How much to offer an SP for a sleepover

InTheBum

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Tuula has a big hairy pussy!

Somehow I doubt you will ever have that problem and I can safely say that alot of ladies here wouldn't even see YOU for $2000 a night.
FYI - I already stayed the night with an SP for free! I highly doubt anyone on this board can say that, without sucking up to the SP for months and having countless sessions!!!

Tuula, you belong in the circus sweetheart...with your big hairy pussy!
 

muffdiver

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man are you ever dumb. just have her come to your hotel at 12:00 midnight for a 1 hr. session. have her close the door tightly as she leaves and you drift off to sleep.

next morning at around 6:00 AM have her return, knock on your door, ruin a very good sleep, and you let her in while in a very drowsy state. then you have another 1 hour session of sleep numbed sex with her and you have all you wanted without the paying for you both to sleep part. any combination of departure and arrival times will work if you are tired enough.

or....get a girl friend, just forget the whole sex part, give her $2000. to go shopping while you sleep.
Too funny, but smart. Just too add , before she leaves for the night she could place a blow up doll wrapped in a heating blanket ( for that cozy feel ) next to you.
 

kelli

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Tantalizeme.

I always enjoy the lengthy reviews you write. They are very informative, polite, interesting, intelligent, arousing and classy.

Having said that, I want to extend my compliments to your polite and reasonable replies to the above threads.
Once a class act, always a class act.
I want to say ditto...and then to tell you Gentl-man that your response was most thoughtful and intelligent.

My thoughts...
I appreciate how expensive this hobby is for you gentlemen. It felt awkward for me to charge $1400 for an overnight the first time. Until I actually experienced my first overnight. It is more work than you think, and the evening was spent with a beautiful man who I enjoy very much. It wasn't sex then a whole lotta hours sleeping. It was sex, more sex, more sex and then a whole lotta not sleeping while he lay and farted his night away (OK not literally but he did sleep soundly). When finally, through sheer exaustion, I started to drift...it was morning and time to have sex again. Don't get me wrong, I love sex (clearly) but I do like to sleep and my whole next day was a write off as I was exhausted. That is why I don't consider overnight rates up to a couple of thousand unreasonable...if you can afford the luxury.
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kelli
 

gigidy gigidy

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a night for free, not a big deal, find the right girl.

FYI - I already stayed the night with an SP for free! I highly doubt anyone on this board can say that, without sucking up to the SP for months and having countless sessions!!!

Tuula, you belong in the circus sweetheart...with your big hairy pussy!
Well no real sucking up. Just a nice close connection between two people. Spent several nights at her place. Say 10pm and wake up and spend most the day together. Lots of sex,cuddles,kisses,conversation,smiles,laughs, just hanging out. Took place all summer. As of late it i have been scaled back for all you other guys enjoyment at night time, your welcome!!! LOL....Something about her roomate being uncomfortable with my excessive visits, yeah im sure thats the reason, not bitter.hehe But still spend unrushed days together. An SP for free! huh! wow! just another person, i think it is nice when you become friends and can enjoy evenings or days never being a rate.
 

Krustee

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I want to say ditto...and then to tell you Gentl-man that your response was most thoughtful and intelligent.

My thoughts...
It was sex, more sex, more sex and then a whole lotta not sleeping while he lay and farted his night away (OK not literally but he did sleep soundly). That is why I don't consider overnight rates up to a couple of thousand unreasonable...if you can afford the luxury.
xx
kelli
Yo, you & me should kick it sometime fly-girl cuz I would'nt make youz have sex all the time,
Yo, there would be plenty of time to chill while I entertain you with my B-boy break beat moves.
I've got an abstact style with lotsa downrockin & freeze.



Just to mix it up I'll let ya clean my bathroom, wash the dishes, vacuum & do some laundry.

Then, for some Roman skills, you can feed me grapes with a slingshot.

After that maybe a little Command & Conquer eh?
(that's where we pretend your Greece & I invade you from the rear!)
It's all good yo!
 
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This is how I see it.

When you are paying her for "social time" what you are paying for is for her to feign interest in you (not all men are sexy & charming) AND you are paying her for her time, because if she wasn't with you, she would be seeing other clients at a higher rate. What you are really paying for in this sense is for her to not be having sex and making money with someone else.

The sleeping thing is tricky. I recently had a situation where I would be spending the evening and night with a gentleman for 2 nights in a row and I was free to do what I wanted during the day as he wasn't paying me for my time except when I was with him. I had a couple of appointments booked for the day between the two over night sessions. Alas for a variety of reasons, this arrangement proved to be impossible. Chalk it up to sleeping incompatibility or whatnot but I managed to get a grand total of 2-3 hours of incredibly lousy sleep, and put my back out because of the contorted position I ended up sleeping in. So I had to cancel the day's appointments and spend it at the chiropractor and massage therapist (that's a substantial amount that I was out because of the situation). I simply could not do that two nights in a row so we settled up and went our separate ways which left me out another substantial chunk of change. Had this fellow been a pleasant or even tolerable sleeping companion I would have been up by quite a bit, but instead I made far less than if I had just worked 2 normal days. But those are the risks we take.

