How Many of you Guys Negotiate

taiga

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I tried negotiating at those micros, but then so many of my fellow Perb pooners tell these girls to go indy and charge more. :confused:

No wonder many of these places are better off staying off the radar. :eek:
 

agentman

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I haven't yet negotiated a price with an SP. I pay the price asked. I just want to know for those who do, don't they worry about the quality of service going down when asking their regular SP's (mechanical, diminished mood, rushed out)?
Let me know what you think.
 

HowieMeeker

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agentman said:
I haven't yet negotiated a price with an SP. I pay the price asked. I just want to know for those who do, don't they worry about the quality of service going down when asking their regular SP's (mechanical, diminished mood, rushed out)?
Let me know what you think.
Does the quality of your car go down when you negotiate for it? Does the quality of any service you hire around the house go down when you negotiate?

If SPs were honest, they will readily admit to negotiating when things are not hopping and/or they have had a cancellation etc. It is a tried and true practice for the experienced pooner and those of you who think they get better mileage or whatever by paying full price all the time, well...good luck with that. :)
 

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Gee this old tread comes to life.

I think haggling and negoatiatng is silly, have no interest in it, just as tipping is only for minimum wage workers not professional sexworkers.

To me its very simple. If they are over $200/hr I have no interest in, won't call, don't care how wonderful or beautiful. I only go with those with good reviews and know what their rate is usually from their website without having to call. If I have to call to find there rare, they will never hear from me.

This is why I have no interest in Vancouver and instead enjoy the great gals and under $200 usual rates in Victoria...or Hamilton...or Niagara Falls..or the Eastern Europeans in Toronto..or the wonderful French Canadians in Montreal.

Makes it quite simple and still have huge number of options.
 

HowieMeeker

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sexygirl said:
Keep in mind dave those agency girls in Victoria (where i started) are only making $70-90/hour. They see as many guys as they can; sometimes upwards of 10 men in a 12 hour shift.

No thanks.

I moved to Vancouver and my standard of living increased and my stress level decreased. Less clients; more money makes one a much better escort.
So...that is $700 to $900 a shift is the "only" they are getting. At even three shifts a week............ :)
 

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sexygirl said:
oh don't skew the facts Howie. These girls are barely getting by after book on fees, advertising fees, agency fees, cleaning fees, late fines, no-show fines, driver fees, laundry fees, phone lady fees and on and on.
Was only quoting your "the girls only get"....if it is a lower number out of the $160 an hour, then quote that number. I didn't skew diddly, I used YOUR numbers. :rolleyes: Figured you would know what the take home was better than I would..... :)
 

HowieMeeker

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sexygirl said:
Read my posts again howie. I said $70-90/hour not $160.
Most girls are lucky to see one guy in a 12 hour shift, often none and a lot of them are single moms. So after the baby sitter and the driver to get home, she actually lost money going to work. Very sad.
The Victoria rate (I live here, I know) is about $160. YOU were the one that said, and I quote, "making $70-90/hour in a 12 hour shift". YOU typed that. If you want to go back on what you stated and then bring up the baby sitter, driver (why the fuck can't SPs ever drive themselves, bike or even bus is beyond me.....they are like rap stars and need drivers to and from work? :confused: ) etc. etc. Fact remains, if you want to go back and change what you said in the first place, fine, but the rates are about $160 per hour of which, you claim, the SP gets $70 to 90 an hour for a 12 hour shift ....... in which she sees 10 men.

Go ahead and change your story....but bringing up all the expenses (which, other than the "driver", everyone else has and has to take care of too...many on a LOT less than $70 to $90 an hour) is not central to the point you seemed to be making.

Go back to arguing about how much you are worth in a week. You yourself, in another thread, said about $8000 to $10000 for the week....even if you only worked 40 weeks working your "ass off", that is still upwards of $350K. Gee, not bad....you can even likely afford a "driver". :)


........interesting to see you arguing these two sides today in different threads.....one claiming Matt Cooke money (OK, old contract) and the other, poverty line once the babysitter and "driver" are paid. :rolleyes:
 

HowieMeeker

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sexygirl said:
You are splitting hairs.

Believe what you want. I worked there. You did not. I was a top booker and made good coin, but many of the girls do not. It is sad.

Uh, no I am not. You made some pretty interesting claims in one post and quite contradictory in another. You also quoted some stats about hour earnings and hours worked. You did that, we only pointed it out.

What we can both agree upon is that many of the situations the girls find themselves in is a hell of lot worse than "sad". :( That is something that I know better than you...no matter what you think that I 'believe'. :(

However, I guess you are OK making $8000 to $10000 during a "busy" week. :)
 

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sexygirl said:
I always thought your avatar was one of the best i saw. :) bye
Liked yours too....except the team jersey was one province out of whack!

