Phone, email, send a letter to obama tell him to stop the keystone pipeline

[Fudd]

If you value our environment please help and support our opposition to the Keystone Pipeline. Call, write a letter or email to the President tell him to save the Earth.



Thousands rally in D.C. against Keystone Pipeline

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/02/17/16996283-thousands-rally-in-dc-against-keystone-pipeline?lite

Thousands of protesters took to the National Mall on Sunday for a climate rally that organizers touted as the largest of its kind in U.S. history. The group’s top priority was to urge President Barack Obama to reject the proposed Keystone XL pipeline that would carry tar sands from Canada through the United States.


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[rexxx]

Keystone or not there will be a pipeline in Canada regardless

 

[uncleg]

Bring on the pipe....................

 

[johnniejetpack]

I use my car for my work every day, and based on the number of cars on the road every day, I would say lots of other people do too. We need affordable gas so we can make a living!!! I am all for the environment, but let's get realistic. Anybody that has an affordable and available alternate energy source please put up your hand!!!!

 

[jesuschrist]

Thanks for the link, I'll send Obama an email to ignore the protests and go ahead full speed with developing of the pipeline.

Anything the USA can do to have energy independence, the better for world peace. Currently because of the American dependence on foreign oil, many many wars have been fought and many innocent civilians have died.

If you care about the lives of your fellow human beings, if you care about world peace, support this pipeline!

 

[uncleg]

 

[blueberrymuffin]

Fudd, I'm sorry to break the news to you, but the government is a joke. Our opinion means nothing to them. If it makes them money, they will still do it.

If you want change, we would have to kick out the people in charge by force. I'm afraid there's no other way around it. Our so called "democracy" is an illusion.

 

[huggzy]

Why is it that Canada doesn't refine its own oil and export it worldwide rather than allow foreign interests to profit from the value added process. I don't fucking get it.

 

[bcneil]

Its a done deal at this point Fudd. Regardless if some pooners from Vancouver shoot him an email.

I also don't think its realistic at all, at this point, to expect Alberta to decide to just let the oil sands close.

You are better off owning TRP stock. I have had some since 2005 in my portfolio, added more in 2009 and 2012.
Its an easy stock to own, buy it and forget about it. Then when you are older and no longer want to ride your bike around downtown, you will have funds.

 

[jesuschrist]

Why is it that Canada doesn't refine its own oil and export it worldwide rather than allow foreign interests to profit from the value added process. I don't fucking get it.

Because our cost of labour is too high for one. Second, we would have to endure that cost of labour to create the refineries, which would be too costly because of that cost of labour. Then, once we have those refineries, our cost of labour would drive up the processing costs.

It's the same answer as to why we really don't do anything with our logs except cut them and ship them somewhere else to make the end product. We don't have much of a manufacturing sector because of our cost of labour. Blame the unions and high taxes!!!!

 

[huggzy]

Because our cost of labour is too high for one. Second, we would have to endure that cost of labour to create the refineries, which would be too costly because of that cost of labour. Then, once we have those refineries, our cost of labour would drive up the processing costs.

It's the same answer as to why we really don't do anything with our logs except cut them and ship them somewhere else to make the end product. We don't have much of a manufacturing sector because of our cost of labour. Blame the unions and high taxes!!!!

Since when is our cost of labour that much higher than the US? I don't buy that argument for one second.

 

[canuck33660]

Thank god for the recession in the US.

Keystone will go thru for sure.

Hydraulic factoring will start up in California to tap into additional oil reserves.

The environment bullshit only works in good economic times when people are working and well fed and they have time dabble in such nonsense.

Now that the American people are going to have to decide between real jobs or listen to those idiots geenies.

GUESS WHICH SIDE WILL WIN.

Can't wait to see the drilling start up right in the back yards of all those moronic environmentalists.

Hey Fudd ..... looking goood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Horse99]

Obama is already bought and paid for....so save your emailing the potus.....good way to get on the Secret Service watch list too.

 

[dojin]

Because our cost of labour is too high for one. Second, we would have to endure that cost of labour to create the refineries, which would be too costly because of that cost of labour. Then, once we have those refineries, our cost of labour would drive up the processing costs.

It's the same answer as to why we really don't do anything with our logs except cut them and ship them somewhere else to make the end product. We don't have much of a manufacturing sector because of our cost of labour. Blame the unions and high taxes!!!!

