It is a strange title for a thread and in this case I have put two topics together because they totally encompass what life and existence means to many of us.
I have always contenplated what is the meaning of life,why are we here and what is our purpose as I think most of us do at different time in our life. For me as a introvert loner it is a constant exercise .My favourite saying is "I think there for I am" .A saying I often attributed to Decart but which goes back two malinum or more and was even expressed in some manner by Aristotle .It has been a subject of much debate and philosophysing. It has as much religious aspect as it does human evolution overtones but I am not writing so much to day to debate this say ,although it influences how I think and believe.
I have recently had to realize my mortality because of a cancer diagnosis. I was not totally surprised to find out I had cancer and it was something I have always had to consider I could get ,after all as we are there now is a 1 out of every 2 people that will have cancer and over half of them will die from the effect of it or the effects of the so call treatment. What it has brought home to me is to ask the question what is my life and what do I live for?
I find it hard to gauge against other people's life because each person has things that are uniquely their own circumstances that bring them to form their own beliefs ,character,talents and abilities.Plue their own identity and the persona they want to project in public or evenwho they think they are.Often our own delusions of grandeur ,our self-esteem or lack of,but never the less there are over 7 billion unique individuals on this planet we call home .Even though many gather them selves together under their eithanisity and nationality caused by man made imaginary boarders or all so hold similar spiritual ,religious and political belief ,we each still are different from each other in how we look,act and what is the way we live the life we have.
For me I have few regretted of what I did in my life or what I believed .I wish I had done more and lived life more fully and yet I lived and seeked the things I want based on my hopes ,abilities and the circumstances I lived in.And in many ways my understanding of life at the times is what influences how I acted and evaluated my existence just like everyone else.We try to do the best we can for our selves and others that we care about and respect. Of there are those that seem act for their own self-interest and use any body and every thing for there own selfish agenda. Yes sickness abounds in many forms.and that truly is the most destructive to humanity and other.It is what causes use to change too when we have to adapt our own thinking to comprehend the crazy unknown aspects of life and others actions against our own path in life.
I am not writing this to tell my life story ,I tell much of that in other treads posted. And in that sense you all have interesting lives that the story should be told about. We are all unique and have a identity that is all our own.An identity that we have made for ourselves through the years of living and absorbing what we like ,how we think we should behave,how we like to dress,our personality and our fears and dislikes. It a very complex matrix that we build into who we think we are and the persona that we want to project to other. I doubt ifbut all was all original,we seem to pick parts of who we are from other people tgstvwe associate with or empathise with , from public figure ,musicians,actors and the character they portray. What we see as entertainment or distraction form our own life also influences us and what we make it our self.
Deffinetly all though thing influences and change the societies we live in and course use to change aspects of ours self over and over again ,rethinking who we are and who we want to be.
I know I some times i try to put on a more rugoes persona them who I actually am although did manual labour most of my life I can't say I was physically suited for it..and also would like to dress in good well during tailored close and enjoyed good food. The two different sides if me.
Where I differ from many people is I don't really follow worship music or so called stars.I may be interested in a number of public people but because unlike there personality which I try to know as much of as I can to see the good and the ugly. In the case of Clint Eastwood I like the character he plays in moves and definitely some of that is him and yet I see the other side if him too the charming womanizer that I think actually cares for then all but also can drop them like a rock after yrs or a short time fling. But their a very talented guy. I took part of his persona as my own lol. Another would be Harrison Ford character in Indiana Jones. Which in many way is Harrison Ford, the abventurious kluts stumbling through life and having enough talent make it through any adversity .And he actually is another multi talented person and a carpenter just like me lol. And a well accomplish pilot although a little accident prone. I also has a pilot licence. What I love is wearing leather bomber jackets, that's where the rugged comes from. And there also my father who I got some of my traits from too and which are probably more prominent them I would liked to believe.
That the case with everyone they get a lot of their identity from family ,from the family they are born in to and to the family they make later in life.And those are many of the things that make living important , that give purpose and meaning to life.If you don't have them or lost the family connection or just never been able to nurture that need then life can lose purpose and meaning as with me .