Bye yourself. :)
 

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HowieMeeker said:
(why the fuck can't SPs ever drive themselves, bike or even bus is beyond me.....they are like rap stars and need drivers to and from work? :confused:
Here are some reasons:
1. Many don't have a car.

2. Even if they do have a car, for many outcalls, the driver also acts as "security."

3. A long bike ride probably makes their pussies smelly ;).

4. Bussing isn't conducive to making the SP "feel good about herself." Let's face it. Many SP's (not speaking for all, so please hold the flames) don't feel good about their line of work (hence the alcohol, drugs, etc.) and at least being driven around like a movie star is better than being forced to take the bus. Many find public transportation "demeaning."

5. Unless they are getting dressed at the outcall location, dressing like a porn star or whatever the client requested does not facilitate riding a bike or taking public transit without getting stares :).
 

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maverick73 said:
Here are some reasons:
1. Many don't have a car.

2. Even if they do have a car, for many outcalls, the driver also acts as "security."

3. A long bike ride probably makes their pussies smelly ;).

4. Bussing isn't conducive to making the SP "feel good about herself." Let's face it. Many SP's (not speaking for all, so please hold the flames) don't feel good about their line of work (hence the alcohol, drugs, etc.) and at least being driven around like a movie star is better than being forced to take the bus. Many find public transportation "demeaning."

5. Unless they are getting dressed at the outcall location, dressing like a porn star or whatever the client requested does not facilitate riding a bike or taking public transit without getting stares :).
Another reason is that in the case of a psycho client, he doesn't get a chance to see the girl's private vehicle and license plate number.
 

maverick73

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dbrw42 said:
Another reason is that in the case of a psycho client, he doesn't get a chance to see the girl's private vehicle and license plate number.
Yes and no. If the girl was smart, she would park around the corner or 1 block away and walk. A lot of the drivers will also do this to avoid getting their license plates noticed... or even the make of their vehicle. Coming to think about it, the typical SP would never walk 1 block. That would be too much work! :rolleyes:
 

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maverick73 said:
Yes and no. If the girl was smart, she would park around the corner or 1 block away and walk. A lot of the drivers will also do this to avoid getting their license plates noticed... or even the make of their vehicle. Coming to think about it, the typical SP would never walk 1 block. That would be too much work! :rolleyes:
Parking a block away wouldn't be that safe. Wasn't there an SP a while back that was chased down the street by some customer and his family? How many SP's could outrun a guy while wearing heels? Plus a psycho client could easily run down a back alley to get to her car before she does.
 

maverick73

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dbrw42 said:
Parking a block away wouldn't be that safe. Wasn't there an SP a while back that was chased down the street by some customer and his family? How many SP's could outrun a guy while wearing heels? Plus a psycho client could easily run down a back alley to get to her car before she does.
Yes, that would be Monique.

She could always run away first and come back for the car later (assuming she gets out of the psycho's place in the first place). As long as she parks in a location where the client doesn't know which car it is, she needn't worry about harm being done to it... although at that point, harm done to her car is probably the least of her concerns.

Anyways, it's better to have a driver that doubles as security... or better yet, do outcalls at a place like a hotel at the clients expense.
 

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sexygirl said:
Keep in mind dave those agency girls in Victoria (where i started) are only making $70-90/hour. They see as many guys as they can; sometimes upwards of 10 men in a 12 hour shift.
sexygirl said:
Read my posts again howie. I said $70-90/hour not $160.
Most girls are lucky to see one guy in a 12 hour shift, often none and a lot of them are single moms. So after the baby sitter and the driver to get home, she actually lost money going to work.
So which is it then? 10 men or one man in a 12 hour shift?
 

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I usually negotiate, I go by the girls looks and attitude and can tell what price they should charge.
Wow! What an incredible talent you have. You can tell what price an SP "should charge". Does this apply to other areas of your life too? Can you walk into a lawyer's office and magically know what he or she "should charge"? How about a doctor? When you get your taxes done, do you tell the accountant "by the way, this is what you should charge"? I sure wish I'd been born with that particular gene. :D
 

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sexygirl said:
Gee not the brightest bulb on the tree are we?
No, apparently we're not. :rolleyes: First you said these ladies see upwards of 10 men in a 12 hour shift. Two posts later you're claiming that they often only see one man in a 12 hour shift. Which is it?
 

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JackFrost said:
At an AMP, I will always negotiate the price

However, at a micro..I don't usually negotiate..its usually a flat rate
Whether flat or not, I don't see what breast size has to do with negotiations. :rolleyes: :p
 
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