuff just for the sake of being bad. I mean, doing the forbidden things made it better. But after it didn't feel forbidden anymore, the extra thrills just kind of wore off. I am curious about others, too.

Amen to that!

I started out pooning reletively young (try the crossing over of 19 to 20.. is that young?) Anyway, Doing things for the fact that they are forbidden gave those things an edge. A somewhat 'no-one-else-does them, so-that-makes-you-special" feeling.

5 years boared on and I've shaken and shedded that skin and in a way, I feel much better...yet the residuals still linger.

Guess all I can say is everything in moderation and don't force stuff like rear-admirals, and analingus, and Sheizer-eatery on people who don't offer it (for the SPs) and or people who don't believe it.

And again, people who don't like that stuff...their opinions are valid, BUT!!! People who do like those stuff isn't all bad! (I'm talking about the Jehovah's Witnesses...)

I'm not going to hell just because I like to poon! But I am going to hell because I pick on the Jehovah's Witnesses

 

[HaywoodJabloemy]

MP HJ’s...I can’t understand the appeal of a session that consists only of a perfunctory massage followed by a HJ.

Some guys can only cum from HJs, and/or don't like condoms. If that's all they want, why pay for more?

 

[georgebushmoron]

heheh you seem like a very vanilla guy And thats ok!

I'm a Neapolitan kind of guy!

 

[Avery]

I don't expect everyone to have the same tastes, likes and dislikes as I do, and I'm not judging anyone. However, I was curious to see what some people find appealing about the activities I described.

 

[hitrack]

I would say it's all about being the exact opposite of a vanilla guy.

Most guys see hookers cause their old ladies turned into the equivalent of humping a dead whale. They want some excitement, some reason to restore their faith in the fact that sex is fun. Banging your old lady like you were following a high skool sex education pamphlet might be cool for unkinky vanilla guys. But hopefully you can drum up a bit more imagination than this, and for that your hurtin old lady may not do....this is where a hooker comes in.

Hell thats what she's there for, thats what your paying 300 fukkin bones for. Fukk her ass and give her a reach around for christ sakes. Suck on every inch of her body, get the toys out, get the various food items out, jiz all over her like she was a huge glazed donut!!!!!

As for the street chick thing, ahhh I couldn't give two fukks if anyone even knows what Hastings st. is let alone ever go down there.

 

[maverick73]

1. Street girls – why would anyone want to take a chance with a street girl? You run a high risk of being ripped off, catching an STD, being mugged, arrested or having your car impounded. You’ll probably pay less for a classy escort, and almost always get way better service.

Greek – Sorry, but I fail to see the attraction in slamming my salami (or any other body part for that matter) into the last several inches of another human being’s digestive tract. I tried it once, a long time ago, at my then ladyfriend’s virtual insistence – I wasn’t impressed; in fact, I was grossed out. It didn’t feel any better than it did in the place close by that Mother Nature provided specifically for that purpose, either. Never again, no matter how many enemas the lady takes.

Rimming, aka analingus, aka bumalingus – See my comments on Greek, only now it’s my tongue. Yuck! And I don’t expect this service from the ladies either.

Digits – I can’t for the life of me understand why so many guys ask if a particular SP permits digits. Giving digits to a woman does nothing for me, although it might for her if I do it right. My fingers are not an erogenous zone, so I only do it if asked or if I’m absolutely sure she wants me to. In any case, I don’t base my decision to see a lady on whether or not she permits digits, nor do I decide not to repeat if she doesn’t.

1. It's cheaper. With care, you greatly reduce risk of being ripped off. With due care, STD risk is essentially the same as with incall provider. After all, pooners who see SW's also tend to see SP's... and therefore it all gets spread around. As for being mugged, not if you leave your wallet in the car. Arrested... not if you take the necessary precautions. You'd be surprised that some SW's provide a comparable service to SP's. There's a reason why guys like Hitrack exist. If you take all his precautions, you can have a similar experience to an SP, but SW's tend to not be as nice looking... they tend to be rough due to all the drugs and shit they gotta put up with on a daily basis. That one reason why I quit SW's (as well as SP's). As VeeVee would say, give them a $10 or $20 bill for their next hit of crack, or buy them some food, but don't expect them to suck your cock for it.

2. Greek. It's tighter, but more importantly, it's psychologically naughty and dirty. A girl that "takes it in the ass" is inherently more slutty than a girl that does not. We as humans desire things we cannot have. Most girls don't do greek, and therefore it's a turn on when a girl does. It can also play a nice role in consensual nonconsensual sex. Role play of "violating a girls asshole" can be a huge turn on. The idea is that the girl is turned into a complete and utter submissive "fuck hole" for your pleasure only and pretends not to like it, but there are many nerve endings in there and coupled with vaginal stimulation, can provide an incredible experience for the woman as well. Just make sure it's all cleaned out.