I have tried to compensate for that lack of relationship and family and in a small way inexperienced some of it through the friendship and type of relationships I did make. But they were and are kind of fleeting and strange when compared to the norm.Of course I am not big on the normal and have my own perspective on life which at not always fit in but then I never needed to fit in and I enjoy that aspect of being on the out side looking in and being able to observe the world with out being noticed. It is part of my unique existence.
Enevablly no matter what kind of life we live or how we enjoy it , it comes down to the fact that we are mortel and this life we have become attracted too will end . Whether it us the end of us in a spiritual senses and of our existence , that is where as humans we have builtmany beliefs to explain the birth of life and death ,all to help us cope with the fear of the unknown.For those they believe they have one life, they are born from nothing,they live life the fullest they can and then we die .And then there is nothing after .I look at that as much a belief as any other and if it helps them accept death and make living less fearful while still thinking they had purpose then that is great and i won't tell you your wrong .Because I can't prove any thing to the contrary. But for a large majority off people in this world they have a belief of some kind of spiritual life after death and a new life of resurrection or reincarnation. I share parts of the same belief with known spin on it and that's what brings me some peace when facing my death.
I honestly think that my spirit has lived other lives and will come back to live another life .I don't particularly believe in the religion of heaven and he'll or of God figure, I beleave more in spiritual entity that we all are part of but are uniquely individual which we retain from life to death and back to life again if we want.And usually we want to return because as spirits we can't create or experience or evolve our thinking .And if we don't live on then all the experience we had are lost ,our identity.
Admittedly that just one idea that us made from but of many and I admit to believing in part of Christianity where it pertains to a Jesus lived at some time and had a message. It was a good truth and life leason but is the one the bible tells us real message. I beleave itches been altered to suit an religious agenda. But I'll hold to the word that Jesus said that if you beleave then there is life after death.Yes for the biblical scholars the message is worded differently. I just toke the religion out of the saying.As for is it true that Jesus is a live ,if it is then I will be too ,and if it is not I won't know or care because all me or you ever was or would be is gone forever. With maybe only a small remembrance of a grave stone and as long as the family and friends remain live.
I have always contenplated what is the meaning of life,why are we here and what is our purpose as I think most of us do at different time in our life. For me as a introvert loner it is a constant exercise .My favourite saying is "I think there for I am" .A saying I often attributed to Decart but which goes back two malinum or more and was even expressed in some manner by Aristotle .It has been a subject of much debate and philosophysing. It has as much religious aspect as it does human evolution overtones but I am not writing so much to day to debate this say ,although it influences how I think and believe.
I have recently had to realize my mortality because of a cancer diagnosis. I was not totally surprised to find out I had cancer and it was something I have always had to consider I could get ,after all as we are there now is a 1 out of every 2 people that will have cancer and over half of them will die from the effect of it or the effects of the so call treatment. What it has brought home to me is to ask the question what is my life and what do I live for?
I find it hard to gauge against other people's life because each person has things that are uniquely their own circumstances that bring them to form their own beliefs ,character,talents and abilities.Plue their own identity and the persona they want to project in public or evenwho they think they are.Often our own delusions of grandeur ,our self-esteem or lack of,but never the less there are over 7 billion unique individuals on this planet we call home .Even though many gather them selves together under their eithanisity and nationality caused by man made imaginary boarders or all so hold similar spiritual ,religious and political belief ,we each still are different from each other in how we look,act and what is the way we live the life we have.
For me I have few regretted of what I did in my life or what I believed .I wish I had done more and lived life more fully and yet I lived and seeked the things I want based on my hopes ,abilities and the circumstances I lived in.And in many ways my understanding of life at the times is what influences how I acted and evaluated my existence just like everyone else.We try to do the best we can for our selves and others that we care about and respect. Of there are those that seem act for their own self-interest and use any body and every thing for there own selfish agenda. Yes sickness abounds in many forms.and that truly is the most destructive to humanity and other.It is what causes use to change too when we have to adapt our own thinking to comprehend the crazy unknown aspects of life and others actions against our own path in life.
