Discrimination against East Indian Men?

[lenny]

theres a difference between dark skin and tan skin. dark skin for me is that of an african not brown. there are many shades of brown, most indian are if anything caramel. even tan skin has many shades.

In Bangkok Thai ladies cum in many shades of darkened skin, that is, not
white skin, the same as in India, but i never saw one Asian woman there
who had extremely black skin like some Africans do. Most Thai men like
their ladies to be white, or if tanned as light a tan as possible. The
ladies put on lotions to lighten their body colour, and stay out of the
sun or cover themselves well if in so they are not darkened. Some walk
in the sun with umbrellas over head, even the men.

Tan skin is like a caucasian person who gets their skin exposed at the
beach or visits a tanning salon. Of course there are varying shades of
tanned and white skin, from the snow white being the whitest. Most
Thai ladies look like they have had a tan at the beach, by their natural
birth colour. But they would prefer the caucasion look, while many
caucasians want the tanned skin of the Thai.

 

[lenny]

lol....here's a thread that has got a little off the beaten track. I don't think people tan to look like EI's. That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read on here............Congrats Lenny!!

Glad you enjoyed that!

It seems the remark you are refering to was:

"But over here everyone is going to the beach and tanning salons
to look like the Thai and EI."

Of course Canuck & USA caucasians who are not satisfied with their
white skin and would like a tanned skin go to the beach & tanning
salons. There they can get a tanned skin colour like the Thais & EIs.
Do you dispute this?

1682

 

[lenny]

Yes I do dipute it....lol You think I see an EI or Thais and say " I need to get a tan to look like that guy?" Give your head a shake.

Read it again. That's not what i said:

Of course Canuck & USA caucasians who are not satisfied with their
white skin and would like a tanned skin go to the beach & tanning
salons. There they can get a tanned skin colour like the Thais & EIs.
Do you dispute this?

 

[lenny]

the darker indian girls dont want to be pale like chinese but more lighter like light skinned/caramel tan indians.

I think many darker Thai ladies may feel the same; they want the lighter
tanned skin of their Thai sisters. Others would be happy with white skin
like many Japaneese women have. BTW, while in BKK i found many Thai
women staring at my hairy white legs. It was quite funny. But you have
to understand that they virtually worship this colour. They also like the
bigger nose of the "farang".

Thai girls may have a number of different appearances. Some look like
they are from China, Japan, or Vietnam. Some have the slanty eye.
Others don't & to me resemble Philipine or EI people. Some of the
dress and music is exactly the same as in India.

 

[erotic_exotica]

immigrant indians or punjabis may have problems but the canadian born indo cdn. punjabi men (who make up large proportion of south asians in canada) are stereotypically handsome, well built, come from respectful well-off families.

you cannot judge ei in the pooning industry becuz so little percentage of them are in engaged in this while the rest of the trendy and handsome ei are not pooning but dating/playing around/getting married.

most young ei dont even know about sp business and would not give a damn becuz they have their own beautiful light skinned punjabi women kiran khunkhun type of girls to be with for free.

most of the ei that sps have encountered were the down-trodden, ugly, who cant find a hot ei women.

peter gill was able to work his charm with gillian guess.

I beg to differ on these points. I completely disagree. I said it before in this thread and I'll say it again......EI/Arabian men (Canadian’s and immigrants) make up %80 of my total income in this industry. I see at least one a day. So clearly they are aware of the sp business. It so happens that I even see some (most) that are young, absolutely gorgeous indo/Arabian Canadians. My take on it is different.....I think that maybe EI/Arabian men (like any other man) wants something different than they know they can have, that's way they come see me. I think that maybe your friends don't let you in on it (seeing sp's) because your a tad judgemental/superior about EI men and their connection with the biz. May I suggest you take your rose coloured glasses off because EI males are not the exception here. A large percentage of them DO see sp's. They are just hiding it from you.

I'd also like to add that I love seeing EI/Arabian men. I find them to be fun, open-minded, and non-judgemental (for the most part) and easy to get along with. Not only do they make up a HUGE part of my income but I almost prefer seeing them over anyone else.

 

[erotic_exotica]

Your 80% figure might be related to the fact you work in Surrey. I would suggest someone working in Langley or Vancouver would have a much different %.

