Personal Information Requests

[JustCallMeR]

Calgary Pooner, I just feel stupid that I took you at face value and tried to help...

You specifically started this thread and made very specific claims including references to blackmail. I just regret that I didn`t clue in much earlier.

After doing a search on your history (which I should`ve done much earlier), not only have you pulled this stunt, but you`ve attacked Tiffany for having posters on this forum on her payroll, gone after Euro SZabina, and indicated that "If she is over 30 or 32 or so, it creeps me out".

You also complain of forum "attacks by hookers against guys and in particular newer guys to the https://perb.cc".

No, that doesn`t happen generally, it`s seems to just happen to you.

As far as I`m concerned, you`re done.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Calgary Pooner - you may wish to consider:

 

[CalgaryPooner]

she takes CC's and paypal so perhaps the info she requested related to that.

Bingo. You on on the right track. Anyway, dead issue as it is apparently not on to question such practices. Thought this was a useful thread for discussing and with two good examples. It has not taken on a very positive direction in spite of everything I have posted here being 100% accurate.

Sorry for an negatism it has created.

My point remains, it was strange to be asked for that much information on two occasions and I remain curious if it is a very unfortunate trend. Those who have responded with an open mind have helped me understand at least half of my experiences.

 

[CalgaryPooner]

Calgary Pooner, I just feel stupid that I took you at face value and tried to help...

You specifically started this thread and made very specific claims including references to blackmail. I just regret that I didn`t clue in much earlier.

After doing a search on your history (which I should`ve done much earlier), not only have you pulled this stunt, but you`ve attacked Tiffany for having posters on this forum on her payroll, gone after Euro SZabina, and indicated that "If she is over 30 or 32 or so, it creeps me out".

You also complain of forum "attacks by hookers against guys and in particular newer guys to the https://perb.cc".

No, that doesn`t happen generally, it`s seems to just happen to you.

As far as I`m concerned, you`re done.

I have not "gone after" anyone. If you want to take things out of context in anyone`s posts, you can form anything you want with them. I notice you neglected my reviews and other contributions. Guess they didn`t fit your preconceived ideas. Also didn`t know you could read my personal messages.

Like I say just above, I really appreciate the insight I have from some on this topic.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

Banking information is useless to anyone without a PIN, signature card and valid ID to assure the card holders identity matches that in the account. All Angel could do with your banking information is make a deposit into your account. THAT'S IT!

For processing credit cards through an electronic transfer system such as Paypal or Neteller, the funds can only be received by Angel via transfer of a specific amount transferred from your account. Angel can't access your account and retrieve more money at all. This is done through email very fast, effective and requires many steps to confirm the right amount is going to the right person. There are many chances for the transaction to be cancelled if need be.

 

[jjinvan]

I think my attitude about the whole thing is quite fair.

I wouldn't give a girl any information she wouldn't give me in return.

So, here's a question for the girls who feel that they need certain personal information about a guy..

Are you ready to provide the same information in return?

(before anyone goes on a rant about girls getting raped or abused or killed, keep in mind that guys have also been robbed, beaten up, threatened with 'hiv infected' needles, threatened with being 'outed', stalked, harassed, arrested and on and on and on...)

 

[CalgaryPooner]

I think my attitude about the whole thing is quite fair.

I wouldn't give a girl any information she wouldn't give me in return.

So, here's a question for the girls who feel that they need certain personal information about a guy..

Are you ready to provide the same information in return?

(before anyone goes on a rant about girls getting raped or abused or killed, keep in mind that guys have also been robbed, beaten up, threatened with 'hiv infected' needles, threatened with being 'outed', stalked, harassed, arrested and on and on and on...)

Point I was trying to make and you did it a lot better than I did and you haven't been accused of having it in for anyone. Well done!

I contend I am not giving anything out I wouldn't give a pal and I don't give my buddies information that I was asked for in the instances noted.

Well THAT settles it.

 

[Mr.O]

Your not supposed to...

I think my attitude about the whole thing is quite fair.

I wouldn't give a girl any information she wouldn't give me in return.

So, here's a question for the girls who feel that they need certain personal information about a guy..

Are you ready to provide the same information in return?

(before anyone goes on a rant about girls getting raped or abused or killed, keep in mind that guys have also been robbed, beaten up, threatened with 'hiv infected' needles, threatened with being 'outed', stalked, harassed, arrested and on and on and on...)