YMMV is a huge factor and it abundantly clear that if a SP enjoys a certain client's company his mileage increases dramatically. If you request a sleepover with a lady, even a regular, and she quotes her listed rate, it's fair to assume that your business relationship has not reached the point of enjoyment or comfort for her that she's willing to forgo other clients (lost income) for your company alone. This is why we keep our "social" rates as high as they are... it leaves room for negotiation (because you'd all be crying foul if her listed rate was $50/h but when you requested her time she said it was $100/h). If she feels a connection with you she can quote you a different rate.
 

SexyBoy

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Who said anything about sleep?

j/k

It is true some people are not compatable in the sleeping department. I love a girl that is compatable though in that area.
 
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Sleepover....what a stupid idea! Its basically replacing 1 or 2 hr of fantasy with 8 hrs of reality. Reality aint pretty.
 

ThighMan

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Oceanic has made some good points. Also, you should make sure you are clear on your motives or reasons for wanting her to sleep over. If you are hoping for it to develop into more than a customer client relationship then you should be careful. Dating a SP definately has its upsides, but the downsides are there and often lead to unwanted results.
 

bigmoe69er

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Oceanic

Your question mentions her working at an amp. There is a vast difference between an amp worker and an indy SP. All of the prior answers are from the indy SP viewpoint. The answer to "How much?" from an Asian amp worker is different. Your offer was to change the equation from an amp customer to a more personal relationship and she accepted. This sometimes happens in an amp and each of you runs the risk of being the fool. If she treats you as a boyfriend and gives sex for free, she may be seen as foolish and lose face to her co-workers. If you fall in love and provide lavish gifts, then you may be played for a fool. If she is playing you now, then "How much" means "How big of a sucker are you?" If she is honestly attracted to you and looking to take your relationship outside of the amp, then "How much" means "Is your offer sufficient to save face if things don't work out." Unlike the indy SP, she is not missing any customers either before or after your appointment. She'll get off work, meet you at 1:00 am, and return to work at 12:30 pm the following day. Won't matter if she had a good night's sleep or not. I think that $500 is about right. Not enough to appeal to her greed, not so cheap as to insult. If she accepts, be a gentleman and let her get some sleep after the first fuck. Good luck!
Oceanic, your perspicacious understanding of the Asian scene is astounding. Keep up the good work!


---Dr. Moe
 

tantalizeme

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You must not know the value of a dollar dude, once I come I lose so much attraction to the person. You sound like you would make a good husband if you want them to stick around after you shoot.
It gets extremely dull after the sex. Probably offer 500.00 for a sleep over cause im getting very little out of it.
Thanks, honda7661 & LittleAsianGuy for your honest reaction to what must seem like an utterly naive venture on my part. I'm still a little conflicted myself, but not because I dread the prospect of post-coital tedium.

What about savoring the afterglow with a relaxed cuddle before drifting off into a blissful snooze and perhaps even a sweet dream or two? Why does this possibility not tempt you at all??

Both of you sound like bright, sensitive, communicative guys whose provocative posts I admire—and with whom I'd love to share a chat over a beer. I certainly agree, navigating relationships with women is fraught with frustration and rejection.

Setbacks lead to bitterness, and bitterness leads to more setbacks, and the vicious cycle is complete. Sometimes we end up resenting women for needing them so much...
 

tantalizeme

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This thread has taken on quite a life

Wow, I feel several thank-yous are in order—to some beautiful people who’ve shed light on a topic that seems to trouble not just me alone.

GENTL-MAN, good to know I’ve a kindred spirit out there, with a terrific sense of humor, whose thoughts on the joys and tribulations of this amazing hobby always resonate with me.

KELLI, thanks for a glimpse from the “opposite” side of the sleepover equation. It tells me I need to allay my SP's fears that I expect “sex, more sex, more sex...” Next time maybe you, too, might want to clarify the guy’s expectations beforehand. In the light of your post, here’s what I might say to her: “I want you to know, I expect sex just once or twice maximum. If you’re not too tired, perhaps we can try before falling asleep, and hopefully after we wake up. Is that okay?”

ISABELLE, kudos for speaking your mind bluntly. I like your sobering thought:
When you are paying her for "social time" what you are paying for is for her to feign interest in you
As your experience shows, an overnighter is a potential nightmare...not only due to sexual miscommunication but also “sleeping incompatibility.” But it's encouraging that posted overnights rates are often negotiable for clients with whom a sufficient level of comfort has been established (though I imagine haggling about this could also easily become awkward).