Hubba good point lol. But I actually work out of New west. I do however, have a lot of my EI clients travel from surrey and as far out as Abbotsford to see me. Sometimes I think it's because I have a ethnic background of Caribbean. I don't know what it is, but what ever it is EI/Arabian men are drawn to me to the tune of my biggest cliental base. Or maybe it's because I don't care what colour anyone is just as long as you money's green....... and red or even brown.

 

[indian_boner]

I beg to differ on these points. I completely disagree. I said it before in this thread and I'll say it again......EI/Arabian men (Canadian’s and immigrants) make up %80 of my total income in this industry. I see at least one a day. So clearly they are aware of the sp business. It so happens that I even see some (most) that are young, absolutely gorgeous indo/Arabian Canadians. My take on it is different.....I think that maybe EI/Arabian men (like any other man) wants something different than they know they can have, that's way they come see me. I think that maybe your friends don't let you in on it (seeing sp's) because your a tad judgemental/superior about EI men and their connection with the biz. May I suggest you take your rose coloured glasses off because EI males are not the exception here. A large percentage of them DO see sp's. They are just hiding it from you.

I'd also like to add that I love seeing EI/Arabian men. I find them to be fun, open-minded, and non-judgemental (for the most part) and easy to get along with. Not only do they make up a HUGE part of my income but I almost prefer seeing them over anyone else.

the term east indian is so general , we gotta be specific cuz do many ppl care about whos pakistani, afghani, punjabi. ei comprise of many ethnic groups, many diff religions and culture. if were taking about ei in bc or toronto then we use the term punjabi.

eventhough we claim to see south asian/middle eastern once a day, thats to general of definition to linger upon. how many ei are on perb? maybe 3 or 4. how many ei guys contributed to this topic discussion? two or three.

ive been around and know for a fact that ei men probably see escorts but in comparison to their population, its disproportionally and small.

how can ppl who know so very little about ei community claim to talk so much about.

 

[indian_boner]

im only 25 and grow up in south east van in the 90s so i know my info. ive never come across ei during my pooning adventures esp in the asian/chinese industry. sure ei pooners might be concentrated in one section like NW but i doubt they make a segment out in downtown or vancouver.

how many ei even heard of perb? not many.
im not saying ei men are not in the pooning industry, sure there after the king george sp, but ratio is very small compared to their gender's population size.

my argument was not based on size,but about the fact that it is not right to generalize ei or correlate facts upon them since their are many variables that have to looked.

we cant stereotype asian or chinese pooners, we gotta be specific and know the demographic properlly before go off on real life instances.

thats why when it comes to ethnicities, we gotta be careful like sociologists to describe them. look how ordinary ppl stereotyped african americans and how the stigma continues.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

I know many EI girls that won't see EI men.
Then again some EI men will only see Caucasian girls.
Many Chinese girls won't go near Gwailo...
Some Asian men will only see Caucasian men...
Years ago, I opted never to see another Caucasian girl, and I'm Caucasian...

So, what is left to prove?

 

[erotic_exotica]

First off I'd like to thank you for your response.

im only 25 and grow up in south east van in the 90s so i know my info. ive never come across ei during my pooning adventures esp in the asian/chinese industry.

And thats the beauty of being discreet.

sure ei pooners might be concentrated in one section like NW but i doubt they make a segment out in downtown or vancouver.

And they do that's where I started out.

how many ei even heard of perb? not many.

how many ei are on perb? maybe 3 or 4. how many ei guys contributed to this topic discussion? two or three.

I'd just like you to take note that I do not advertise here. Where do you suggest my HUGE EI cliental comes from? What I'm saying is that I'm aware that not many participate on the boards or that there are even aware that they exist. What I am saying is that there is Newspaper (s) in which we also advertise in as well as other online sites such as Local Escorts that we advertise in. Perb is not the only advertising venue. I think if you ask any sp here she will tell you that not all her clients come from Perb. Not everyone is aware of Perb. And I'd also like to include that, just like there are not many men (of all races) whom are aware of Perb there's just as many sp's that are not aware of Perb. So again this does not make EI men the 'Special' race just because you don't see them on Perb
or run into them at your fav. sp's spot. In this industry the key word here is 'discretion'.

we cant stereotype asian or chinese pooners, we gotta be specific and know the demographic properlly before go off on real life instances.

thats why when it comes to ethnicities, we gotta be careful like sociologists to describe them. look how ordinary ppl stereotyped african americans and how the stigma continues.

the term east indian is so general , we gotta be specific cuz do many ppl care about whos pakistani, afghani, punjabi. ei comprise of many ethnic groups, many diff religions and culture. if were taking about ei in bc or toronto then we use the term punjabi.

eventhough we claim to see south asian/middle eastern once a day, thats to general of definition to linger upon. .

