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CalgaryJenn

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....your gonna con me, or anyone else who you expect to be nice to you.

This thread of expression comes from deep within me as I hate to see the homeless for whatever reason their situation has come to meet with them. I for one work hard for my earnings whether it is selling my "artwork" or doing projects for the graphics company that hubby and I own, operate and run.

Yesterday I was headed to a call to sell some art downtown and it was around 2:30-3AM, and this man, scruffy looking and all comes to me before entering to where I was headed and tells me he needs change as he needed to be towed, and his car broke down. He tells me he needs to catch a bus to Couchhill, well dude, 1. There are NO buses at this hour I say, pissed that he lied blantantly to my face, 2. I asked if I could have my driver take him to his car and get him "anything" before taking him to Couchhill, he stammers and comes up with another lie. By now, I am so pissed as I am trying to help, with the walls of guardness standing tall and knowing I am running late for my "meeting" even though I am right there, just floors away. I looked right at him and said " Ya know dude had you just been totally honest and said I "NEED" and I am "asking" you for a hand out without lying, I would have helped your ass out, but now, you have pissed me off, lied to me twice and made me late, where I could have possibly lost money, so your shit outta luck with me Padre.
Ya know I try to be fair and honest for the most part in life without ripping people off, pissing them off and lying to them, ya know, how I would like to be treated but why is different for the other part of society to think it isn't?
I was just at the Road King the other day getting coffee, when I watched someone walk up to my S/O and my S/O shook his head no. Afterwards, my hubby got into the truck and asked if he was being asked for money, his response was yes. After a few minutes of being there, we were getting ready to pull away and then we see the same guy pull up to the pump and I rolled down my window and we offered him the couple $$'s he had asked us for as we saw he did actually have a car that needed gas, and he declined as he had found enough money for enough gas to get him home, so we gave it to him anyway. At least he was honest. I have no problem every now and then, offering help to somebody if they need it, but when they play on sympathy and bullshit, it just pisses me off. It makes it hard to figure out who really needs the help and who is scamming.
 

kehoe

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it is tough isn't it? You don't want to find out that you've been scammed by some grifter. I fell for it a couple of times in the past, handing over money while thinking it's going towards bus fare or a sandwich when it's really for a cheap bottle. Or driving along and seeing someone on the side of the road with a flat tire or some form of car trouble and you just drive by, not wanting to get involved. We're so conditioned to be careful now that we just stay focused on our own needs and don't worry about anyone else's. It's hard to find fault because you could get scammed, robbed or worse. It's too bad really but it's the way it is now. You can always say no and comfort yourself with the fact that you'll never be taken but you might also be saying no to someone who needs a little helping hand or just wants to be friends.
 

Very Veronica

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buddy can you spare $100 000

http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200612/20061201/slide_20061201_284_107.jhtml

Interesting interview on Oprah today (slow day at the duo headquarters, lol)..a documentary filmmaker does a social experiement on what happens when a homeless man (Ted) is given $100 000.

Ted was also given a medical test to make sure he didn't have mental issues & was given financial, housing & job resources.

He's soon homeless again & in debt, said he had a problem with authority figures, couldn't deal with all the bills. Also was quick to blame society altho Oprah pointed out it was society who gave him the $. The impression i got was the guy simply did believe in himself. He seemed resolved that his place in life was in a cardboard box. Sad.
 
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http://www.oprah.com/tows/slide/200612/20061201/slide_20061201_284_107.jhtml

Interesting interview on Oprah today (slow day at the duo headquarters, lol)..a documentary filmmaker does a social experiement on what happens when a homeless man (Ted) is given $100 000.

Ted was also given a medical test to make sure he didn't have mental issues & was given financial, housing & job resources.

He's soon homeless again & in debt, said he had a problem with authority figures, couldn't deal with all the bills. Also was quick to blame society altho Oprah pointed out it was society who gave him the $. The impression i got was the guy simply did believe in himself. He seemed resolved that his place in life was in a cardboard box. Sad.
This is the advice of the Financial adviser on the last page. Note there are 2 other people in the series. The first will probably recover because she built wealth before getting married and now knows that making others feel good isn't the route. The second will manage to return to being poor because they are all about feeling good for the moment. The one VV linked is poor and always will be poor because tomorrow is as far as he looks.

While you're unlikely to ever see a windfall on the magnitude of Nadine, Amy, Ted or Elizabeth's, you probably will get a tax refund or year-end bonus. According to Lynnette Khalfani, financial expert and author of The Money Coach's Guide to Your First Million, rather than simply using this money to treat yourself, you should instead use it to pay off your debts.

Lynnette says that many people think they "deserve" to treat themselves. "And of course you deserve it," Lynnette says. "But you also deserve to keep it in the family and to have financial stability. You don't want to have to lament over your losses and really feel bad about the fact that you blew the money."

If you should be so lucky as to get a windfall of $50,000 or more, Lynnette says there are five things you should do to make sure you keep it.

* Get financial help. A trusted advisor can talk to you about long-term plans and help you set a budget.
* Make sure you have a system in place for dealing with requests for money. This can be someone like an accountant, who can handle the requests so you don't have to feel emotionally responsible saying no.
* Make sure you have a structured way of giving—like to charities or to your church—so no one can make you feel guilty for not giving to them individually.
* Plan before you invest. Don't make any big moves without a long-term strategy.
* Give yourself time. Though you may want to, don't make rash moves right after getting your money.


The basic rules:
*Own your Home
*After owning your home, guarantee continued adequate income through ultra safe investments, annuities and rental property.
*Always invest 25% of your income in yourself. Guarantee a good retirement.
*Make your giving count by giving to charities that actually deliver to their stated objective.
*Never give to individuals. They will just keep coming back and will hate you when you can no longer satisfy their wants. If you are going to be hated, at least don't make it so that heart is broken because you thought you were doing good.
*Never invest money you need to live and never invest more than 25% of your net worth. (I'm not talking ultra safe here, I'm talking things that may or may not pay off)
*Always find your own investments. People that put you on to an investment always have an angle.
 

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Once is enough

The first time a guy pulled the trick on me, I fell for it. He looked clean and decent, with sport jacket, and very polite. He said that he put all his money in the parking meter, now had run out of time and his car was towed away, now he needed some bus fare as he had no money left. So I thought, this could've happened to me to some day, gave him over $2 I had in my pocket.

Over the next several months, I saw him pulled the same trick to other people (myself included, obviously he has shorter memory than I am). Well, at least I still remember his face so I can ignore him now.

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