Frankly, though, I was surprised that you—a no-nonsense provider with tons of experience—should allow any male of the species to make you sleep in a contorted position that put out your back, rather than taking charge in a relaxed way while asserting your right to be comfortable. (BTW, a very affordable massage place I enjoy visiting, where a non-sexual body massage costs just $37, is Big Feet at 7950 Granville/604 266 6080.)

OCEANIC, you're impressively perceptive about internal politics at an AMP—I’ve begun to notice rivalries among providers myself. As you suggest, I’ve decided simply to offer her five browns and let her take it or leave it.

AULD BALL, you seem to be the definitive voice of authority. I agree that money by itself rarely guarantees the best possible time with an SP unless we can also establish a bit of conversational and emotional rapport. I thank you for helping me realize that making the donation partly dependent on how often we end up having sex is a terrible idea.

I like your concept of “au natural” service, which I take it means just going with the spontaneous flow of things, without imposing any kind of preset plan. It’s also interesting to me that you get offers for extended services from your SPs without asking; you must be quite the suave Mr. Irresistible (I mean that sincerely). And it’s sad for me to hear that, even with SPs, familiarity breeds contempt—one of the main reasons why I’ve personally resolved to shun the world of monogamous commitment... You say even SPs often begin to treat their regulars with disrespect: I wonder how common this experience is among pooners?

Thanks a lot for all the informed contributions to make this a helpful, meaningful thread.:) :) :)
 

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Put ad in Craigslist

Put an ad in Craigslist (erotic) section and see what happens..
Have done this many times in Vancouver paying up to 1200 but usually between 800-1000 for 8 hours. usually having a few drinks first then some fun, then sleep then of course moring fun...
This always happens with non-pro's that really just need the money for rent etc...
Always share many e-mails together first or talk on the phone. Pro's usually don't care and just want to book you ASAP but non-pro's want to exchange e-mails or phone calls many times before meeting. Get their real pics...

Forget the pro's, go get the real fun... This works in Vancouver and always outcall...
I rarely repeat, as it never seems as fun the second time. Besides this is about NSA fun.. Girfriend experience for one night only. The next time I find a new girlfriend :)
 

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Oh and to add one more thing to my comments, if you want to stereo type, how about we all say that YOU are FAT, BALD, SMELL REALLY BAD, have NO TEETH and have limp dicks .... I didn't think so, so please quit stereo typing all of us.
Tuula2, you have such a unique, stylish way of offering your opinions.

Just when I thought this long, at times interesting, informative and yet controversial post appeared to come to a successful ending, you decided to add your "stereo typing" comments directed at all the guys.

Granted, some of us probably fit one or two of your "labels", but I'm sure not all of us fit all of them.

Personally, I'm not FAT, not BALD - but "thinning", don't SMELL REALLY BAD- actually I don't smell at all, and I do have TEETH, and not the type that are like stars and come out at night.

But I do have to admit that I have a limp dick. Actually I was born with it, and I quite like it that way.

I can't imagine the pain and suffering I would have to endure if I had a constant hard on. Fashion styles of men's pants, shorts, swim wear are really not designed for that. Athletic garments like wet suits, football and hockey uniforms and the protective cups would not generate the greatest comfort, not to mention the awkward feeling of standing in a crowded elevator.

But it is nice to have my own confidence that limp dick has the uncanny ability to convert to a hard dick whenever the occasion is warranted, and sometimes even when there is no warranted occasion.

Dicks come in all shapes, sizes and colors - but they all have one thing in common. They are the lightest thing in the world. Even a thought can raise them.

Keep smiling.
 

aznboi9

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Dicks come in all shapes, sizes and colors - but they all have one thing in common. They are the lightest thing in the world. Even a thought can raise them.
LMAO, that's one of the best lines I've read in a while.
 

O-Shoes

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Wow Tuula, aren't we hostile.

Agreed, some non-pro's are most likely pro's. I was actually talking about the ones that don't really call themselves anything. Just ladies that do this once, twice, maybe three-four times a year... They are always ladies replying to my ad. I am not replying to theirs..

Usually amateurs do not advertise unlike yourself!
 

Fullhouse

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You obviously don't read my posts enough to know better than I'm being sarcastic and esp the last part of my post in the second part of my msg. What part of "I don't think so" which translates into I don't believe that's true , don't you understand?
Tuula2, if you read my post, I don't think you'll find a comment that says that I think you believe or don't believe what you said in your previous post about stereo types.

In my reply to you I made this comment:"You decided to add your "stereo typing" comments directed at all the guys."The rest of my comments in my post were just personal observations or info.

I do believe that that is a true comment. The "stereo type" comments were written by you - unless someone else is using your handle. And I truly believe that they were indeed directed at the guys, because I don't think (heaven forbid), that there are many female SPs on this board that are equipped with limp dicks.

Tuula2, just in case you do know of any limp dick equipped SPs, please PM me their names so I can move them further down on my "to do list".

And yes, I am being sarcastic, because by your own admission you practise that skill with joy.

Keep smiling
 
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