Thanks for educating me on all the different ethnic groups within a general race. Did I mention that I was Black? What type of 'Black' would you think that I am? Their are many within my general race.

I believe your missing the point here. You stated in an earlier post….oh here it is:

"most young ei dont even know about sp business and would not give a damn becuz they have their own beautiful light skinned punjabi women kiran khunkhun type of girls to be with for free."

And I challenged that statement. It's simply not true. I know better then you, my cliental base and I'm telling you that HUGE number of EI men make up my overall income. And I'm sure they come from all ethnic backgrounds. It's just not as small of a % as you think it is.

how can ppl who know so very little about ei community claim to talk so much about.

I never suggested that I know about the community or religion nor do I care. People are people to me. What I am suggestion is that your wrong, wrong, wrong about EI men and their conncetion to the sp biz. Do you think there would be an entire Thread if it didn't exist or wasn't factual?

Don’t you think your being a little arrogant about it? EI men are just that…Men. They have needs and fantasies just like any other man that poons. I repeat they are NOT the exceptions cause they come from well off families or they are stereotypically beautiful or that they can get it for free. Men poon for many different reasons such as: they don’t want strings attached, they are married but not sexually satisfied, they have a fantasy they’d like to full fill ect. EI men are the same.

 

[JiveAssSlippers]

I asked whether it was an issue. Do SPs regularly reject e indian clients? Just wondering how often that happens and why?

Yes the Singn incident has piqued my interest.

I don't think that SP'S discriminate against East Indian men. I think that they take everyone on a case per case basis. I've been with a few east indian women and what I found was that one of them had a very strong curry smell. She didn't have bad hygiene but she did have a strong pungent odor. Now people have a right to eat whatever they like but they can't expect others to accept them intimately. Perhaps the strong odor due to eating certain foods is the problem and not the ethnicity. I'm sure these same women would also object to caucasian men who have bad hygiene. Just a thought.

 

[newinvancity]

late response

I know much has been said about this, but I wanted to add my two cents.

As an EI male, I'd prefer an SP to tell me up front that she isn't interested in seeing me. For what ever reason.

When I visit an SP, a part of it is to be with a beautiful woman. Not just anyone, but someone I choose. Why wouldn't the service provider have the same choice?

Thats fine with me. Maybe she has a valid reason not to want to see certain types of people, and that is fine. But lets be honest, to judge a whole race or to say you don't want to deal with a whole race based on your experience with one or a few individuals is a form of discrimination or stereotyping based on race. ie racism.

I'm not saying I'm offended by it, but lets call it what it is because we all know that not all EI men stink and have poor hygiene. Just like all Caucasians men aren't pedophiles.

So if you don't wish to see EI men, thats fine, just say it upfront because I'm sure there are many SP's who would love to continue seeing them.

In closing this thread was awesome, as it showed me maybe I should stay away from a few SP's whom I was thinking of seeing.

 

[Kittie]

right thats why you brag about dating sps. Try Dating REAL WOMEN for a change.

Um....I wasn't aware we were no longer "real women".


Wow, thanks.

 

[Kittie]

There are SP's who do not feel comfortable seeing clients of certain ethnicities for various reasons. Bad experiences are often the case. In this profession I think that if an sp decides to refuse service due to that, it is more than acceptable. Some girls won't see young guys or older guys for the same reason. Rarely is it because a race is "too stinky" or "too hairy" etc etc. I have turned away clients that were too pushy, rude or not well taken care of (smelly and dirty to the point that many a shower wouldn't fix it.), but they have all been of varying races. Perhaps if they all were all of the same race or age profile etc I may not feel comfortable seeing that race etc. However that was not the case for me.

Sometimes a girl is dating a black man and wont see others for fear of it being a friend or relative of her man etc.

There are soo many reasons a sp decides what she does, and at the end of the day it is her right.

Wouldn't you rather stay with a woman who wasn't worried scared or grossed out to be with you?