3. Rimming - I've only tried it a few times, but this actually feels really good. I recommend doing it in a bubble bath... that way u don't taste any shit whatsoever. Women asses tend to be cleaner at any given time than a man's, even if he's just taken a shower, wiped his ass with soap like he was sawing in a logging competiiton, and then double wiped with toilet paper after for good measure... it's almost like a man's ass is a 24/7 crap factory. That is why I recommend the bubble bath.

4. Digits - because the male penis is usually not curved in an L pointing up, most women have a hard time coming through vaginal penile sex. With a finger, two, three, or four, you can curl your fingers up and find her G-spot. Women can have really intense orgasms from digits if done right, sometimes more intense than with a straight penis. With a penis, I find that in order to make the girl cum consistently, you need to have her legs in between yours with you on top... so that your penis is sort of angling in to hit her G spot on top. This is a difficult position for the male and it's hard for the male to come in this position, but it seems to be great for women. I personally like high heels on my shoulders like a slut while I pound away at her while grabbing her hair ("who's whore are you bitch?" "I'm your whore, your whore!" ) That position also enables you to DFK her, so you can alternate between romance and degrading dirty talk.

 

[American Male]

I can give you my answers to a couple of these, Avery. Remember, I am only speaking for myself and do not claim to be offering a standard answer.

Street girls

A SW represents the most basic form of sex for money. It is the most primal. It is the most adventerous. I like to occasionally make the hobby more about adventure and not just about having sex. The SW respresents danger, intrigue, sleeziness, BJ's in doorways, the chance of getting caught or being seen. Certainly not for everyone and not my cup of tea everyday either. Just once in a while, I fella needs to feel his heart pounding fast and to breath quick and shallow.

Digits

I enjoy watching and listening to a woman get off. The occasionally use of the well-trained digit against the G-spot or to stimulate the clit in just the right way is the most tremendous turn-on I know of. I appreciate the SP who affords me the opportunity to pleasure her to some small degree. I can also appreciate why many SPs do not provide this service. I can only imagine the potential for damage, as in scratches, etc, to tender vaginal and clitoral skin from multiple touches from rough fingers. Before seeing your local SP, fellas, clip your finger nails and take care of those hang nails as well. Ouch!!!

MP HJ’s

Let me give you an analogy. I am not always hungry for steak when I go out to eat. Sometimes, a burger is good enough. In fact, sometimes a burger is just right. FS with an SP is the steak of the hobby. A HJ at a MP is the burger...minus the fries.

Judgmental posts about SP’s

I agree about judgmental postings. I need a clarification here, however. Do you think of a negative review as being judgmental? Because if you do, then I disagree. A negative review is simply to suggest that the level or kind of service received was not up to the expections of the hobbyist. Granted, in some cases, this is the fault of the hobbyist for not communicating with the SP. In that case, the SP is really not at fault. But there are SPs who regularly provide less than adequate service and it is for the benefit of our fellow pooners that we post negative reviews concerning this.

Hope this provides you some insight into my motivations. It may provide some idea into the motivation of a few others as well.

 

[Avery]

Excellent and interesting responses, AM, and right on point in every case.

I agree about judgmental postings. I need a clarification here, however. Do you think of a negative review as being judgmental?

Not at all. I was referring to name calling and unkind and unnecessary comments about appearance - for example, calling someone a "greedy bitch", rather than saying she didn't provide good value, or calling someone a "fat cow", rather than saying she was a lot larger than advertised.

Actually, I find negative reviews much harder to write than positive ones, because I try to focus on what was wrong, rather than take the easy way out and attack the SP.

 

[Ilovethemall]

a gentleman

Avery, you are a gentleman, the cynics out there will say it is all semantics but I applaud your tact.

 

[American Male]

Not at all. I was referring to name calling and unkind and unnecessary comments about appearance - for example, calling someone a "greedy bitch", rather than saying she didn't provide good value, or calling someone a "fat cow", rather than saying she was a lot larger than advertised.

Actually, I find negative reviews much harder to write than positive ones, because I try to focus on what was wrong, rather than take the easy way out and attack the SP.

I suspected this is what you meant, Avery. I agree completely. In fact, recently an SP who pays to advertise on Perb and who works in another western city, travelled to Van and posted her visit and offered some nice deals to guys who wanted to see her. I contacted her and we spent a good portion of one evening on a messaging service, messaging back and forth, and we made plans. She's a really sweatheart, a real lady, and a very sexy woman. However, she received several PMs from some of our fellow Van Perbites telling her to go home and to not come back to Van, because she is what they call "Fat" and "Ugly." Trust me, she is far from either. She was so hurt over the incident, she cancelled her appointment with me at the last minute, because she was not in any mood to provide services. I understood her reason for cancelling, but I really feel as though I missed out an a great evening of fun as a result.

I really did not understand this attitude or that kind of response. If you find the pics of an SP on their website to be unattractive, fine. To each his own. You don't have to spend your money to see her. But why go the extra step of showing yourself to be the jack-ass you really are by being insulting and humiliating another human being by calling them fat and ugly.