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I also want add that it sounded a bit like the catholic original sin game with the blame aspect. Man are not Satan. Don't try to change them, just like any woman wouldn't appreciate man saying women should change because it's their fault. Learn differences and how to appreciate them. Stay away from bad seeds on both sides.
 
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women's vs mans rights... not my experience, but I've heard many stories of man working for the family and when the wife things she wants it out, she takes so much man loose houses, cars, and visiting rights. Courts and law are very much in womans favors.

I said nothing that would try to diminish your frustration. At all. In fact, i tried to help it. You might not see it having your mind focused and opinionated. Im not always right, im just a man. I just suggested nothing else from what i am telling myself when overwhelmed one way or another - take a step or two back and look again.
 

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The fuck off attitude you cherish so much does not affect me. Lashing out like that is not constructive, beyond an instant release. And that we all need,including me punching a wall sometimes! Haha but dwelling on it, harming anyone except myself - nope. I just think you assume way too much based on way too little.
 

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The fuck off attitude you cherish so much does not affect me. Lashing out like that is not constructive, beyond an instant release. And that we all need,including me punching a wall sometimes! Haha but dwelling on it, harming anyone except myself - nope. I just think you assume way too much based on way too little.
Back off asshole and just stfu. This is not a post for debate.
 

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Pierre Coeur. Whatever that means. You are just mindlessly patronizing creep. Very shallow minded and too narrowly focused. Your authoritarian sub intelligent tone and text says it all. No space for discussion, including one that would prove my message wrong Mr. Right
Try harder. Bet you make a hollaveluva difference in your life and others more than being a keyboard warrior here.


SP Afcionado handle says it all, original creep. Throw in some humane aspect you hypocrite. Worst kind that deniesdiscussion and mindlessly enforces rules. Like in communism. Fake freedom fighter. Soft balls.
 
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It's unfortunate that you've had to go through this experience, regardless of your profession.

Having said that, an unwillingness to report this to the police perpetuates the issue; regardless of your views on law enforcement they do have a duty to respond to complaints such as this - even from a "hooker" as you've referred to yourself.
The police will probably not even make a file, while telling me this is just a risk of the job. I’ll pass. I think your understanding of what the cops do is a bit skewed, possibly by your personal experience. Police protect a colonialist set of laws, they do not protect people who don’t adhere to those laws; myself included.
 

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Not sure what that hashtag implirs, but id guess a vike venom hate. Its just fine with me, despite the obvious u solocited unfounded unhinged hate you have. And all that included, it missing the point except reinforcing my point. What the fuck are you trying to accomplish spewing some random dispute with random shit that happens to everybody,? You fuckong special as a service provider,? I got suckered punched by a random asshole, broke my tooth, had to pay for it myself not making a fucking 400 bucks an hour. So, spare me the grief.
Dude, what is with the "poor me" shit? Charlee was threatened by a creep. That makes her a victim of violence. She shared it with us as a good example of why screening is important and perhaps even to vent which is perfectly ok. She wasn't inviting a debate about men's or women's rights or fears and this argument that "women can do it too, holds no fucking water whatsoever. Tell me something my friend, has a woman ever threatened you and made you genuinely afraid? I'm gonna guess never. Women live this daily, even a crowd of idiots hanging about that you wouldn't give a second thought to make women anxious. Men are NOT victims here. Full stop. Men need to stop doing this shit. Full stop.
 

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It will likely happen again in whatever form. There are quite a few things you can try to reduce your exposure and increase the caller's exposure.

If you have your own website, it is very likely the fellow has viewed it and his IP is recorded in the log files.

You can do something like play a noise and pretend like you were distracted and didn't hear it and get him to repeat it so it gets recorded.

Also, instead of answering get a "phone girl", (not a real employee), like use translink-like pre-recorded sounds you can play on demand and have a girl in a british or chinese accent respond. The first bit of information you want is to get a textable number and just say information responses are texted, queries and prices are not sent by voice.

What you can do is setup an auto-recorder to get the voice then post that recording and broadcast it to other providers (as well as the caller-ID number). There should be a bad-date web service that gets updated in real time and anyone subscribed gets instant notifications.