I think that is quite disingenuous when salaries (in general) haven't gone anywhere for decades (not even keeping on par with inflation).
It is about profit margins and a race to the bottom.

And as far as taxes, I believe they have been going down over the years except for the general populace where our hidden taxes like user pay fees on services are ramping up like crazy.

 

[jesuschrist]

I think that is quite disingenuous when salaries (in general) haven't gone anywhere for decades (not even keeping on par with inflation).
It is about profit margins and a race to the bottom.

And as far as taxes, I believe they have been going down over the years except for the general populace where our hidden taxes like user pay fees on services are ramping up like crazy.

Where oh where do you get this idea that union salaries "haven't gone anywhere for decades", nor have kept par with inflation???? No union would tolerate salaries that do not keep up with inflation at some interval!

I don't know what you mean about it being about profit margins and a race to the bottom, but I'll hazard a guess: we can't tolerate the slim margins for us because the rest of the world can produce the products at a lower cost. In other words, we can't compete because our costs are too high - and the principal cost in production is typically labour.

Taxes may have gone down - a bit - but user pay fees and hidden taxes have ramped up, I agree. But it is because of this that labour unions ramp up their demands because they believe their wages should be pegged to inflation. That is in itself the problem: they see inflation, they raise their wages, we get more inflation, and the cycle spirals out of control - until whole industries die off and move offshore, which is precisely what has happened.

 

[dojin]

Where oh where do you get this idea that union salaries "haven't gone anywhere for decades", nor have kept par with inflation???? No union would tolerate salaries that do not keep up with inflation at some interval!

I don't know what you mean about it being about profit margins and a race to the bottom, but I'll hazard a guess: we can't tolerate the slim margins for us because the rest of the world can produce the products at a lower cost. In other words, we can't compete because our costs are too high - and the principal cost in production is typically labour.

Taxes may have gone down - a bit - but user pay fees and hidden taxes have ramped up, I agree. But it is because of this that labour unions ramp up their demands because they believe their wages should be pegged to inflation. That is in itself the problem: they see inflation, they raise their wages, we get more inflation, and the cycle spirals out of control - until whole industries die off and move offshore, which is precisely what has happened.

I put in "general" next to the salaries as I am talking about as a whole vs labour just from unions. As far as competition, it is not excusable for manufacturing/lumber/etc companies to be given huge tax credits for machineries and such (not to mention an endless tax deferral) when they are hording away capital gains instead of hiring. As far as union salaries go, they can be from ok to detrimental to the company. The same goes for executive salaries which tie into bogus performance gains that strip away the foundation of a company (i.e. car manufacturers' union employees and executives).

Its a bit of both worlds. Also, I am quite sure (my opinion), even without unions, companies would of shipped the jobs overseas as well. A temporary stock gain for shareholders and a performance increase for the execs. There is no way a worker here can be "competitive" and live in a 1st world country.

Finally reducing taxes for large business (notice i didnt say small business), does jack shit. eg. Carole Taylor's capital gain's tax removal for banks which saved BC bank branches 100 million locally and ironically killed 1600 jobs. And those stupid hidden user pay fees and taxes, that's a huge money grab that seems to go nowhere .

 

[dojin]

And to OP:
Not going to bother sending Obama anything. The recent bills he has been signing that strip away freedom like crazy...yea he is just another useless figurehead controlled by industries "too big to fail". That includes most of our govt in Canada too.

 

[connor666]

Fuck stopping the pipeline, get that bitch built ASAP.

Oh shit, gotta cut this post short as my baby seal dinner is getting cold.

 

[satinguy]

Sorry Fudd,

Won't be happening, like many others i support the pipeline as it is good for Canada and our economy.

I could care less if a bunch of D-list clebrties like Daryl Hannah and Kevin Bacon don't like it.

Billions in Revenue and jobs at stake and it is called the OIL SANDS, only the uneducated Americans or NDP call it tar sands.

This thing will get built regardless of what people here in Canada want or don't want.

If you value our environment please help and support our opposition to the Keystone Pipeline. Call, write a letter or email to the President tell him to save the Earth.

 

[ThisEndUp]

Fudd, I've sent my email to O'bama in support of the pipeline, and also of shore oil exploration

Somehow I find bloody oil much more offensive than what we canadians are producing, or the americans could produce