 

[sidara]

North American's are more sexually liberated than some other countries. I have ( heresay) that fella's from countries, where tradition and culture forbid sex and promescuity before marriage, "think that North American girls are easy." We are more liberal on alot of issue's(woman cannot drink in some countries) Here you can sometimes see them drunk and naked on the street lol So are there differences in how we view eachother....probably. Does your mileage vary depending on your race? It depends on the individual SP. Some custumers are stingy...its just how it is. Are all the stingy customer's East Indian? ....No There are stereotype's for sure. But on a whole other topic ,that I won't delve in to, It would make sense, that people deprived of sufficient finances, food, shelter, or any other basic need, that they might hold onto there cash a little tighter. And the premise for that occuring could be for various reasons and happen to all different kinds of people, from all over the world. to answer your question....I dunno.... In the end, It is up tp the individual's, I think. Whew that was a mouthful Hope it made sense.

 

[sidara]

North American's are more sexually liberated than women from some other countries. I have heard( all heresay of course) that fella's from countries, where tradition, spiritual, and cultural belief's may forbid sex and promescuity before marriage, "think that North American girls are easy." We are more liberal on alot of issue's(woman cannot drink in some countries) Here you can sometimes see them drunk and naked on the street lol So are there differences in how we view eachother....probably. Does your mileage vary depending on your race? It depends on the individual SP. Some custumers are stingy...its just how it is. Are all the stingy customer's East Indian? ....No There are stereotype's for sure. But on a whole other topic ,that I won't delve in to, It would make sense, that people deprived of sufficient finances, food, shelter, or any other basic need, that they might hold onto there cash a little tighter. And the premise for that occuring could be for various reasons and happen to all different kinds of people, from all over the world. to answer your question....I dunno.... In the end, It is up tp the individual's, I think. Whew that was a mouthful Hope it made sense.

 

[sidara]

Sorry...the second one is probably the edited version...lol

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

Oh I'm sure I'll regret weighing in on this issue but I'd like to point out a couple of things.....

1. There is (or should be) a difference between "racism" and I guess what could be termed "culturalism." Racism being an aversion to someone based on the colour of their skin or physical make-up, which cannot be changed. What I mean by "culturalism," is an aversion to certain behaviours or other things that to some degree are changeable (the music people listen to, the scent of the food they eat, the sound of their language, cultural beliefs, religion, norm of behaviour & how people relate to each other). There is, in my opinion, a distinct difference between the two. That is not to say that "culturalism" is more excusable than "racism" but at the very least it can be understood in some kind of logical way as things the individual/s does/do that irritate a person, rather than just a blanket hatred based on things people cannot change.

2. There are cultural differences in how genders relate to each other. This is where the nature of a person really shows - a good person will treat everyone well regardless of social conditioning. A person who is new to a country and unaware of the new social protocols they are expected to know may slip-up, but will probably be receptive to guidance. I have to say, I don't think I'd be likely to book with a man from Afghanistan who made his admiration for the Taliban known, and that doesn't mean I won't see middle eastern or Asian men, just not men who actively cling to cultures of misogyny (though how one would know.... no idea).

3. Some foods have scents that linger. I love garlic. Love it. But I know if I eat it, I'll end up smelling like it the next day, so I don't eat it when I'm going to be working. Curry has the same quality. All people who love heavily spiced foods should be mindful of these qualities before chowing down and expecting GFE within the next 24 hours. Oddly the majority of East Indian men that I have seen haven't had an overpowering scent of curry (perhaps they don't excrete the scent as much as other) and the only person I've turned down for reeking of curry was a skinny white English dude.... oh he was foul and I just couldn't.

I really don't care where someone is from as long as they are kind and clean. If I have my doubts about a new potential client, I'll ask them questions to get a better feel for them, if I don't like the answers, I don't book with them.

And on a lighter note & just to make people smile.... Canada's own....Russell Peters:

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[C-Rations]

my hookers comment was towards ashley M and her pack of dumbasses

No man you dont see them as real women because if you did you wouldnt have treated poor gabby the way you did.

I believe braveheart made a good point on this 1. I dont see or even think of them as hookers, but if they act like better than the regular womens (regular meaning not an sp).. I would look down on them. If they r sweet or do a good job or like what they r doing, just either 1 of that category.., I would treat them like a queen.

 

[C-Rations]

My EI clients are awesome. I never pre-judge any clients based on race.

If someone seems disrespectful on the phone they won't get an appointment. Age, race and looks is never an issue.

xoxo
Nina Leone
ninaleone.com

This what I'm talking about. A true lady like Nina deserve to get the best of the best.
Treat this gem very very very well guys!!!.