I am not writing this to tell my life story ,I tell much of that in other treads posted. And in that sense you all have interesting lives that the story should be told about. We are all unique and have a identity that is all our own.An identity that we have made for ourselves through the years of living and absorbing what we like ,how we think we should behave,how we like to dress,our personality and our fears and dislikes. It a very complex matrix that we build into who we think we are and the persona that we want to project to other. I doubt ifbut all was all original,we seem to pick parts of who we are from other people tgstvwe associate with or empathise with , from public figure ,musicians,actors and the character they portray. What we see as entertainment or distraction form our own life also influences us and what we make it our self.
Deffinetly all though thing influences and change the societies we live in and course use to change aspects of ours self over and over again ,rethinking who we are and who we want to be.
I know I some times i try to put on a more rugoes persona them who I actually am although did manual labour most of my life I can't say I was physically suited for it..and also would like to dress in good well during tailored close and enjoyed good food. The two different sides if me.
Where I differ from many people is I don't really follow worship music or so called stars.I may be interested in a number of public people but because unlike there personality which I try to know as much of as I can to see the good and the ugly. In the case of Clint Eastwood I like the character he plays in moves and definitely some of that is him and yet I see the other side if him too the charming womanizer that I think actually cares for then all but also can drop them like a rock after yrs or a short time fling. But their a very talented guy. I took part of his persona as my own lol. Another would be Harrison Ford character in Indiana Jones. Which in many way is Harrison Ford, the abventurious kluts stumbling through life and having enough talent make it through any adversity .And he actually is another multi talented person and a carpenter just like me lol. And a well accomplish pilot although a little accident prone. I also has a pilot licence. What I love is wearing leather bomber jackets, that's where the rugged comes from. And there also my father who I got some of my traits from too and which are probably more prominent them I would liked to believe.
That the case with everyone they get a lot of their identity from family ,from the family they are born in to and to the family they make later in life.And those are many of the things that make living important , that give purpose and meaning to life.If you don't have them or lost the family connection or just never been able to nurture that need then life can lose purpose and meaning as with me .
I have tried to compensate for that lack of relationship and family and in a small way inexperienced some of it through the friendship and type of relationships I did make. But they were and are kind of fleeting and strange when compared to the norm.Of course I am not big on the normal and have my own perspective on life which at not always fit in but then I never needed to fit in and I enjoy that aspect of being on the out side looking in and being able to observe the world with out being noticed. It is part of my unique existence.
Enevablly no matter what kind of life we live or how we enjoy it , it comes down to the fact that we are mortel and this life we have become attracted too will end . Whether it us the end of us in a spiritual senses and of our existence , that is where as humans we have builtmany beliefs to explain the birth of life and death ,all to help us cope with the fear of the unknown.For those they believe they have one life, they are born from nothing,they live life the fullest they can and then we die .And then there is nothing after .I look at that as much a belief as any other and if it helps them accept death and make living less fearful while still thinking they had purpose then that is great and i won't tell you your wrong .Because I can't prove any thing to the contrary. But for a large majority off people in this world they have a belief of some kind of spiritual life after death and a new life of resurrection or reincarnation. I share parts of the same belief with known spin on it and that's what brings me some peace when facing my death.
I honestly think that my spirit has lived other lives and will come back to live another life .I don't particularly believe in the religion of heaven and he'll or of God figure, I beleave more in spiritual entity that we all are part of but are uniquely individual which we retain from life to death and back to life again if we want.And usually we want to return because as spirits we can't create or experience or evolve our thinking .And if we don't live on then all the experience we had are lost ,our identity.
Admittedly that just one idea that us made from but of many and I admit to believing in part of Christianity where it pertains to a Jesus lived at some time and had a message. It was a good truth and life leason but is the one the bible tells us real message. I beleave itches been altered to suit an religious agenda. But I'll hold to the word that Jesus said that if you beleave then there is life after death.Yes for the biblical scholars the message is worded differently. I just toke the religion out of the saying.As for is it true that Jesus is a live ,if it is then I will be too ,and if it is not I won't know or care because all me or you ever was or would be is gone forever. With maybe only a small remembrance of a grave stone and as long as the family and friends remain live.