... SAY THAT!!!!!!!

What are you....

Politically Incorrect???

 

[jjinvan]

Everything I need to know in life I learned from South Park, Al Bundy and Archie Bunker.

 

[necko]

In Vegas 5 yrs ago, I was asked real name by agency befor escort would return phone call, once it was agreed she would come over agencey called me and wanted banking imfo even thou I said I'm paying cash was told this was to ensure I could afford the lady I replied I had the cash here with me she would get it on her arrival, nope they needed this up front I said no thanks, I'd make other arrangements that night I received all sorts of calls fr ladies willing to come over and see me without my banking imfo, non of these calls were solicited by me after the first agency I just figured fuck it forget it.

 

[athaire]

Calgary Pooner - you may wish to consider:

Calgary Pooner.......you certainly know how to turn the girls on this board off with your prose and bad attitude. Funny but the last couple of threads I've read your on both getting into it with the ladies? WTF?

 

[therealrex]

In defense of the lady you contacted in Seattle - full name and verifiable work information or references for other established independent ladies are the norm for reasons we are fortunate enough not to have to worry about in Canada.

I've travelled to the states numerous times and giving your real name is standard and I've even had to show my plane ticket a few times but the idea of telling an escort company where I work is laughable. I can't imagine anyone being willing to admit that

 

[Miss*Bijou]

I've travelled to the states numerous times and giving your real name is standard and I've even had to show my plane ticket a few times but the idea of telling an escort company where I work is laughable. I can't imagine anyone being willing to admit that

Although I don't request that information, I've had quite a few clients initially contact me using their work email account or tell me what they do or where they work. Even more contact me using their real name.

I've had one gentleman tell me he'd contacted me using his work email so I could google him and know right away he was who he said he was and would be more comfortable about meeting him. He then asked me to use his private email account for further communications.. I think that shows good faith.

I can simpathize with someone's reservations about providing too much personnal info but when I try to call someone back at a hotel and my call will not get put through because they did not give me their real name, I get a little annoyed at the lack of appreciation for the potentially risky situation I am about to put myself in. Yes, in the states you would be required to divulge your real name and show proof of that. You trust her enough re potential health risks but not enough to provide your name?

If you are not comfortable providing the information an SP may require, then perhaps it's better to look for another. Period. IMHO I don't think it should be up for debate.

And I'm glad someone called CalgaryPooner on his posting history.. I was going to do it myself but given the fact that he's been attacked by numerous SP's...

 

[CalgaryPooner]

Calgary Pooner.......you certainly know how to turn the girls on this board off with your prose and bad attitude. Funny but the last couple of threads I've read your on both getting into it with the ladies? WTF?

Agreed and not my intention. I am posting to share information with other GUYS. The question in this thread was to GUYS as I doubt many of the girl posters have this happen to them when and if they try to arrange a session where they are paying for sex. On any post, I am not "getting into it" with anyone, male or female. I am offering up my point of view or opinion in an open and honest fashion. If the posts as a whole are read and not little snippets, the actual point I am making might actually get taken and not obscured by some preconceived notion. In any event, my opinoins are mine and mine alone and I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with them (nor even really care about them). I find this board very informative and it is very well moderated from my limited experience of having to do similar on another site (totally different topic). Funny thing is, when guys are talking about cars they are almost as passionate as when talking girls. Difference on the other site, very rare for a poster to not be male (street cars perhaps a really immature male thing, who knows) and I honestly didn't expect it to be so different on a site for sharing information about getting some variety in the Calgary scene (and other cities).

Again not my intention whatsoever. Is there someway to post similar questions with a "guys input only please" or similar?

BTW, thanks for using the word "prose" to describe my writing. That is a first for me in anything I have ever written.

 

[athaire]

Agreed and not my intention. I am posting to share information with other GUYS. The question in this thread was to GUYS as I doubt many of the girl posters have this happen to them when and if they try to arrange a session where they are paying for sex. On any post, I am not "getting into it" with anyone, male or female. I am offering up my point of view or opinion in an open and honest fashion. If the posts as a whole are read and not little snippets, the actual point I am making might actually get taken and not obscured by some preconceived notion. In any event, my opinoins are mine and mine alone and I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with them (nor even really care about them). I find this board very informative and it is very well moderated from my limited experience of having to do similar on another site (totally different topic). Funny thing is, when guys are talking about cars they are almost as passionate as when talking girls. Difference on the other site, very rare for a poster to not be male (street cars perhaps a really immature male thing, who knows) and I honestly didn't expect it to be so different on a site for sharing information about getting some variety in the Calgary scene (and other cities).