Set up a fake website that has IP logging. This means when visitors come, they look at naked pictures and the site logs the visitor's IP number. This IP can be looked up to get a physical location and the service provider. Paydirt is a home address vs. a cell phone.

Set up some phone app numbers and later on in the week, text that number and send something like price quotes for services and apologize for the late response. (Pretend to have one phone number advertised but you respond with another), and include the website address that does IP logging. It may be the caller is using a spoof caller ID app or a disposable phone app, this is one of the things you want to find out.

Next, voice call the number at different times from different app numbers (or user a caller-ID spoof app) over the course of a week and see if you get an answer. Use a voice-changer app and record the conversation. There are lots of websites that have joke calling services that pretend to be a restaurant with a recorded voice and they record the conversation.

For the future what you can do is change your answering style, keep the caller online, pretend to answer the door or another phone and give out a number that caller can write down and check out. During the call, from another text app send a message that looks like a junk-mail with a link to the IP logging website. (You could also do a robo-call to see if the number is busy, has a voicemail etc.)

The main theme here is to gather as much information as possible so that you have a bit more to work with if issues arise. The next step would be to broadcast the event to others as a warning.
 

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That is absolutely horrifying to hear Charlee. Really sorry that you had to go thru something like this and I hope you stay safe and hope that this disgusting, cowardly excuse of a human gets what he deserves in the end :mad:

Creeps like this are exactly who give men a bad name and I am not surprised at all whenever women are wary of men as a result. We simply cannot understand what it's like to experience something like this and it's why we should listen and try to learn something whenever women share their experiences with us.
 

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This is an interesting thread because it speaks to the difference between men and women and directly toward the latent sexism men have. Charlee related a violent incident in her life and most guys here put on their "there there dear..you must do this..hat" Which of course caused her to lash out because she wasn't asking for advice especially about the cops. This is latent sexism. The correct response was the empathetic and supportive response Charlee got from her gf Lady Vanessa.
I was talking to a friend of mine, who travels the province as a salesperson, about this incident and to help guys understand this better, this is what she had to say:
Man: Had dinner with client. They talk about sports, ATV'ing, make lewd comments about the waitress and hostess, bitch about their wives, make inappropriate sexually subtle comments to the waitress and hostess as they get a little more drunk.
Man goes back to motel room, this is a man camp town and there's some yahoos drinking outside another room, man goes to his own room hoping these assholes won't go too late, takes a shower, jerks off to some internet porn, calls the wife, then goes to sleep.
Woman: Has dinner with client, tries to ignore client leering at waitresses ass, tries to ignore inappropriate comments about her appearance and creepy suggestive comments from a married man twice her age, to keep the conversation on business. Comes back home to motel room, yahoos are leering at her making her nervous and she hears some comments. They see her go to her room..shit they know where I am...there's a shitty little wooden door between her and the yahoos, she locks the door, pulls the desk across it to help barricade it, can't sleep a fucking wink because she's frightened that every noise is a drunken rapist murderer trying to break in. At breakfast she endures the same assholes leering at her while she's trying to enjoy some coffee and toast.
So we decided to try to put this in to perspective gentlemen. A 200 lb pit bull that you've never seen before comes to your room. This is a smart pitbull, it can read your phone, steal your identity, rob you or out you on social media to family, friends , coworkers. You have no idea if it will bite your hand off or rip off your face, or roll over and be a big playful suck. You also don't know if the big playful suck will suddenly turn vicious without warning. So how do you feel about this? Afraid? cautious? Need more information? Would you want to make some inquiries from others about the past behaviour of this pit bull? Would you perhaps want to spend a little more time getting to know this pit bull so you know what you're dealing with?
You see guys, women live with this everyday while most men don't give it a second thought. This is real and not too difficult to understand if you really try and you should not be too surprised if she asks for screening information.... and for Chrissakes when a woman you know falls victim to this stop being Mr Fix up, nobody want's unsolicited advice and most women generally don't respond well to it, just be empathetic and supportive, that's being a real man.
 
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