Again not my intention whatsoever. Is there someway to post similar questions with a "guys input only please" or similar?

BTW, thanks for using the word "prose" to describe my writing. That is a first for me in anything I have ever written.

lol........well you do have a certain flair.......

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

...Is there someway to post similar questions with a "guys input only please" or similar?...

Sure, that would be great but how would anyone know other than the ladies you speak of know if you were embellishing a few facts?

 

[Sweetiepie]

Just out of curiousity, Calgary Pooner, why do you only want guys' opinions? Are you not interested at all in the female point of view or what? Just curious as to why you limited the desired responses.

 

[jjinvan]

The way I see it, this thread is more about the IDEA of giving personal info, and which specific personal info, etc...

The mistake that was made, was to give any specific examples and name the SP involved. The thread didn't need any SP names to serve its purpose.

After all, there's no point in 'warning' guys that a certain SP asked for banking info (if she did), even if she did ask that of a guy who had no desire at all to provide it, he could simply say 'ok then, buh bye' and hang up. No need to 'save' him from wasting the few minutes it takes to make the phone call. Also, if a girl was acting like that and lots of guys just told her to forget it and hung up, she might get the hint that maybe it wasn't her best long term plan.

Maybe I'm a strange kinda guy that way, but I've never given ANY girl my full name until the 3rd or 4th date, nevermind ever giving it to a girl I'm not actually dating romantically.

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

Maybe I'm a strange kinda guy that way, but I've never given ANY girl my full name until the 3rd or 4th date, nevermind ever giving it to a girl I'm not actually dating romantically.

Does a first date involve giving you THEIR address, buzz code and apartment number so that you can come up and have sex with them?

I read your early post about what you perceive as equal probability of danger (rape vs beating by a pimp) and are you seriously kidding? What kind low end SPs are seeing that you perceive that as a serious risk equal to that of a woman inviting total strangers in to her place? Get a clue. While I don't always agree with your posts I generally find you to be a very intelligent man.

 

[jjinvan]

Does a first date involve giving you THEIR address, buzz code and apartment number so that you can come up and have sex with them?

I read your early post about what you perceive as equal probability of danger (rape vs beating by a pimp) and are you seriously kidding? What kind low end SPs are seeing that you perceive that as a serious risk equal to that of a woman inviting total strangers in to her place? Get a clue. While I don't always agree with your posts I generally find you to be a very intelligent man.

To answer your first question: About half the time . But usually it's to come up and get them to take them to wherever we are going, the sex comes when I bring them back home (if it does). On first 'romantic type' blind (or semi-blind) dates I always offer to meet in a public place somewhere, like at the restaurant or theatre or whatever where we are going. If they have a hard time with that idea, I ask them if they honestly think I'm going to murder them in front of a restaurant full of witnesses... If a girl is THAT paranoid, I'm not so interested in a date... Most of the time they just say that they'd rather if I picked them up at their place.

Secondly, I never said 'equal risk', just that it happens. The problems I've had (not in a long time, as I've been careful since I had them) had more to do with stalking, calling up my secretary and asking her questions about me, showing up at my work and asking questions about me, etc.. all in the name of 'being careful'...

Once I had a girl who actually wanted my full name AND the name and phone number of my 'boss' at work, that she could call up and verify. Do I have to tell you that I told her to take a hike?

I will add, also, that I guess I give off a 'safe vibe' because I've never had a girl ask me for any info other than what time I wanted to see her, and for how long and (in the case of overnights or travel together which is my usual preference for companionship) where are we going?

One thing that some girls have asked was the name (or PERB ID) of a girl who I'd seen before as a reference. I have no problem whatsoever with this request as it isn't any sort of imposition on me, but I do call up the girl I'm going to 'give as a reference' and ask her if it's ok first. Some girls have also told me when they met me that they 'talked to another SP' about me, without me having given her as a reference. I don't mind that either.

I'd actually suggest that for any guys who are being given a hard time, if you have a girl that you've seen a few times and gotten along with, especially one who is 'known' by many of the other SPs, ask her if you can use her as a reference for others.